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johnnygibbon 06-01-2013 07:00 PM

bmrcc goshen 2013 events and suggestions
 
so with a succesful outdoor meeting and hopefully a good season to come
whats happening at goshen this year , we still need to mod the track and paint things , but also how about some special events like,

team event , mixed abillityndrivers in teams points system highest overall wins , may cause some arguments but would be iteresting

endurance event , 6 drivers per team 10 mins each or 4 with big batteries:lol:
500 laps at about 30 s a lap like todays track ish we would race for just over 4 hours first team transponder to clock 500 laps wins
"the goshen 500"

endurace event 2 , most laps in 5 hours of racing wins. simaler teams ect#

oval racing , basically we race in a massive oval stock car style but use the corner features an maybe the tabletop in it so its off road oval racing

figure of 8 , same as above but with x over jump in the middle. wild :woot:

plenty of members who are having fun racing at bury nowadays and today proves it , some events like these would be differant to what we normally do and might even help some get better skills with having more track time or car set up advice in a team

any more ideas or suggestions on how we can have an enjoyable year and something differant at goshen , stick em on a post lets see whos keen

Gavin Collingwood 06-01-2013 07:03 PM

Aww yeah! We used to race teams non stop racing all night with pit changes at trax raceway years ago it was ace!! The only problem was having fair teams....

johnnygibbon 06-01-2013 07:43 PM

poll added and the option of a time trial event
it works well for the isle of man ...............

silverfox 06-01-2013 08:29 PM

Great racing today for early Jan
Enjoyed the early tour of Oldham!
Think the endurance/team event is a great idea-need a bit of thought to come up with a workable format but can.t be to difficult

Gavin Collingwood 06-01-2013 08:41 PM

We used to share a transponder and have to change over and work as a team the better thing these days is you could run for 20 mins each potentially given the run time of lipo!!

shanks 06-01-2013 08:43 PM

Not that I even race anymore but my vote would be for an oval race - I like em because they are easier yet still racing

Gavin Collingwood 06-01-2013 08:53 PM

Johnny.... If you wanna race oval go and get a mardave....that sounds poo

johnnygibbon 06-01-2013 09:47 PM

giant off road oval dude , not flat , i am no mardave racer , but fast rapid laps with loads of other cars would be wild , its not all about fast laps and set ups , sometimes its just fun doing something differant with the cars for fun.
the endurance race seems popular to

Gavin Collingwood 06-01-2013 10:00 PM

We used to do team endurance races they were ace, sharing a transponder and working as a team was brilliant

Maddy 07-01-2013 07:47 PM

Endurance race but pick names (out of the hat) that way 1 team isn't the fastest having the better drivers and it will give new comers a chance to get to know other racers better.

Si Coe 07-01-2013 08:23 PM

The event I'd love to hold is a team endurance build and race.

At the start of the meeting the teams get an unassembled Madrat kit and say 6 hours to build it and do as many laps as possible - no spares except whats in the box. Rushing the build gets you on the track faster, but you risk it all dieing on you!

johnnygibbon 07-01-2013 08:42 PM

Kit Madrat
Endurance
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha


2 hours building ten mins racing
Five hours fifty min cursing ansmann

Maybe one car per team or one class per team
So 2wd and 4 wd endurance is a different class but on track at sane time
Or run what ya brung 10 th scale only

Darren Wales 07-01-2013 09:08 PM

mmm not keen on the build kit first idea Si, but liking this poll Johnny.

My votes go to both the team and endurance ideas.
As far as picking teams, it would need to be on the already known driver standard and not just mates pooling together, for it to work effectively. So, it would need all entrants to accept the decisions made when teams are formed.

But love the ideas, nice work Johnny.

Will see you all soon.

Darren

Gavin Collingwood 07-01-2013 10:37 PM

Kit build si.....? We like racing not building?! And the way we used to do the team endurance was basically have four or five drivers per team with each one being different ability say, woody would be your best driver then a driver from lower down the A then the b and so on. So every team would have a beginner and a better driver and people of gradual ability in between.
Pulling names out of a hat wouldn't work as you could end up with very unfair teams

Howler 07-01-2013 11:08 PM

We need a Tamiya Lunchbox race!

Otherwise the team endurance race sounds good.

johnnygibbon 08-01-2013 05:32 PM

even with teams of mates an endurance event is not quite like racing as long as most drivers are ok they can be competative
but maybe a seperate class for f1 f2 drivers if they eneter full pro teams
maybe seperate classes for teams to enter ,but all on track at the same time , kiegthly had good events with mixed teams and it was competative and fun , but reliabillity batteries and breakages all play a part ,
good enjoyable day with the cars and mates to

4cells 08-01-2013 05:40 PM

2 man teams
 
how about 2 man teams with 1 car.
one on steering and the other on throttle

losichris 08-01-2013 07:58 PM

problem with team events... whos cars gonna get trashed?!?


Would be good if the teams were picked the week before,2 juniors 2 7/8 level 2 9/10 and so on. Then team members put £10 in the hat, which covers racing and the cheapest rtr car. The car gets bought from our brilliant local shop.
So every team has the same car/electrics etc. All we have to do is keep charging our own batteries, as one comes off the other goes on.
Starting time 12-4 constant racing.
The winners get the donated cars from each team, trashed or not trashed.

Si Coe 08-01-2013 10:31 PM

The way we were proposing doing it is that each driver runs their own car, so nobodys gets particularly thrashed.
The team gets a club handout transponder that gets swapped between cars rather than keeping one car going.

Now to some extent that takes the 'endurance' bit out but working out changeover tactics is important as is deciding how long each driver will run for.

There is nothing to stop teams running one car only, but no need either.

Done properly I don't really car about balancing teams because its not really about the winning - this sort of event is supposed to be a laugh.

How about giving each team a joker card they can ay at any time - Stuff like knock 10 laps off one opposition team, or nominate a team that is not allowed to be marshalled for 3 minutes etc just to randomise things......

Gavin Collingwood 08-01-2013 10:43 PM

You misunderstand Chris, you use your own cars. You just share the same transponder

Howler 08-01-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 730679)
...or nominate a team that is not allowed to be marshalled for 3 minutes etc just to randomise things......

So who does marshal?

Si Coe 08-01-2013 11:41 PM

Each team sends out a driver not currently driving to marshal.
There are 2 ways of doing that.

1) Each team only marshals their own car. If nobody turns up only that team suffers.

2) Each team covers a marshal point. Here it is important that when drivers switch over, replacement marshals arrive before the old one leaves. Laps are docked for teams not covering their marshal point.

Either way marshalling is really important and a team of good drivers who don't turn out to marshal can soon find themselves losing places.

Howler 09-01-2013 12:03 AM

Option 2, otherwise you'll have people running across the track everywhere!

budfish 09-01-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 730688)
You misunderstand Chris, you use your own cars. You just share the same transponder

WRONG!!! The point of a endurance event is to push the car to the limits not so much the driver.
As most of you know team buds balls came 3rd over all and 2nd in class in yorks endurance event.
It's great fun each driver on the team donates a bit of tackle to the team ie motor
The biggest expense was tyres

budfish 09-01-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howler (Post 730707)
So who does marshal?

One Marshall per team on the track at any one time

tisher 09-01-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 730753)
WRONG!!! The point of a endurance event is to push the car to the limits not so much the driver.
As most of you know team buds balls came 3rd over all and 2nd in class in yorks endurance event.
It's great fun each driver on the team donates a bit of tackle to the team ie motor
The biggest expense was tyres


And what fun we had :lol:espically the Kebabs

Chris Elworthy 09-01-2013 03:15 PM

In a traditional racing sense how about having a club summer championship for 2wd and 4wd similar to our indoor super 7's series? Maybe call it the summer super 7s series with trophies for top 3 in each class for the series and maybe top 3 in each class per meeting?
It would involve very little more organisation just collating the points after each round into the championship standings. The series I believe would attract a few more drivers to meetings as there is something to race for and would be a good introduction to the format of regionals for the new and less experienced club racers. No special rules will be inforced for the series other than 2wd/4wd and SC shall be split into different heats and race towards the relevant championship.

What do people think? Surely a bit of a series rather than fun class every week would be fun? The majority of clubs run a club championship as in indicator to driver progress.


Chris

losichris 09-01-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Elworthy (Post 730885)
In a traditional racing sense how about having a club summer championship for 2wd and 4wd similar to our indoor super 7's series? Maybe call it the summer super 7s series with trophies for top 3 in each class for the series and maybe top 3 in each class per meeting?
It would involve very little more organisation just collating the points after each round into the championship standings. The series I believe would attract a few more drivers to meetings as there is something to race for and would be a good introduction to the format of regionals for the new and less experienced club racers. No special rules will be inforced for the series other than 2wd/4wd and SC shall be split into different heats and race towards the relevant championship.

What do people think? Surely a bit of a series rather than fun class every week would be fun? The majority of clubs run a club championship as in indicator to driver progress.


Chris

Yes, dont think this has been done since the old track.
Even if it means a slightly higher book in fee, that can go towards trophy prices or whatever stu can donate :p
Think the club definatly needs a championship. Theres lots of regulars, need something to race for....

Gavin Collingwood 09-01-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 730753)
WRONG!!! The point of a endurance event is to push the car to the limits not so much the driver.
As most of you know team buds balls came 3rd over all and 2nd in class in yorks endurance event.
It's great fun each driver on the team donates a bit of tackle to the team ie motor
The biggest expense was tyres

Er....... WRONG! I wasn't talking about "endurance" I was talking about team relays events. 2hrs constant race, 5 man team, first one out drives the first stint, the second driver gets car ready on rostrum with tranny for second driving stint, another member does the transponder change, the driver who has just come off from racing goes out to marshal and two others are free to do maintenance of their car and it rotates in that format. So each driver ability is in order first less talented to last most talented and each stint is say 5 minutes it could even be 10 or more given how long lipo last so you end up racing the same people but in one long continuous race. It used to be brilliant fun and you really had to work a a team with pits ect...

Gavin Collingwood 09-01-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Elworthy (Post 730885)
In a traditional racing sense how about having a club summer championship for 2wd and 4wd similar to our indoor super 7's series? Maybe call it the summer super 7s series with trophies for top 3 in each class for the series and maybe top 3 in each class per meeting?
It would involve very little more organisation just collating the points after each round into the championship standings. The series I believe would attract a few more drivers to meetings as there is something to race for and would be a good introduction to the format of regionals for the new and less experienced club racers. No special rules will be inforced for the series other than 2wd/4wd and SC shall be split into different heats and race towards the relevant championship.

What do people think? Surely a bit of a series rather than fun class every week would be fun? The majority of clubs run a club championship as in indicator to driver progress.


Chris

Totally agree need a more competitive edge

Maddy 09-01-2013 08:04 PM

Me, Steve howler, Chris, Alan,and my lad Dan ran our own little championship last summer and it worked really well and made for loads of banter and came down to the last race of the season,because there was 5 of us first place got 4 points 2nd 3points 3rd 2points 4th 1point,and you get 1 point for racing that day,the idea was no one went away without a point and no one could create a big margin between the 5 of us thats why it stayed very close till the end.
were now running a winter series too,bloody howler is leading at the mo......

Howler 09-01-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddy (Post 731003)
bloody howler is leading at the mo......

4 in a row :thumbsup:

Maddy 09-01-2013 08:55 PM

not for long.........

budfish 09-01-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 729759)
Aww yeah! We used to race teams non stop racing all night with pit changes at trax raceway years ago it was ace!! The only problem was having fair teams....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 729805)
We used to share a transponder and have to change over and work as a team the better thing these days is you could run for 20 mins each potentially given the run time of lipo!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 729841)
We used to do team endurance races they were ace, sharing a transponder and working as a team was brilliant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 730277)
Kit build si.....? We like racing not building?! And the way we used to do the team endurance was basically have four or five drivers per team with each one being different ability say, woody would be your best driver then a driver from lower down the A then the b and so on. So every team would have a beginner and a better driver and people of gradual ability in between.
Pulling names out of a hat wouldn't work as you could end up with very unfair teams

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 730688)
You misunderstand Chris, you use your own cars. You just share the same transponder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 730974)
Er....... WRONG! I wasn't talking about "endurance" I was talking about team relays events. 2hrs constant race, 5 man team, first one out drives the first stint, the second driver gets car ready on rostrum with tranny for second driving stint, another member does the transponder change, the driver who has just come off from racing goes out to marshal and two others are free to do maintenance of their car and it rotates in that format. So each driver ability is in order first less talented to last most talented and each stint is say 5 minutes it could even be 10 or more given how long lipo last so you end up racing the same people but in one long continuous race. It used to be brilliant fun and you really had to work a a team with pits ect...

Er. Funny that as you don't mention in any of your posts all you go on about is team endurance .............fool

Gavin Collingwood 09-01-2013 10:41 PM

I'm sorry? What with the attitude?

Gavin Collingwood 09-01-2013 10:47 PM

Too much time on your hands...

budfish 09-01-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 731095)
I'm sorry? What with the attitude?

No attitude little fella just the truth

johnnygibbon 09-01-2013 10:48 PM

i will ask james w about how they ran theres . we neeed more than 2 hours track time for endurance 4 to 5 hours min
one car is ok but everyone using there own would probly be better so more dads and lads can race
dunno about team relay seems a bit crap to strict , we got all that in racing club days regionals ect, im thinking something fun and differant and an occasional or one off thing not really about traditional racing as we no it
endurance free for all with a big laugh included would be ace though

budfish 09-01-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin Collingwood (Post 731095)
I'm sorry? What with the attitude?

No attitude big fella just the truth

Gavin Collingwood 09-01-2013 10:49 PM

And your name is?


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