NE Regionals splitting???
 

Hi all,

After a long debate with a few other NE regional drivers we started talking about the rising costs in travelling to the various venues, I for one commented on the distance been greater to attend the NE regional series than going to the national championship....

So my question is this:--- With the ever increasing cost of fuel is it time that the three Northern NE clubs (Teesside, Jarrow and South shield/Durham.) spread there wings and go it alone, leaving York, Batley and Bury as a NE southeren division???

Please feel free to coment, good or bad, we're here to listen.....

Jim:p

It wont work, i'll tell you now that bately will probably be the highest attended this year (in 2wd anyway) and if its not included in the series as with other clubs (mainly York) then the northern one wont be well attended enough, i know id go to the york, batley series even though im a teesside local, just race at teesside as non-regional.

Last time I looked on a map Bury wasn't in the NE, surely that adds to the distance

Rick,

Bury was part of the NE regional series last year, and was supposed to be part of it again this year, other than a oversite in dates.....

It's closer to the lower half of the new region than any of the existing clubs......


Jim:p

Depends where your from, According to Google, York --> Jarrow is 80 miles, 1hr 44mins. York --> Bury is 69.5 miles, 1hr 26 mins

It was only included last year to help it out coz it had low attendancies.

I am not surprised this has come about. If this happens then i think that most of the NE lads(Northern) would still travel to the other more Southerly Regionals. I am also hoping that this is not an attempt to stick your fingers up to the Northern racers after what has went on and has been said on this Forum. I think that Regionals would be crippled up North if this happens. Im voting to keep it the same personally as i dont do Nationals but may have to next year if this happens.:thumbdown:

So if you take it out thats 139 miles less to travel ;)

Hi all,

I think you've all got the wrong end of this post....

I am mearly trying to asertain (can't spell) what price you'd go to/travel, and weather you think that the price of fuel will have an adverse affect on the region as a whole... Therefore one concideration is to split the regions, please feel free to add any other ideas....

JIm:p

Wouldn't it need a new region to be formed?

Were would you southerners fit in :lol:

I'm not gonna comment on what clubs should be used or not. I can see where Jim is coming from with the current cost of traveling, but I would like to see us as one region (just with less traveling to save money). I'd also like to see a National in the NE :thumbsup:

Northerner's = Scotland :lol:
Southerner's = North East :thumbsup:

Tom,

Agreed, prehaps another way to deal with this would be to make more round of the championship with fewer to count, eg, 8 rounds thats 2 at each venue and only 5 round to count to your overall score....

Jim:p

The cost of travel is crap i know that. For the York Regional we car shared to keep costs down. Do others not do this? I suppose it depends on how much you enjoy what you are doing or if you prefer to spend your money on Nationals etc. I agree with a National being held in the North East but do you mean Batley/York/Durham??

Just travelled to Clay Cross & back from Teesside today, approx 240miles for 12th meeting on £25's on my tod.

52.5mpg on cruise control with a boot full of kit

go by a DIESEL if you all ready haven't

I wouldnt mind seeing that, and for us who are commited to travelling gives us a second chance at every venue. Good idea :thumbsup:

Just generally the NE Chris, a nice permanent track would be good where we can get some home advantage (that we would be allowed to practice on).

That sounds like an idea Jim, then we could choose the closest venue's, but those who want to do all still can.

Car Sharing is ideal but with the amount of equipment/camping gear it is hard to get more than two racers per car, never mind if a parent comes to.

Anymore ideas anyone?

chris68nufc,

I understand what your saying but, how the hell did you fit all you gear in one car?? Enough stuff to sleep/camp, food and of course the most important bit the RC stuff??

JIm:p

I got ALL my stuff minus a tent in the boot of a BMW 3 series including a large nitro monster truck and a mahussive sleeping bag (that when rolled up is about a foot in diameter and the width of the boot) so in an estate it can be done.

More rounds would be good but i know for sure that the Further North venues would be dropped by most racers and that would mean that the cost to put on Regional would be far greater than money received from entries. Im sure that this will happen if it has now been spoke about on here and has obviousley been spoke about in length at another time. The future is looking bleak for racing off road in the North East!

All,

Once again, your reading too much into this thread.... It is just a feeler to find out what people think/want, however if you think that the most northeren clubs would suffer then you have already admitted that you know the distance is an issue to most people....

Please don't think of this as a 'quote' about what will happen, its just some constructive feed back from the racers of the region...

JIm:p

I can see everyones point and see the positives but there are also negatives. York and batley are established clubs and people know they exsist. people dont know about jarrow and durham, im sure the regional brings in some much needed cash for the clubs (i may be wrong) I think splitting the region would cause these smaller clubs to go under or become less supported.

I did durham to york last saturday morning in 56 mins thats not bad going. But i am off my tits i drove 160 mile each way today for a club meeting :eh?:

i say do it
jarrow teeside all well over 120miles for us, i for one say DO IT

So you think the northeast region should cut these clubs off (that are in the northeast) and force them into a smaller series that will be seriously undersupported and probably wont make it into the second year? all because its a few to many miles for you? Didnt want that to sound sharp but i think i gave a few more valid points than your post.

Get a couple coaches and ya'll sorted... :lol:

and
the three clubs are north north east.i think you should try driving up to bury twice a year josh then you can comment on weather there allowed in,
:p its not your decision or mine:p but may be a poll would decide it. i think it would be a good idea the three clubs mentioned are so far north, i heard father Xmas races there :p lol do a poll jim

I didnt think you was North East Carl ? :)

I think it should just be left as it is and include more like Bury Metro !

Carl, i see where your coming from and as i dont drive then i cannot even begin to comprehend the price of fuel and traveling up and down the country to race. But i do believe without having the support of York/Bately in the series the other clubs will die out pretty quickly.

Im sure i will come down to Bury but since its not technically NorthEast then i dont really have to.

Gary we ran northeast for the last 5 years, its only this year we backed of to run northwest as it was getting ridiculous traveling 110 Miles to York 120 miles Nissan factory.140+ to tee side,batley is 60 thats fine bury is 22 ish thats fine even York is okish at 110 but try traveling 144 to tee side then racing a full day then traveling back its just to far,
i see no harm in the three running nne and other three NE why would it affect your clubs.?

Some of you southern northeners perhaps could look at the mideast next year ... ?

Just a thought

It would affect them because the 3 clubs in question i dont think are big enough combined to hold a series and the main bulk of people who regularly attend the northeast regional series would prefer to race at the bigger, more established clubs like york/batley and maybe bury (still dont think bury is NE). I just think it would fail.

I say dont fix what isnt broken, the clubs are still running, people arnt moaning to badly about fuel costs and the racing is good. Carl, i think your the only person who has a major problem with the distances are your not even racing in the NE this year.

correct but were do you think this idea came from, not me josh for sure read jims first post, people have been complaining about traveling costs and rising fuel cost,anf having to spend hours traveling way up north,do a poll

To be honest, i think thats the best way to go from here. Can Jim edit this thread into a poll?

Anyway, im going to sleep now so i wont be replying till the morning :)

Money regionals bring in - it COST Jarrow several hundred pounds after the race fees were paid in to host the regional, this of course wasn't helped by the fact we were limited to hosting one day event and paid weekend hire for everything, therefore only had the income from a one day event to cover a weekend of costs. We're a small club and wouldn't like to comment yet if we could afford to put another regional on.

Splitting the North East Region - Many thought these comments would be made by those to the South of the region this year as there was more Northern clubs chosen to hold regionals, those from North of the region have for many years travelled at great cost to events in the South of the region without complaint, many travelling 120 miles plus each way every time to York, Batley and Bury several times a year. Until THIS YEAR when there has been more Northern regionals, there hasn't been a problem with people complaining about travelling, so suppose that shows where this issue has come from. Northern folks even travel down to the likes of Bury and Batley doing several hundred miles in one day just for club days to support these clubs, shame it never happens other way round.

There is not currently a track in the North of the region which could compare to the likes of Batley and Bury, which unfortunately means lack of support. This year there was opportunity for members from the North of the region to just attend local regionals to gain points needed (Durham, Jarrow and Teeside) but everyone travelled down to York which hopefully shows them as more than willing to take part, wherever it might be at whatever cost it may involve.

We may not have the best tracks in the North of the region, nowhere near the facilities elsewhere but I for one am very proud of what is achieved by much smaller clubs and appreciate fully what effort it requires to host a regional event.

A National 'Up North' would be great, can't see it ever happening, but a nice thought.

(mrs) turbo_brick

Plus your Parents cos you can't drive a road car or model car :lol::p

this thread has really pissed me off.
as normal a few poeple complain about something and it's the northern most clubs and racers that have to suffer.
some of us have been doing this sport for a long time (25 years for me) and we are the ones that alwas get the shitty end of the stick.

i agree with turbo brick the smaller clubs like durham and jarrow wouldn't bother putting a regional on as the numbers wouldn't be there so the money wouldn't be there so that means the clubs would have to close.

and this means no more racing for the racers from the north of the region so that means if we want to race (just at a club) we have to TRAVEL to batley york or bury but then again does anyone give a shit about us? do they balls as it has been for years.

how come nobody complains about the traveling costs of doing the nationals?????????

i do more traveling for racing than most of you lot on here throughout the year yet i still get up on a sunday mourning at 05:00 when i'm not racing in a comp for 12th scale / touring cars / or buggys and do a club race.

me and a couple of lads did southport a while ago i was up at 05:00 over to turbo bricks house for 06:00 packed the car on the road for 07:00 got stuck in a traffic jam just as we were about 8 to 10 miles from southport got there at 10:15 raced all day left the track at 17:00 and got back to turbo bricks house at 21:20 i got home at 21:50 (OH THE MOST INPORTANT BIT WE HAD FUN) thats why we do it.

go ahead have a poll just remember if you guys do this i'll still travel and race but i know a few that will give up.

and clubs will close so as normal do what you like just think about the affects to others.

You boys have no stamina, i flew back from norway in january to come to york regional. :bored:

Nobby,

This thread was never intended to P***s anyone off, it was only a discution to see if we as a whole region thought that the time had come where the region could stand being split...

I appreciate what your saying about travelling over the years, and I too have been racing for some 25 years plus...

So the general concensos is that the more northeren clubs wouldn't be able to hold a regional series due the lower amount of club members, but until thats explained, then people just assume every clubs the same...

I don't think this thread needs turning into a poll, that would be counter productive, but please keep talking and offering your opinions....

JIm:p

it's not a case of stamina lee.
i think you can understand that if this split goes through racers in the north of the region will have nowhere to race on a club night (i know you don't do club nights as you can't get away on tuesday nights)

but you have to look at the possible affect on the tyne & wear and teesside clubs.

sorry about my rant but it just seems that we (the northern most clubs) just get pushed to one side.
this year i though cool this is the first year in i don't know how long i didn't have to do s#~t loads of traveling to do the regional series but the first time we hold more than one round north of teesside people start whinging.

someone said bury didn't get a round as someone forgot or something.
if they had of got a round i would of still come and raced.