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Compo 16-12-2012 04:18 PM

1/12 Italian Job Coach scratch build for fun
 
Hi Guys this is my 1st post so I hope it works and doesn't annoye anyone? I do race 1/10 tourers but I also enjoy scratch building too... so heres a little something I knocked up for a demo my local club put on, hope you like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRe32tZY7Eput


Col 16-12-2012 04:54 PM

:thumbsup:

df-03 16-12-2012 05:13 PM

cool, when you collect all cars... RUUUN dude :)

tain 16-12-2012 06:42 PM

Nice one rich ,are you bringing it next friday??

cwilson 16-12-2012 07:52 PM

thats super cool. can you show some pics of how you get the ramp and doors to work please?

gainsy 16-12-2012 07:58 PM

Needs some gold in the back to get the rear end to slide in the corners like the film ;)

Dave Dodd 16-12-2012 08:24 PM

That's brilliant :thumbsup:

Compo 16-12-2012 11:04 PM

cheers guys
 
thanks for the comments guys, I didn't leave many details before as this was my first ever post and thread on a forum and I wasn't sure if it would work or if I done it correctly lol, @ Tain, yep the MkII coach should be at kmcc on fri (new doors, ramp, scale details and lights) but I still have loads to do so lots of coffee and 3am finishes ahead - just like the run up to JAE then really! lol) for those that want better detailed shots I'll post some this week along with all the new stuff thats happening to it. because of a very tight budget the ramp only went up and closed the doors and was lowered manually before each run:( as I only had 2 worn out standard acoms servos and couldn't make it come down aswell with the torque avaliable. the whole coach is build from scraps I had lying around the only new part was a 55t crawler motor as the jonson 540 didn't like hauling a coach that weighed 10k with 3 minis onboard around and bought the project to a standstill - literally! more details about ramp etc to follow...cheers again guys

Compo 16-12-2012 11:26 PM

current running gear...
Gearbox and rear axle - rear end of TL-01 with front half removed just ahead of motor
Front axles - widend TL-01 wishbones hubs etc with driveshafts removed
Motor and esc - ansmann 55t + viper rv11 esc
Chassis - mostly offcuts of ally I had lying around - theres even a door thresthold in there somewhere lol
Car deck - the ply from the back of my daughters chest of drawers!
Cab - some offcuts foam I asked the builders down the road for
Rear section of body - some old 6mm depron from an old aero project
Windows and Windscreen - cokebottles
Wheels n tyres - old tourer wheels with 80mm foam plane tyres with the centres cut out so they'd fit on the tc wheels
Paint - dulux testers I had around mixed to the right colour
4 old standard servos for steering and ramp
Sorry I lied- looking back on that list it wasn't just the motor I purchased, I also bought the tyres (£15 all in) and a pot of red paint for the roof (£4) some silver card for the details (79p) and 2 torches from poundland for the lights... still a pretty tight budget tho:)
The ramp holds the doors open when its down (they're on rubber bands which pull them closed) so when the ramp is raised on the 3rd channel the doors close behind it.

Wynney 17-12-2012 10:15 AM

Love that, awesome job and seem to drive real well :thumbsup:

metalmickey0 17-12-2012 02:08 PM

That is awesome. Will it 3 Minis in it thought? as only seen two tc around

mpg200 17-12-2012 02:15 PM

hold on lads i've got an idea

so cool

Compo 17-12-2012 02:23 PM

will it take 3? handling
 
Yep it handles really nicely (which was a shock) and when it had a pt in it actually posted some very repectable lap times lol (for a bus), thinking about putting a 13.5t spare novak ss in it for a laugh and racing it at the next fun night at our club!. Yeah Its been designed to take 3 tamiya minis in short wheelbase and still has room for 2 swb and 1 lwb mini if needs be (one of our club members runs lwb with a civic shell) sadly we only had 2 at that event as a member from another club couldn't make it and one of the two broke early on so thats why theres only one in the vid :( hopefully should have three for this fridays fun meet. It was also designed to take 2 tc's (so my kids could have a go as we dont own any minis) with room to spare (for the pallet of gold maybe lol) but the ramp is only 205mm wide so its tricky thats why theres a few mistakes in the vid as that was our first go at getting tc's in and with only 5mm room for error each side it was hard work especially standing side on 10 yards away with onlookers adding to the pressure! :bored: so the tc drivers did amazingly well all considered (and the orange one was on drift tyres lol)

AdamBurgess 17-12-2012 03:57 PM

I really does need to be seen to be believed, an incredible bit of kit which as Rich says he created for next to no cost (financial cost anyway, the hours of labour involved is another matter). It cruised round our make shift track effortlessly and was brilliant fun attempting to load the cars in the back. *shameless plug time* here's the link to the event write up in which the coach featured which has a few more pictures included in the slideshow http://www.ketteringmcc.co.uk/jae_2012.html :) I also have some video from onboard one of the cars being loaded into the coach, i'll get it clipped and uploaded.

DerbyDan 17-12-2012 04:16 PM

This really is a cool creation! Glad you've decided to share it with the guys n' gals on Oople Rich ;)

So I'd better make sure my Mini is operational for Friday's meeting then?!:D

Compo 17-12-2012 04:50 PM

thanks again guys
 
hello Adam and Dan (adam = driver of orange drift car in vid and DerbyDan = driver of orange mini in vid) in all honesty I dont want to kiss too much a##e but none of the construction would have meant anything without a team of superb drivers to pilot the cars going in the back throughout the display:) the only one that stuggled a bit was me when I had a go and Rob drove the bus (I was driving the 90's Laguna replica that stuttered alot lol):blush: the coach is currently on the kitchen table having the old doors "blown off" to fit propper glazed items so for those that are interested once I've sussed how to add a few pics I'll post them with details of how it all works for anyone whos interested or wants to replicate it. theres also an articulated lorry with cars being loaded in which I modded to run with a losi xxxs for power which kinda started all this a year ago which I'll try n post a vid or pics of

AdamBurgess 17-12-2012 05:02 PM

Here you go, a very quick edit of the onboard camera footage from the chase car driving into the back of the coach :) http://youtu.be/ZxJ8-ybBwHU

adam_u 17-12-2012 05:29 PM

Love it :thumbsup:

Compo 17-12-2012 07:38 PM

@Adam B
 
:thumbsup: nice one Adam. P.s those horrible lacky bands to help the poor old acoms servos raise the ramp which kept snagging the wheel arches wont be there on the mkII yey!

haggis 17-12-2012 09:57 PM

Fav rc car of 2012!

neiloliver 17-12-2012 10:06 PM

That is fantastic - well done!!

Compo 17-12-2012 11:16 PM

some pics of the ramp mech fail
 
sorry guys just tried to upload some pics I took of the ramp mech etc for those that asked and it looks like they're all too higher res (I am a total technophobe!) will try to take some low-res ones and post again soon:bored: thanks again for all the positive comments, those alone should keep me going till 3am every night this week to get mkII finished for friday lol:)

DerbyDan 18-12-2012 10:14 AM

Rich - do you have a 'Photobucket' account? Thats where I store my online pics, it seems to be able to accept my high-res images although I think it automatically re-sizes them to suit?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSC00123.jpg


& with my Mini:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...DSC00124-1.jpg

Compo 18-12-2012 11:04 AM

cheers dan
 
thanks Dan, no dont have a photo bucket account - guess I'll have to create one, might have to get Donna to have a look as shes great at all that kind of stuff (to be honest I surprised myself at getting this thread going lol) got some low res pics of the ramp mech now so hopefully should be able to get some on (fingers crossed) for those interested Dan pics show really well how the MK1 doors worked - top left of the right hand door the band that pulls them closed is visible and on the other door you can see the tab at the bottom which holds them open till the ramp goes up. not pretty or scale but it worked well for a prototype. Mk11 doors are servo operated on a seperate channel (and there glazed like the propper coach) so should look so much better and not cause snagging on the ramp. also visible are the bands which were nessasary to help the struggling acoms servos to lift the ramp (but sadly stopped them from having enough power to drop it again).MK11 ramp has 2 x 13kg servos so should work as originally intended. thanks again for the pics Dan:) you can also see in Dans pic how short I was of time at the end off the build - the paint on the rear doors was still wet when I applied the weathering! thats why it looks like someone just wiped them through some mud! lol

Compo 18-12-2012 11:10 AM

ramp mech shots
 
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hopfully this works. some pics of the ramp mech in raised position and lowered position. again not pretty but it worked. the rods are old kite rods with M3 screw with the heads dremmelled off and epoxied into the end of the rods. This was by far the hardest part of the build trying to figure out the length and shape of the rods to get the amount of travel needed from standard servos to make the ramp work propperly

Compo 18-12-2012 11:14 AM

bands
 
the horizontal band looks like it isn't doing much work but this one comes into play when the ramp is fully raised and holds it tight agains the screw stopper on the ally roll bar to stop the ramp jiggling about when raised

Compo 18-12-2012 11:18 AM

doors off
 
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"Your only supposed to blow the bl##dy doors off!!!, oh, my apoligies you have!" Mk1 doors off ready for Mk11's

musketter 18-12-2012 01:08 PM

Love it !!!

We have been doing this at Modelworld in Brighton for the last few years using Mardave running gear in the coach and Mardave Mini's

We manage to get all 3 Minis in almost every time we run, with less than 10mm extra width.

http://youtu.be/l3fREG7Grnk

Compo 18-12-2012 04:51 PM

cool
 
thats cool :). Funny enough I stumbled across another vid of this coach when we got back from JEA and I was looking through youtube to see if any spectators had uploaded footage. The vid in my link is how it all started for us, I built an artic out of an old lorry shell I had and a losi xxxs, then built a box trailor out of card and gaffer tape to run in a caravan race my club held, part way through the build I realised we may be able to get a car or two in there. another club member bought the cd along and the next thing you know I'm building a coach to do it propper:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thxMdtffltM


Compo 18-12-2012 08:42 PM

MKII launch posponed lol
 
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well just delayed the 1st run of the MKII coach as I just have to much on with family to spend the time and do it properly. However this does give me time to include the details which would not have been possible in the time avaliable no matter how much coffee I drank or sleep I lost (sleep depravation and scalples dont really mix well anyway lol) new stuff includes...
Fully detailed interior with strip lighting, blind behind driver and sunvisor(bought the paint and the vinyl covered diary to hack up for the drivers seat today, £8.66 added to the total cost lol)
Animated driver and steering wheel.(still a question mark on this one - dont want to but too many amps through my rx, as that'll make it 9 servo in all, but might run 2 rx's and share the load)
New chrome hubcaps.
Full lighting kit including leds in the rear doors.
The bloke hanging out the back guiding the minis in when the doors are open.
All the scale details I left off the Mk1 prototype - skylights, signwriting, GB etc on rear doors, mirrors, drivers door and passenger door....
...and a partidge in a pear tree lol. for now heres the low res pics of the ramp etc for those that are interested. thanks again and will have pics of the MKII doors tomorrow

Compo 21-12-2012 08:56 AM

The "Equestrian" Job lol
 
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Took a break from the coach last night to make this for my daughter to enter in tonights caravan race at our local club:). The ramp does lower, so if only I could make the horses rc we could re-enact some sort of "equetrian job" lol


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