Double Slipper Clutch?
 

New hopup on Tam USA for the 501x, a centre shaft for double slipper clutch, WTF?

Anyone any ideas, was wondering if it would be to set different slip on the front than the back, ie have the slipper on each of the 18t pulley's?

could be one of Tamiya's famously daft wordings - like the belt tensioners which aren't. :thumbsup:

or it could just mean a new centre shaft for the exsiting slipper

Looked some more, they are releasing a DB01 double slipper clutch, the shaft is to use that on a 501x. The DB01 already had a slipper set so it must be different in some way?

There's a center one-way listed so it aint that. Weird...!

Maybe the old slipper didnt work with the centre one way, so they need a new one.

It uses a different centre shaft again from the one way one though, so I don't think this relates to the one way, not sure though!

the only thing I can think of is a slipper either side of the spur gear, with the inner plates indexed to the spur gear to maybe give the slipper more 'feel'

Well it seems that the only logical explanation is that the two slipper pads could be the meaning for double slipper clutch.

Which would mean it's nothing new, and that Jimmy was probably right at the start of this thread, that it's just badly worded!

Have been wondering if (regardless of this part) there's any advantage to having separate front/rear slippers? I would think possibly but it's a pretty blunt instrument, in terms of sending more power to one end than the other.

I dunno, as they already released the slipper, I reckon it is as I described, some whacky Tamiya lateral thinking going on.....

My guess/hope would be that it's a regular slipper with an adjustable centre one-way slipper.

Either way, I am glad to see some new parts for the 501X becoming available, even though most are mainly for the Durga, I was worried now they've had the worlds in Japan that Tamiya would drop out of the competitive side again, but this suggests they're hanging about :thumbsup:

Jimmy, do you know if they've kept an offroad team in Japan, and anywhere else?

I agree, as you already have a rear ball diff which can be used as a slipper, and if the layshaft one way comes along then the diff at the front can be used as well.

Well the Euro champ who won for Tamiya is still driving for them so TRF is still in development as far as I know.

Also announced for the DB01:
54061 RC DB01 Double Slipper - Clutch Set

as if the car is not heavy enough:confused:

@Toonz:The car isn't so heavy,if you use the new lightweigth chassis.There you've got the possibility,to leave the motor heatsink away(better for indoor) and get so a bit less weight.

The new Double-Slipper seems to be more expensive than the normal one,so it has to be more than only another Slipper Clutch.Till now i couldn't find any pics of that part.

It is released, but what does it do?

http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages/user/...g/10072659.jpg

are they in any of the shops?

Tamiya are really quite bad at showing off their wares :o- I've no idea what this is until someone does Tamiyas job for them and gets some photos out.

I got this feeling that it is adjustable front and rear, but not to sure, looking at the parts list on TamiyaUSA.... as soon as someone find one online, let me know, I will buy it!

How is there no support/team in the uk for Tamiya? Bit strange considering we are one of the strongest nations for 10th offroad.
Or is there one?:eh?:

the distributor, Hobby Co, don't support a team, they barely support the TRF cars, and parts support is nearly nil...... so everyone shops abroad for their stuff mostly, mores the shame!

I'm the support team at Nationals - ask Damo! :woot:

It is in the shops, but you also need: 84034 TRF501X DOUBLE SLIPER CLUTCH CENTER SHAFT

what shops??

:pcalm down mate!!

it's a new Tamiya Part lol, can't, got to find one, GOT TO HAVE ONE!!!

Valium please....

Hows the car after yesterday dude? lol

SUUUPER FAST!!!! Went to play with the nitro nearer home after!

hope you didn't nose dive that beast then dude!

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=54061

$87 MSRP! yikes! ... and not compatible with the new center one-way.

So, wtf, this thing is able to handle 3.5 brushless motors? bmag needs one, go tell him. :P

God knows what this does, someone buy one!!

Looks like the centre shaft comes with it.

it sounds ACE - no one knows what it is or what it does - but it's expensive and the standard slipper is already good. :thumbsup:
Agreed tho, someone buy one so we can see what the chuff it is.:D

By the looks of it it will also be available for the 501 as Tamiya are also releasing:

TRF501X Center Shaft for Double Slipper Clutch
Item No.84034

I got one coming!!

As claimed by Tamiya(Japan), when front and rear slipped same time, such as land after jump or a bumpy surface, the acceleration will be a bit late.
But the new slipper allow front and rear drive train to slip independently, therefore to maintain maximum traction and more quick acceleration.

wow tamiya really is creative on making hop ups for their kits eh??
a budget kit with expensive hop ups
well anyway i still love my durga trying to spend as little hop up as possible on this kit and maximise the full potential of it :thumbsup:

Right, just finished building my Double slipper clutch, and what a clever design indeed.

Right, here we go, the outer plate drives the layshaft, which in turn, is connected to the front belt pullet. The inner plate is, in turn, connected to the rear belt pulley, the rear pulley hub sits on a bearing, which sits on the laysheft, so it is supported but is able to rotate at a different speed to the layshaft.

So, in effect, it is a slipper which can slip the front and rear belts seperately..... see how it goes on the weekend me thinks....

Pics to follow.