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dicky14 22-10-2012 09:32 PM

New TC02C
 
:)Hi guys, just built my new TC02C to see if its better than my cougar sv, whats all of your thoughts????????:D

Hpi_guy 22-10-2012 09:51 PM

I love mine. Drives perfectly

Kusal 23-10-2012 08:20 AM

I have driven an SV and now am driving a TC02C.
All I can say is that a SV "could" be quicker on one lap, the TC02C was the fastest (and easiest to drive) on 6 minutes!
It is a lot more forgiven and you can really attack and "race" against the others!
Just my thoughts!

john333 23-10-2012 08:29 AM

A final for you this week then ;)

dicky14 23-10-2012 05:29 PM

Have to agree with the flying one lap of the cougar it is quick but not consistant enough, and hopefully john yes A final on wednesday, its your car that normally beats me when im in(if gareth dont finish) LOL. may need setup tips though????:p

deano43 23-10-2012 05:37 PM

Great car and spares are cheap also it's very strong seems very consistent too all for £130 I will be there Wednesday again with mine at Mansfield

john333 23-10-2012 09:53 PM

Yeah we'll go through some setups this week. First thing you need to do is drill out the shock pistons to 1.5mm. 40 weight in the front and 30 or 35 in the rear.

adon30 24-10-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by john333 (Post 706869)
Yeah we'll go through some setups this week. First thing you need to do is drill out the shock pistons to 1.5mm. 40 weight in the front and 30 or 35 in the rear.


If your racing outdoors do not drill the pistons. The ones on my x2c were drilled and it felt like zebedee was in the car. Went back to kit and it was 1,000 times better.
For kit 27.5-30 rear and 32.5-35 front with kit springs. From the stock set up the only set up changes I make are ride height and camber.

If your indoors however don't ask me, I only do proper off road :) lol

Robbiejuk 24-10-2012 11:42 AM

Wow thats soft dude, I always ran 40 front 35 rear on the standard kit springs. I only drill the rear piston though.

I always found that If i ran standard pistons in the back it used to skip badly over bumps, and I was running similar weights to yourself before I drilled the pistons.

Harder oil and bigger holes always feels nice to me. :lol:

adon30 24-10-2012 11:58 AM

Now you've said that I'm going to have to check. It sounded right to me this morning but then I am full of cold :) will report back if I've made an error.
Also depends what oil brand your using.

Mine were rear only drilled and I think I went upto 40wt oil in them and it still wouldn't provide the right dampening. As soon as it had kit though it felt a lot better. It also jumped properly and transformed the car where as before the back end used to collapse into the up slopes.

However the xPro set up you gave me is awesome and works perfect in the wet when all else fails :)

Robbiejuk 24-10-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by adon30 (Post 707004)
Now you've said that I'm going to have to check. It sounded right to me this morning but then I am full of cold :) will report back if I've made an error.
Also depends what oil brand your using.

Mine were rear only drilled and I think I went upto 40wt oil in them and it still wouldn't provide the right dampening. As soon as it had kit though it felt a lot better. It also jumped properly and transformed the car where as before the back end used to collapse into the up slopes.

However the xPro set up you gave me is awesome and works perfect in the wet when all else fails :)

Losi oils.

I just found that the pistons had too much pack before I drilled them. Car is much more composed with drilled pistons. Probably personal preference.

That X-pro set-up is pretty damn good on wet astro. Worked well at worksop to.

adon30 24-10-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 707011)
I just found that the pistons had too much pack before I drilled them. Car is much more composed with drilled pistons. Probably personal preference.

LOL I found it had not enough pack. As did several other drivers who drove the car or watched it. But as you say, it's all personal preferance.

I've checked my oils and I was correct in what I said. I used AE oils which aren't to far off the Losi equivalents although it does say AE 27.5 is 30 Losi on the chart :eh?:.....
When I used the drilled pistons I think I had Kyosho oil. 500 front and 400 rear, and then went up at the rear, but didn't feel right for me.

Anyway back to the point. I would try the car with kit and drilled pistons and find which ones you prefer. Once you drilled though you can't go back without havng some more pistons. Go with the weights the guys suggest for drilled and try the slightly heavier weights I suggested for kit. My set up appears to use quite light oils but the car does feel nice and alive and it's about what most mid motors use (Plus it's getting cold out at the moment!!)

Once your happy with your shocks not a lot else changes (unless you run the alloy option parts). You can keep the same set up and just concentrate on putting the car around the track and beating everyone :)


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Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 707011)
That X-pro set-up is pretty damn good on wet astro. Worked well at worksop to.

Kiddie was slick the weekend and the car had so much traction I kept running into the back of people when I accelerated, as they couldn't. If only I'd drove around them instead I could have had some good rounds.

Kusal 24-10-2012 07:47 PM

Would you mind sharing that Xpro set up with me?
Currently building an Evo and need to start somewhere.
Thanks.

adon30 24-10-2012 08:16 PM

No it's too good to share :) lol

I got mine of robbie. If he can't find it then I'll see if I can dig it out. Also follow his build tips as mine hasn't broken (yet). I have upgraded it with the team c idler, spur and front chassis recently. Oh and an alloy front holder but that was just bling. Mine also has a decent amount of weight under servo and lipo, although I'm going to halve the under lipo weight as a trial.

Kusal 24-10-2012 09:49 PM

Thanks in advance!

Robbiejuk 25-10-2012 11:37 AM

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I think it was this one :)

Definatly a wet weather set-up, I reckon it would be good on a clay or dirt track.

Kusal 25-10-2012 12:14 PM

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

ben44 25-10-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 707304)
I think it was this one :)

Definatly a wet weather set-up, I reckon it would be good on a clay or dirt track.


Did you have some picture to explain me where you using your dremel.
Did you dremel your motor plate?

Robbiejuk 25-10-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ben44 (Post 707317)
Did you have some picture to explain me where you using your dremel.
Did you dremel your motor plate?

This set-up is for the rear motor car and not the mid motor. All I did was cut out the back of the battery tray above where the front pivot block is. It allows you to move the pivot block up and down.

I have dremelled the motor plate on my Akula AKX2 SCT prototype to allow the pivot block on that to be moved up and down. But you cannot adjust anitsquat (increase it anyways) on the Tc02C because of the design of the rear end.

adon30 25-10-2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 707304)
I think it was this one :)

Definatly a wet weather set-up, I reckon it would be good on a clay or dirt track.

Yep it's that one. Except I used the kit pistons and didn't drill them.:p However think they are the 3 hole ones anyway so that will be a bit more confusing :eh?:. Can't remember now as haven't touched the setup for months.
Was there weight under servo on that setup?? Thats what I run anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 707318)
I have dremelled the motor plate on my Akula AKX2 SCT prototype to allow the pivot block on that to be moved up and down. But you cannot adjust anitsquat (increase it anyways) on the Tc02C because of the design of the rear end.

I have not actually done the antisquat mod either on the X-Pro. However have done it on the Akula, after a top recommendation, and its improved it greatly so would be worth trying. All you need to do is allow for clearance when the pivot block is raised.

Robbiejuk 26-10-2012 11:52 AM

No under servo weight, but 30 grams of lead on the servo.

Muzzie 08-11-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kusal (Post 706619)
I have driven an SV and now am driving a TC02C.
All I can say is that a SV "could" be quicker on one lap, the TC02C was the fastest (and easiest to drive) on 6 minutes!
It is a lot more forgiven and you can really attack and "race" against the others!
Just my thoughts!


Just to give a quick review, I borrowed a friends TC02C and raced it back to bace with My cougar, new tyre on both and I agree with the above. I think the Cougar is quicker if you're a driving god but you want a forgiving consistent drive then you can't go far wrong.

Result with the Cougar 14 laps fastest lap 21.78
Result with the Team C 15 laps fastest lap 20.48

Enough said :p

Many Thanks to Ian Deans for the lend :thumbsup:

dicky14 08-11-2012 09:46 PM

:D you drove it well Muzz, are you buying one?:p

john333 09-11-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dicky14 (Post 711799)
:D you drove it well Muzz, are you buying one?:p

Does a bear poo in the woods? Lol

deano43 09-11-2012 10:18 AM

He has got another week with it to make his mind up yet rich and to answer johns question = yes unless it's a polar bear lol

Muzzie 09-11-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dicky14 (Post 711799)
:D you drove it well Muzz, are you buying one?:p

I've been looking at this one

http://www.teamcracing.net/index.php...mart&Itemid=71

T2C Factory Team Edition - Its got the ali C holder / rear hub, Carbon fibre shock tower and big bore shocks. A bit of bling me thinks :p

dicky14 09-11-2012 01:12 PM

:mad:lol, you cant have that or we will call you jason, pmsl

Muzzie 09-11-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dicky14 (Post 711904)
:mad:lol, you cant have that or we will call you jason, pmsl

Well if I've got it beat Mr Durango why not do it with some style :lol:

adey 09-11-2012 03:01 PM

Hi all, I have a tc02c with all, and I mean all the alloy option parts fitted and I think it's a fantastic car. It's very easy to be consistently fast with. The shocks seem really easy to build and bleed which is nice too. I flattened the diff plates with a ceramic stone and the diff is now very smooth and free and has remained so for the last few meetings without fault. The other thing I have tried is turning the rear wishbones around and mounting the rear shocks on the front if the tower. Just trying it. Can't upload pics though as my iPhone wont let me.

john333 09-11-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzzie (Post 711893)
I've been looking at this one

http://www.teamcracing.net/index.php...mart&Itemid=71

T2C Factory Team Edition - Its got the ali C holder / rear hub, Carbon fibre shock tower and big bore shocks. A bit of bling me thinks :p

Not sure they're bringing that one in as it works out very expensive. Also the car goes better with small bores on.

deano43 10-11-2012 11:39 AM

I did mention that to muzie about the shocks I prefer small bore shocks and he don't need all the alloy bits straight away just the front c hubs to start and andy @ pbm does them at a real good price as always so I would go for the one we have got but its his choice maybe he wants to compete with Jason in the bling department as well as kicking is ass on the track and maybe one day we can turn mr Durango to team c mmmm you never know lol


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