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Danny McGee 28-05-2008 07:26 PM

Losi Xcelorin Brushless Combo
 
If anyones interested in having a look at this little bit of kit ill be running it at the weekend. Im going to be trying to motor in practise as its not legal yet but i shall be running the speedo in 2wd so feel free to have a nose. Ill be in a huge bloody tent thats bright yellow somewhere around on the friday, sat and sun.

Details found here.
http://www.losi.com/Electronics/Motors_ESCs.aspx

Danny

Body Paint 28-05-2008 07:39 PM

The motor can looks very similar to Novak doesn't it.

How come there's no 5.5T Danny? Seems an odd wind to miss out

tyreman 28-05-2008 07:41 PM

Got mine as well.

mattym0310 28-05-2008 08:15 PM

Is it just a coincidence that the motors look exactly the same as Novak ones, the ESC spec sounds similar [if not, exactly the same] and it's foot print is only 1mm smaller? :confused::eh?:

Looks good though! :thumbsup:

Danny McGee 28-05-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Body Paint (Post 128577)
The motor can looks very similar to Novak doesn't it.

How come there's no 5.5T Danny? Seems an odd wind to miss out

Honestly im not to sure why they left that one out. Just had the 6.5 up an down the road an it seems pretty good to me, very smooth which i like.

guess the proof will be in the pudding at the weekend :)

Darren Boyle 28-05-2008 10:49 PM

Ran mine in my TC (4.5) and 2wd (6.5) last week and was well impressed! Bloomers had a go with the TC and he too loved he feel and speed of it. Cant wait for them to become BRCA approved, I think they may well become popular then...............especially at the price they are at.

B4 Sloth 31-05-2008 07:16 PM

I got mine today!!
 
Thanks to Dms mine arrived today. My B4 is still in bits and needing a good clean. Now deliberating to wait for a vortex shell or heat up my unpainted shell. Who has done this before, How much can i stretch it- enough to get the speedo under?

Gnarly Old Dog 02-06-2008 04:55 PM

Got one to play with as well:p

Am recovering well after having fallen off my chair when I checked out the price.:woot:

No serious damage to me or my wallet - The combo price is amazing at £134.99 RRP. Yeah - that's right a 6.5T motor AND ESC - complete with cooling fan atop the ESC.

Can't wait to get it installed and for it to be homologated.

losidriver70 02-06-2008 05:13 PM

esc?
 
does the esc that runs the 6400KV motor,still work with the 13.5,10.5 6.5 series motors!


[email protected] any help would be appreciated Thank You!:eh?:

Darren Boyle 02-06-2008 07:36 PM

No the esc for the Kv rated sensorless motors is different to the sensored speedo for 3.5 to 13.5 sensored motors

bbq 03-06-2008 02:50 PM

Danny!
How was it?
Losi Xcelorin vs LRP sphere who is the winner?

Darren Boyle 03-06-2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Losi Xcelorin vs LRP sphere who is the winner?
On overall performance the Sphere (just) but it is nearly twice the price, but on value for money and "very good" performance the Losi all the way

silky 11-06-2008 08:40 AM

Hi Chaps, I bought one of these combos last week, a 6.5 sensored system and when I tried to use it at the weekend, I could not get it to work. Me and Craig Harris set it up numerous times, sometimes it would take the calibration and sometimes it would'nt. When it did take the setup calibration and we thought it was fine, it would run for a second or two then just stop, if I let go of the throttle stick for a few seconds it would then go again, then stop after another second or so, and thats it! One point is though, that it didnt seem to stop if i was holding the car without the wheels on the floor.

Anyone got any ideas? I dont want to send it back and look like an idiot lol.

Thanks for any help guys.

Northy 11-06-2008 09:06 AM

Sounds like something to do with the sensors?
Have you tried another sensor wire?

G

sparrow.2 11-06-2008 09:16 AM

I had exactly the same problem with my speedo when the capacitor was bust. It would run fine in my hand but as soon as it hit the ground and started pulling more amps the speedo switched off.

silky 11-06-2008 09:24 AM

Cheers for the quick replys guys,

Northy, Havent got another wire to try, so I havent been able to do that.

Sparrow - Did you have to send yours back, as it seems to be the same problem?

Thanks

sparrow.2 11-06-2008 09:58 AM

You can try soldering on a new capacitor yourself. the layout of the speedo looks similar to Novak so it's all easy to get to. The one included is a 16v 8200mf I think, so anything of around about that size would work fine and you can probably get hold of one in an electronics hardware shop or model shop.

Be carefull to connect it properly though! If you don't think you're up to it somebody at your local track ought to be able to help you out.

If that doesn't work you might have to send it in.

Kopite 11-06-2008 01:34 PM

does anyone have an educated guess as to when the motors will become legal (1/10 sensored)?

they're blue and shiny :drool:

ashleyb4 11-06-2008 01:51 PM

Yea i wouldnt mind one eiher after my peak 6.5 gave up the ghost im on the look out for a nwe motor and one of these would be ace but there not legal for regionals :(

A

Chequered Flag Racing 11-06-2008 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kopite (Post 132545)
does anyone have an educated guess as to when the motors will become legal (1/10 sensored)?

they're blue and shiny :drool:

No is the answer.

Depends if & when the importer has sent them into the BRCA Electric Board for tech inspection. They may not even pass :o

reply to thread on another forum were I asked a similar question,

Quote:

Not prepared to list any other motors that have been submitted and "not passed" the 10.5 spec Electric Board tests. That's an Electric Board wide stance, so don't expect to approach other members and get any other response http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/images/smilies/wink.gif

If you really do want to know if a particular motor has been submitted, I suggest speaking to it's UK importer/distributor. They may or may not be prepared to share that information - it's their call.

We do know there are a number of other 10.5 motors due to be submitted in the near future, and well in advance of the 1/12th National season (which is why I assume you're asking Glenn).

In the meantime we have the Nosram and Novak to race with and learn from http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/images/smilies/cool.gif

Any new 10.5 motors will be published on the Electric Board site the Monday following approval.

Hope that helps,
Mark Burgess
BRCA Electric Board Secretary
BRCA 1/10th Electric Circuit section Secretary and Satefy Officer

losixxx 11-06-2008 07:01 PM

motor is legal now! had confirmation from PW yesterday, list just hasnt been updated by webmaster yet..

tyreman 11-06-2008 07:27 PM

Mines staying in for the weekend now. Glad I did a day testing with it for gearings.

Northy 11-06-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losixxx (Post 132596)
motor is legal now! had confirmation from PW yesterday, list just hasnt been updated by webmaster yet..


It's not legal for me if it's not on the list on the site! :thumbdown:

I thought they only got updated on a Monday, so won't be on until next week now?:confused:

G

losixxx 11-06-2008 08:09 PM

thats up to you m8, but if the homoligation officers tell's me its legal then that will do me!

Northy 11-06-2008 08:14 PM

Its up to the meeting's scrutineerer's to pass a car as legal, and he/she can only use the information he/she has at the time. As the list is only updated on Monday's then the list for this weekend is as it is now, therefore not legal IMHO.

Paul loves people posting stuff like this on public forums :(

tyreman 11-06-2008 08:43 PM

It's on the list on the BRCA website

Northy 11-06-2008 08:55 PM

That's fine then, no problems any more.
It's just as a rule it only gets updated on a Monday :)

G

losixxx 11-06-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 132643)
Its up to the meeting's scrutineerer's to pass a car as legal, and he/she can only use the information he/she has at the time. As the list is only updated on Monday's then the list for this weekend is as it is now, therefore not legal IMHO.

Paul loves people posting stuff like this on public forums :(


the list WAS updated on monday just not posted on the brca website! from the horse's mouth!

ashleyb4 11-06-2008 09:03 PM

righty then im getting one

A

ashleyb4 11-06-2008 09:07 PM

has anyone tried the motors with a nosram/lrp speedo? Do they work? Cant see why not just want to check.

A

josh_smaxx 11-06-2008 09:34 PM

:( they dont do a 7.5 :(

ashleyb4 11-06-2008 09:38 PM

be a man josh.

A

josh_smaxx 11-06-2008 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 132678)
be a man josh.

A

:p i only want it for indoors.

I know someone who found a 4.5 to be the best in a 2wd indoors, it was awesome watching him drive.

ashleyb4 11-06-2008 09:42 PM

ive seen someone run a 3.5 outdoors in a b4 it didnt even get to half speed :p

A

josh_smaxx 11-06-2008 09:43 PM

My other mate used to run 3.5 in a B4 indoors, that was funny.

LEGEND 12-06-2008 07:25 AM

Yes i remember that, then he tried it on a lipo and it was popping wheelies on the slippy with bald tire on.:lol:

Chequered Flag Racing 12-06-2008 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 132608)
Mines staying in for the weekend now. Glad I did a day testing with it for gearings.

Is that with the Losi esc & motor?

Which motor are you using and in which car?

What ratio have you settled on?

Spencer Mulcahy 12-06-2008 09:34 AM

I ran mine on sunday and it was very good the power delivery was very smooth 6.5 t was a bit disapointed with the speed but I realised that I had the timing set wrong so once that is changed it will be perfect, more than happy with it and for the price yon cant go wrong. The setup card is a work of genious it is that easy I can use it.:thumbsup:

Gnarly Old Dog 12-06-2008 11:43 AM

What did you do to the timing Spencer and was it in your 2 or 4WD?

What overall ratio did you have it on?
Taa

tyreman 12-06-2008 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 132742)
Is that with the Losi esc & motor?

Which motor are you using and in which car?

What ratio have you settled on?

Losi XXXcr, LRP Sphere 2007 spec speedo, Losi 6.5 motor geared on 25/78 7.58 overall ratio.


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