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Click 30-09-2012 04:50 PM

Naul indoor racing 2012/13
 
Hi Lads,

What a great days racing :D

Great to see the numbers back racing indoors.

Track was 'tweaked' as we went through the heats from racers feedback. Some jumps still need a little work but nothing major.

When you look at the track it seems very simple, but when you race on it you realise how tricky it actually is.

Roll on the winter :woot:

Kevin

Meath77 30-09-2012 07:39 PM

Love the track. The jumps are great, they're all slightly different. The place is deadly, the pit area is better than before imho because we're not as spread out.
Good crowd today and a few guys that normally go are missing so numbers should increase.
Were you around for the end Kev? Thursday night racing looks like it's going to be moved to wednesday night, and also looks like the 3 qualfiers and 2 finals format is going ahead too

Wayne

Click 30-09-2012 08:08 PM

Hi Wayne,

Had to head off once all the finals finished.

That's good news about the 3 heats and two finals.

Weds night sounds good, I need lots more practice!

Kevin

The Doktor 30-09-2012 10:53 PM

I really enjoyed today. The track is great, tricky, but good. At least I didnt go home with a bag of broken stuff.
The work done by all involved was well worth it, the place is looking great.

noreargrip 01-10-2012 09:07 AM

sorry I couldn't make it..very busy at work at the moment.so I worked Sunday ..on a positive note it will pay for my 44.2
I will be there as often as I can

celticpanman 01-10-2012 12:24 PM

look forward to seeing you again mark

your always welcome

kartstuffer 04-10-2012 07:55 AM

Yes, thanks to all who put the track together ( and its warmer than last year) just a little tweaking i think to make it flow a little more.( tabletop on a corner ?)
Well done guys:D

kartstuffer 14-10-2012 09:05 PM

A good turnout to-day with A,B,& C finals in clubman & some great racing.
All getting ready for round 1 of the winter championship starting next Sunday.:thumbsup:

Rayzerp 15-10-2012 09:24 AM

Really enjoyed the racing yesterday :thumbsup:

celticpanman 15-10-2012 09:27 AM

enjoyed the day yesterday very happy roll on the winter season starts soon

Slim Shady 17-10-2012 03:44 PM

Loving the Naul
 
Roll on the Winter Championship.. :drool:

Meath77 17-10-2012 05:04 PM

Yeah, should be good. And the best thing is the weather doesn't matter!

Click 21-10-2012 07:03 PM

Hi Lads,

Great start to the club championship today.

Special mention goes to Alan & Lucy, great racers and improving race after race.

I wasn't able to keep up with Alan & I JUST about stayed ahead of Lucy. As they get older they get better, as I get older!!!:cry:

Its good to see the younger members of our club coming on so well.

The track is really beginner friendly + has some challanges for the more experienced racer.

Over time the track might develop more of a 'flow' with different 'feature' jumps but that's down to the racers and what they want.

Thanks to everybody for a great days racing, also thanks to Derek & Colin for their superfast changeover of my front steering geometry, their hands were moving so fast they were a blur:D

Kevin

kartstuffer 22-10-2012 08:12 AM

Yes a great days racing with 20 drivers & not all regulars there. Now I don`t want to sound like i`m complaining because i`m not ( those who set it up and built the track have done a great job) ,but after a few weeks racing on the track I think that to progress we need to make the track more flowing and improve the jumps (to make them smoother & less harsh)
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this or is it only me:blush:.

kartstuffer 22-10-2012 08:19 AM

Minis at the Naul
 
We tried a mini yesterday on the astro and it was fine with Sch mini spike tyres on touring car rims rims so if anyone is interested in racing minis contact the club or come along to try one on any wednesday night or raceday (Sunday) as we only have to move some of the jumps as they are modular.

Click 22-10-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartstuffer (Post 706248)
Yes a great days racing with 20 drivers & not all regulars there. Now I don`t want to sound like i`m complaining because i`m not ( those who set it up and built the track have done a great job) ,but after a few weeks racing on the track I think that to progress we need to make the track more flowing and improve the jumps (to make them smoother & less harsh)
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this or is it only me:blush:.

Hi,

I sort of agree!!!

At the moment I'd classify the track as tight & technical, point & squirt style.

Some racers prefer a more flowing, faster paced style track with more ambitious jumps.

I think the main thing the DMCC club needs to consider, IMHO, is that the track is always 'beginner' friendly. There is no point, IMHO, building an elobrate track for a handful of top racers when the club is mainly made up of the clubman class.(I'll now dig a big hole & jump into it:p )

A modified racer made a comment to me yesterday that they felt the track was encouraging bad driving habits, I do see their point but like everything in life you need to strike a good balance. There are some highly experienced racers in the DMCC club and their suggestions, along with all the other members views/opinions should be considered.

I'd like to see the track develop over time, why don't racers make proposals to the club on what changes they would like. Have some plans and/or photo's from other tracks so the DMCC have something to go on. I don't think there is any point asking for change and then walking away :blush: You need to have some idea what you would like and then we can all discuss what to do:D

kartstuffer 22-10-2012 09:08 AM

Yes I agree with that but the point I am talking about is the up ramps in particular being at such an angle and length that when the front of a car hits it and compresses the suspension and then the rear hits at such a sharp angle it tries to somersault the car before it has a chance to settle which leads to a lot of unnecessary crashes for all abalities.If the up ramps had more of a curve at the entry point this might help ?
I`m no expert just trying to look at it from all levels of ability, I certainly dont want to make it more difficult for beginners (as we have a lot at the moment) just more flowing & not as frustrating.;)

Slim Shady 22-10-2012 11:54 AM

Yea...Hats off to Team Thompson..Gud day at the races..:)

Click 22-10-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartstuffer (Post 706269)
Yes I agree with that but the point I am talking about is the up ramps in particular being at such an angle and length that when the front of a car hits it and compresses the suspension and then the rear hits at such a sharp angle it tries to somersault the car before it has a chance to settle which leads to a lot of unnecessary crashes for all abalities.If the up ramps had more of a curve at the entry point this might help ?
I`m no expert just trying to look at it from all levels of ability, I certainly dont want to make it more difficult for beginners (as we have a lot at the moment) just more flowing & not as frustrating.;)

I know what you mean, it depends on how you look at them, are they obstacles to get over cleanly or are they jumps? If they are jumps then they need to be modified, if its an obstacle then it is what it is and you have to figure out the best way to get over them and still get a good lap time:D

It would be interesting to hear from some of the other racers, next time at the track we can hold a short meeting? I'll bring the biscuits :D and Dave will make the tea:woot:

Click 22-10-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slim Shady (Post 706313)
Yea...Hats off to Team Thompson..Gud day at the races..:)

2nd that, fantastic racing from all in Team Thompson. Alan & Lucy are top clubman(person?) racers and the other guy isn't bad either;)

Sv1keith 22-10-2012 02:46 PM

I agree with your points on this topic jumps are a bit crazy and a lot of on off driving with not enough flow considering the old naul was a slightly bigger track and able to put in quicker lap times compaired to the new naul. Don't pick me up wrong about this very happy the club is indoors with dry conditions just some minor tweeks and fine tuning it will be flying for all to enjoy . Oh one other thing 10am start can this happen with 11am first race

Click 22-10-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sv1keith (Post 706355)
I agree with your points on this topic jumps are a bit crazy and a lot of on off driving with not enough flow considering the old naul was a slightly bigger track and able to put in quicker lap times compaired to the new naul. Don't pick me up wrong about this very happy the club is indoors with dry conditions just some minor tweeks and fine tuning it will be flying for all to enjoy . Oh one other thing 10am start can this happen with 11am first race

I think we are all saying the same thing, we just need to agree two things:

1. What changes need to be made?

2. Who is going to make the changes and when?

Sv1keith 22-10-2012 09:57 PM

Well the committee have to make the 1st move on that I think unless race director makes changes himself could be wrong do ...

Could dmcc drivers voice any opinion regarding this matter also could practice days be run on a sat as midweek don't suit me due to work just some room for thought and pay for elec as we use it

Slim Shady 22-10-2012 10:05 PM

Diff Gear
 
Hey Keith..Thanks for the replacement diff gear mate..I owe ya one..fair play..Cheers Tony.

Mugenextreme 22-10-2012 10:44 PM

Lads we have the AGM coming up soon. Just a idea but could a group of 3 or 4 be nominated to look after the track setup. Rather the pile another job on the current committee / new committee. This group could be tasked with gauging feedback from the different sections of the club and between them come up with solutions to build and improve the track layout and design.

kartstuffer 22-10-2012 10:47 PM

If those two get any quicker i will be back in Clubman and let them go mod ! or else i will be resigned to mechanic my fingers aren`t as quick as theres.
Keith (if you pay the monthly fee )and want to practice on saturday or any other time I think you just have to collect keys from Graham who is beside the place.
On the track layout I think we either decide to try and improve it or as you say live with it, but as we are only up and running i think there is room to improve the layout to make it more driver freindly and still a challenge.:drool:

Click 22-10-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mugenextreme (Post 706563)
Lads we have the AGM coming up soon. Just a idea but could a group of 3 or 4 be nominated to look after the track setup. Rather the pile another job on the current committee / new committee. This group could be tasked with gauging feedback from the different sections of the club and between them coming up with solutions to build and improve the track layout and design.

Sounds like a plan. :thumbsup:

Sv1keith 23-10-2012 09:03 AM

Glad it worked out ray ... Colin who's going to do the nominating or should people put there name forward

celticpanman 23-10-2012 10:15 AM

Hi all
Glad to hear that you all had a great days racing.

Yes the track can be changed once we agree what way to go.
At the moment only the race director and committee can approve changes

The jumps were put in as a STARTING point and can be changed as we find fit.
What we wanted to change was the large awkward jumps we had last time ( from access and marshalling ) to something more friendly.

The up ramp can be changed easily and will just take time, something we can do over time.

I do not think it should be changed just because 1 car or a small few cant manage it or do not like it. It should be a majority WHICH MAKES THE TRACK BETTER FOR ALL.
( DO NOT TAKE ME WRONG AND NOT POINTING FINGERS HERE )

By the way this is exactly why the winter race 2012 was postponed.
We need to tweak this and make it better for the club.

celticpanman 23-10-2012 10:45 AM

Sorry had to go there for a while

Only those who have paid the monthly amount can avail of unlimited racing and the key can be collected from me once i have advance notice
just dont arrive up expecting me to wait in all day

having 1 or 2 looking after track changes is not a bad idea as suggested (once it is not set up just for them )

Any ideas that make things better for the club and promote the sport will always be welcome

Mugenextreme 23-10-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celticpanman (Post 706660)
Sorry had to go there for a while

Only those who have paid the monthly amount can avail of unlimited racing and the key can be collected from me once i have advance notice
just dont arrive up expecting me to wait in all day

having 1 or 2 looking after track changes is not a bad idea as suggested (once it is not set up just for them )

Any ideas that make things better for the club and promote the sport will always be welcome


I would be quite happy to put my name in the hat for working on the track development.

Click 23-10-2012 11:41 AM

I'd also be interested. It would be good if we also had a newbe on the track development team.

kartstuffer 23-10-2012 12:22 PM

I know youre not pointing fingers ( just because I have been moaning about the track from day 1).I am also not pointing fingers as you guys did a great job putting it all together I just feel that the cars are taking a hammering unnecessarily ,mostly on the sharp up ramps.I might notice this more as I am trying to keep 5 cars running and see what damage is happening most frequently.
I think all who race regularly should have an input into what style of track they want to race on & I would be thinking more of the new drivers here.:D:p

celticpanman 23-10-2012 12:29 PM

I agree. And ps not pointing at you at all

Just general

kartstuffer 23-10-2012 01:00 PM

Just had a look at the new Maratime track ,Don`t know how to link it but it`s on oople , what do you think.Wall of death at btm right hand corner and crossover in the middle to avoid hesd to head on the 2 straights???

celticpanman 23-10-2012 03:50 PM

hi

is this the one you mean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcyR4...eature=related

h0m3sy 23-10-2012 04:29 PM

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Sv1keith 23-10-2012 04:47 PM

I'd like too throw my name into the hat as a newbie

kartstuffer 23-10-2012 09:17 PM

Hi
No this is not it.
There is a new permament track just laid ,sorry i`m not more computer literate .
Look on oople maratime raceway off road wars rd 1 report .
It was only submitted today.
Just to get an idea of what they are diong and we might learn from it ??
Some of this could be incorporated into our layout in principal.

Mugenextreme 23-10-2012 10:17 PM

http://www.maritimeracing.info/images/stories/shine.jpgThis what u are talking about Ivan


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