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Lowie 27-05-2008 01:31 PM

little ESC-position-mod on an X10
 
I did some little modifications on my pred in order to get all my electrics into the chassis without space-issues.

I wrote a little building-article on the-pred.co.uk but here are some pics allready.

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...06_320x240.JPG

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...08_320x240.JPG

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...10_320x240.JPG


for more info, see the linked article on the-pred.co.uk

darryl 27-05-2008 02:07 PM

looks good lowie but will the shell still fit ok :confused:

Lowie 27-05-2008 02:08 PM

yup, it does :)

I'll take and post a picture later this evening

darryl 27-05-2008 02:11 PM

look forward to seeing it

footey 27-05-2008 02:19 PM

u dont need to build a full platform like that u can just build it on to the servo which is what i have done with my gtb in my x11 i have used a x10 shell as it is slightly diffrent not sure the x11 shell will fit

darryl 27-05-2008 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footey (Post 128022)
u dont need to build a full platform like that u can just build it on to the servo which is what i have done with my gtb in my x11 i have used a x10 shell as it is slightly diffrent not sure the x11 shell will fit

shane any chance of a pic for of it, as really need to put my gtb in:)

footey 27-05-2008 02:37 PM

i dont have a camera m8 but it is easy to do erm twins have done it i think if not im sure theres pics on pred forum

darryl 27-05-2008 02:37 PM

cheers mate will pm them :thumbsup:

footey 27-05-2008 02:40 PM

basically m8 u just use double sided tape on half the esc and prop it against motor over the centre shaft

mattym0310 27-05-2008 03:02 PM

or you can make a little lexan platform from the servo, over the prop shaft, and double side it to the chassis on the other side, if that makes sense??

tobbe 27-05-2008 03:13 PM

Pictures when a GTB is mounted in a Pred on the servo please. I tried it on my Pred but it's impossible to make the shell fit then.

footey 27-05-2008 03:15 PM

no m8 i have done it have u taken the little black spacers out from under the fan as this will help also is ur shell fasten by clips or velcro as the velcro sits the shell slightly higher

tobbe 27-05-2008 04:57 PM

I don't have a fan and the body is fasten with clips;)

Edit: oOps, I missed this

Quote:

Originally Posted by footey
basically m8 u just use double sided tape on half the esc and prop it against motor over the centre shaft


Belsten 27-05-2008 07:45 PM

Its also pretty easy to mount a low profile servo on its end and fit the gtb on the chassis. Im runnin the micro spektrum receiver also on the chassis. PT slots in no problem too

Tom3012 27-05-2008 08:59 PM

lowie... you need an X11 spur gear my friend! the old X10 ones are incorrectly manufactured (something to do with the pitch and the amount of teeth)... i do like your speedo mount though, nicely done!!...

all i did with min was got some 3mm plastic off ebay... cut out 2 small squares (one a bit larger than the other) stuck them together then stuck the to the servo with the larger square overlapping the prop shaft..

hope that makes sense?

Tom

Lowie 27-05-2008 09:12 PM

Well, I thought of doing a similar thing, but my low-profile servo made this a bit difficult.
Also, with the use of aluminium I got an extra cooling aid ... so I went for the metal plate.
And last argument: I know double-side tape can be very strong and mine is fine but not that strong and I want to minimize risks, so I prefer everything bolted.

About the spurgear: untill now, I haven't had any problems with the original spur, but I do have two white ones (X11-ones offcourse) in my spare-box. For the moment I'm still training and tuning but the moment I decide to drive in competition, I will certainly change this spur.

I have done some completely other competition on an international level (nothing comparable with RC: archery) and I know that it is in those very tense moments, that errors, little failures in equipment can cost much. So I always try to go on the safe side, I guess. Optimal preparation makes driving on the track less stressy and easier, I think :)

rcracer 27-05-2008 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowie (Post 128000)
I did some little modifications on my pred in order to get all my electrics into the chassis without space-issues.

I wrote a little building-article on the-pred.co.uk but here are some pics allready.

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...06_320x240.JPG

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...08_320x240.JPG

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...10_320x240.JPG


for more info, see the linked article on the-pred.co.uk

looks like a real sturdy platform for your esc :thumbsup: , i'm sure zedman did something similar

mattym0310 27-05-2008 09:23 PM

no he just bent a peice of metal into a Z shape and glued or velcro'd it to the chassis next to the servo so the esc sits on top of the servo. if that makes sense?

rcracer 27-05-2008 09:49 PM

oh right i sort of see what you mean :lol:

Tom3012 27-05-2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowie (Post 128232)
Well, I thought of doing a similar thing, but my low-profile servo made this a bit difficult.
Also, with the use of aluminium I got an extra cooling aid ... so I went for the metal plate.
And last argument: I know double-side tape can be very strong and mine is fine but not that strong and I want to minimize risks, so I prefer everything bolted.

About the spurgear: untill now, I haven't had any problems with the original spur, but I do have two white ones (X11-ones offcourse) in my spare-box. For the moment I'm still training and tuning but the moment I decide to drive in competition, I will certainly change this spur.

I have done some completely other competition on an international level (nothing comparable with RC: archery) and I know that it is in those very tense moments, that errors, little failures in equipment can cost much. So I always try to go on the safe side, I guess. Optimal preparation makes driving on the track less stressy and easier, I think :)

totally understand where your coming from lowie and i do like your plate!! good to hear you have the X11 spurs ready too!

Northy 28-05-2008 07:47 AM

Mmmmmm, there wasn't that much wrong with the X10 spur gears to be fair, I did at least a whole season on one! It's all about the meshing IMHO.

G

Alfonzo 28-05-2008 11:59 AM

One more for the pot - I mounted my speedo directly on the chassis, but this required one of the servo ears to be cut, leaving the remaing ear and servo tape to do the job (which it has, no problems). Not totally ideal, but it does result in a very low C of G - which is nice.

Both me and my brother have had failed X10 spur gears, although we got a fair bit of racing done before failure, maybe half a season or so. FYI the X11 spur gear will rub on the 'Jesus Pin' rear brace unless you file / dremel some ally away.

Looking forward to hearing more about these 'high volume' shocks being tested..

Alfonzo 28-05-2008 12:02 PM

And whilst I'm here - I've just remembered, wasn't there a nicely executed mod from a French guy who mounted his servo 'end on' (i.e standing upright) which gave him loads of space to mount the speedo directly to the chassis? It looked good.

footey 28-05-2008 01:10 PM

yes but lewis owner of xtreme has also done it

Lowie 28-05-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfonzo (Post 128384)
And whilst I'm here - I've just remembered, wasn't there a nicely executed mod from a French guy who mounted his servo 'end on' (i.e standing upright) which gave him loads of space to mount the speedo directly to the chassis? It looked good.

You mean like this?

http://ludodg.com/RC/Predator/ESC-mo...94_640x480.JPG

jeff jenkins 28-05-2008 03:49 PM

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i have also got my gtb mounted on the chassis and my servo is standing up.

Alfonzo 28-05-2008 05:50 PM

Yeah - that's the one Lowie. Just read your full post on the-pred, so I know the score with your setup now. Surprised you had thermal issues with the Mamba though.

Jeff - how you getting on with your Pred? Used it in anger yet?

jeff jenkins 28-05-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfonzo (Post 128541)

Jeff - how you getting on with your Pred? Used it in anger yet?

what do you mean..lol

footey 28-05-2008 06:21 PM

have u actully raced it yet:) i think he means

jeff jenkins 28-05-2008 06:32 PM

nope waiting on parts. takes awhile to get them to me.:(

ads0021 28-05-2008 07:02 PM

I've got my low profile servo on its side. Loads of room!! Been running it like this for a few months now with no probs!



http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/nif20...s/OOP_6820.jpg

darryl 28-05-2008 07:19 PM

that is bloody neat what servo posts you using???

mattym0310 28-05-2008 07:52 PM

Its Lewis' car. I believe it's custom made. Team Xtreme were planning on releasing a conversion kit for this however, I havnt heard anything more of this so cannot confirm if it will happen

Alfonzo 28-05-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff jenkins (Post 128544)
what do you mean..lol

lol - I meant have you used it yet, not are you angry yet! :D

ads0021 28-05-2008 08:50 PM

I used a short servo post mounted sideways onto the side of the tub on the outside and a cut down motor mount tube(ally one not the stainless one) on the inside. Then drill and counter sink the chassis where you want the servo to go. It does made a lot more space. The photo doesn't really show. I think you could probably get a normal size spectrum rec in. The other thing I've done is run the speedo wires out the bottom of the speedo and through the spine in the chassis.

Chequered Flag Racing 02-06-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ads0021 (Post 128563)
I've got my low profile servo on its side. Loads of room!! Been running it like this for a few months now with no probs!



have you opened up the chassis to lower the servo even further?

seen a picture somewere with that done but can't find it




Quote:

mattym0310,
Its Lewis' car. I believe it's custom made. Team Xtreme were planning on releasing a conversion kit for this however, I havnt heard anything more of this so cannot confirm if it will happen
any news on a conversion kit ?

jeff jenkins 02-06-2008 03:17 PM

really there is no need for a conversion kit as it is simple to make the mounts your self. its a matter of drilling holes.. but it would be nice if there was so that way you have the correct mounts and not have to make them yourself.:thumbsup:

Lowie 02-06-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 129467)
have you opened up the chassis to lower the servo even further?

seen a picture somewere with that done but can't find it
...

"open up the chassis"? What do you mean by this?
Any pictures of this?

about this servo-mount conversion-kit:
indeed very easy to make DIY, but I do know some guys that are VERY good in RC racing but can't screw a nut on a car without breaking some fingers :)
So such a kit can be very handy.

Thinking about it. If anyone wants some, I could make such a kit, by making some fitting special mounting-posts out of plexi. I'll try to make some and make some pictures, lol.

Northy 02-06-2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff jenkins (Post 129569)
really there is no need for a conversion kit as it is simple to make the mounts your self. its a matter of drilling holes.. but it would be nice if there was so that way you have the correct mounts and not have to make them yourself.:thumbsup:

Now are you sure? :confused: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

G

Lee 02-06-2008 03:35 PM

G, he used to be indecisive but now he`s not so sure :woot:


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