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badger5 20-09-2012 07:36 PM

New Serpent 2wd 1/10th buggy coming
 
Just saw this on RC Tech, seems that Serpent is getting into 1/10th off road then.:thumbsup:

http://www.liverc.com/news/announcem...road_buggy%21/


Perhaps we will get a 4wd buggy as well some time.

mark christopher 20-09-2012 08:05 PM

try googling serpent s500, now known as the durango 410...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=se...w=1280&bih=911


http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/gall...erpentS500.jpg

badger5 21-09-2012 05:14 AM

The Durango/Gerd Strange/Serpent tie up and prototype buggies are well known, but it would be good if Serpent could release 1/10th off road buggies that we can all own and enjoy.

Nas 25-09-2012 11:57 AM

That looks like a EXACT copy of the Durango,nothing seems different.

Aran 25-09-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NASIR (Post 697764)
That looks like a EXACT copy of the Durango,nothing seems different.

Because it is the Durango DEX410, look at the wooden plinth, it has an old Durango logo ;). Something happened and the car was released under the Durango brand

Chequered Flag Racing 25-09-2012 12:12 PM

read the text in the link in first post, especially the TITLE ;)

or if you can't be bothered

Serpent announces new 2wd 1/10 offroad buggy!

Quote:

Serpent announced today that Swedish offroad racer, David Hassel, has joined the Serpent offroad team. Hassel was brought on the team to put his test and racing abilities to work as they made the following statement regarding David's upcoming race plans:

"Winter will be good for running indoor 1/8 and 1/10 offroad and also some indoor carpet racing with 411.
As soon as Serpent's next big project, the 2wd 1/10 buggy will be ready, he will test and race that as well..."

We are anxious to see and hear more of this new Serpent 2wd 1/10 buggy. Many were skeptical of the "onroad known" company jumping into the offroad scene several years back, however, they have proved with race wins worldwide that they have the knowledge and development to build race winning machines on carpet, asphalt, AND dirt.

We have been told that the 2003 IFMAR 2wd World Champion and team driver, Billy Easton, is the main man behind the development and project of the buggy.


Stay tuned for more details...

pieterke 27-09-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aran (Post 697768)
Something happened and the car was released under the Durango brand

Serpent went broke and had to sell the project...
After that a few people (with money) got serpent restarted

That's the history lesson for today :)

Nas 30-09-2012 10:25 PM

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...at_success.jpg

Origineelreclamebord 07-10-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pieterke (Post 698681)
Serpent went broke and had to sell the project...
After that a few people (with money) got serpent restarted

That's the history lesson for today :)

Can you imagine what brand Serpent could have been if they did have just enough money to get the 410 intro production... Or what sad end the 410 could have had due to that, with a company going bust just when they put out that extraordinary car (I am not that convinced the first series of DEX410 was actually that profitable so it probably wouldn't have saved the brand right off, if a single model could do that at all).

Anyway, cool to see they're also working on a 2WD! :thumbsup: I just hope it's something different and unique, and with a good looking shell! (Please Serpent, take Tamiya's late 80s and early 90s buggies as an inspiration) :p

rcrcman 15-10-2012 03:54 AM

:p What a story behind Gerd and Serpent... what a guy! lol

stegger 28-11-2012 06:19 PM

Double post

stegger 28-11-2012 06:39 PM

A bit more news here.

http://www.area52.cc/news/3081-serpe...2wd-buggy.html

PaulUpton 29-11-2012 09:07 AM

Cool. Can't wait for more details :)

budgio 26-01-2013 07:07 PM

http://www.serpent.com/news/13637/Sc...road-cars.html

Chequered Flag Racing 31-01-2013 09:47 AM

some pictures here
http://www.rc-news.de/01/2013/spielw...-spyder-srx-2/

Ron Burgundy 01-02-2013 07:43 AM

I know there will be a lot of Serpent fans saying this is awesome...

But...... Is it just me or does this look not so special... The only thing to really make this car slightly worse is wood screws... It looks cheap and nasty, and for a car to be debuted, jesus make the wiring at least presentable!

Not impressive at all.

Origineelreclamebord 01-02-2013 04:11 PM

Ron, I agree that it is not as unique and progressive as one might hope - especially being a newcomer in a class. And sure, Serpent should seriously regret not entering the 1/10 offroad scene a few years back with their brand name on the DEX410...

However, things don't need to be wild, unique and special to become successful. If they've done their homework, most people can squeeze good performance out of the car, it will be easy to work on and tough as nails. For a car suitable for the masses, you need those points. For a car that appeals to the masses, you need those points that make the car unique...

SimonW 01-02-2013 08:19 PM

looks like a xxx with losi BB's on, not impressed.

Rayzerp 02-02-2013 09:13 AM

Yep...looks dated and poorly finished....initial impressions not good.

johnboy 02-02-2013 09:34 AM

The car is a preproduction model. People going on about it looking dated what would you do different? You can't reinvent the wheel. This car will be a good quality solid 2wd buggy.

mark christopher 02-02-2013 10:13 AM

Mid motor! , the s500 was a pre production prototype in the picture, far better finish, and prep. Guess the test will be in marketing and spares back up too though

johnboy 02-02-2013 10:25 AM

Again a comment made in the b4.2 thread why would a company make mid car for the smaller uk market when the USA market is so much bigger and rear motor suited to there tracks. Yes I would have liked mid motor but is what it is. The s500 comment yeah agree but that car had been round for years before that pic.

mark christopher 02-02-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboy (Post 740784)
Again a comment made in the b4.2 thread why would a company make mid car for the smaller uk market when the USA market is so much bigger and rear motor suited to there tracks. Yes I would have liked mid motor but is what it is. The s500 comment yeah agree but that car had been round for years before that pic.

losi usa mid or rear
Hobao far east mid or rear
durango uk mid or rear
schumacher mid or rear car
assocoiated rear, uk conversion used all over europe
tamiya, far east uk conversion used over europe
Xfactory worldwide

think you may find its not just the uk market!

TomHow 03-02-2013 02:04 PM

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Here are some pics from the show, my friend is a Serpent Distributor here in Turkey and he sent these to me. Thought you may be interested...

Origineelreclamebord 03-02-2013 11:06 PM

Like I said earlier, it's indeed not a special car on the exterior so far but seriously guys, it doesn't deserve so much negativity - especially not just because it's not mid-motor.

Rear-motor is still the benchmark for many tracks, and also for off-track use/bashing... Because it's unlikely with the amazing growth of 2WD offers in the last few years that Serpent could snatch a large piece of that market share in racing whatever the car they release, I think they're taking the less extravagant approach :)

AfroP 19-02-2013 08:50 PM

looks alright that

dont see why it needs mid motor.

plenty rear motor B4's at the indoor, carpeted track where I race and they do quite well

no mid motor option could simply mean that they are trying to keep development costs down to enter the market with a competitive price point

johnboy 01-05-2013 07:49 PM

Serpent 2wd plans Mid motor
 
http://rcspecial.com/news/?p=127285 Plans for a Mid motor and 2wd sct

mark christopher 01-05-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboy (Post 740784)
why would a company make mid car for the smaller uk market when the USA market is so much bigger and rear motor .

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboy (Post 770567)
http://rcspecial.com/news/?p=127285 Plans for a Mid motor and 2wd sct

duno why would they :confused:

johnboy 01-05-2013 09:10 PM

Change the record mark your boring now. Trying to bring up old stuff over and over again

Origineelreclamebord 01-05-2013 09:59 PM

Just thinking about it, Serpent might be doing some clever work on the timing on the background. They've given themselves a good amount of time to get the bugs out and improve/mod the chassis. I don't know what team drivers they have, but if they can drive themselves in the picture and release a rear motor and simultaneously or shortly after a mid motor, they've really done their homework! :)

To be honest I'm not expecting anything crazy, but a solid car, price and decent result from team drivers is enough to establish your brand in the scene :thumbsup: I will be watching their progress!

dpackster1980 11-05-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origineelreclamebord (Post 770631)
Just thinking about it, Serpent might be doing some clever work on the timing on the background. They've given themselves a good amount of time to get the bugs out and improve/mod the chassis. I don't know what team drivers they have, but if they can drive themselves in the picture and release a rear motor and simultaneously or shortly after a mid motor, they've really done their homework! :)

To be honest I'm not expecting anything crazy, but a solid car, price and decent result from team drivers is enough to establish your brand in the scene :thumbsup: I will be watching their progress!

Good point its coming up to the World Championships this so they're developing a car to compete. They had financial issues not so long ago and can't afford to throw money at everything. I suspect that they are trying show the world (and not narrow minded people that are upset because it can't be mid motor) what they can do so they can build a name for themselves globally in the likes of the USA where 2wd is at it's most popular.

Then after the Worlds they'll look at Europe so a mid motor car probably will be on the agenda at some point when they can afford it unlike other manufacturers bought out by the major distributor companies and have gone to crap because they are doing too many projects at once.

Look at Yokomo no one distributed them until they brought out a mid motor car and then people are taking notice and selling them.

Good on Serpent. :thumbsup:


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