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Aussie Top Force 02-09-2012 11:11 AM
502X Upgrade set
 
Found this on Tamiya USA Website:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=84310 :eh?:

Anybody know what it is or have some images?

taomo 12-09-2012 05:06 PM
Want images too :drool:

Turd 17-09-2012 05:37 PM
I have seen the CAD images. The top decks are stiffer, like what Leeroy was testing at Reedy. The rear tower is also 3mm taller and thicker, again, what Lee was already testing.
New inner toe blocks to increase rear toe. They look the same.
The camber mod is a little different. It looks like a Rudebits mod, but all one piece aluminum with no carbon fiber. Four pieces total.

kentech 27-09-2012 07:42 AM
4 Attachment(s)
TRF502X Upgrade...

Aussie Top Force 27-09-2012 11:21 AM
Thanks Kentech,

I guess the question is whether the set is worth cost? I have the Rudebits camber link set, the sway bar set and aluminium centre shafts. So how much difference will the new upper chassis decks make and the new rear shock tower? There are also the rear suspension lower mount adjustments and the centre shaft universals. Mmmmmmm....:eh?:

I guess it answers that question of 502X or 511X, i.e. which one is TRF developing. Will be interesting to see if TRF brings out anything for the 511 in the future.

Chris 27-09-2012 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Top Force (Post 698488)
Thanks Kentech,

I guess the question is whether the set is worth cost? I have the Rudebits camber link set, the sway bar set and aluminium centre shafts. So how much difference will the new upper chassis decks make and the new rear shock tower? There are also the rear suspension lower mount adjustments and the centre shaft universals. Mmmmmmm....:eh?:

I guess it answers that question of 502X or 511X, i.e. which one is TRF developing. Will be interesting to see if TRF brings out anything for the 511 in the future.
Please note that the sway bar is 1.4 mm and is not included in the 501x sway bar set.

GRIFF55 27-09-2012 09:13 PM
I'm pretty sure I have read somewhere that a 511 upgrade kit is out soon.

DavidAMS 27-09-2012 09:46 PM
re
 
Mr Lee Martin seems to be using most of the upgrade kit on his car, going by the photo on the Rudebits site, i think the usefull bits would the shock tower and the rear suspension mounts, they probly would realease just the parts seperate later, i see some of them already on the stella site under the db02 section.

The package price works out pretty cheap for what you get considering tamiya prices, plus its tamiya bling and thats hard to resist...

I want :D

traffman 27-09-2012 10:22 PM
Ive ordered the kit from Stella , 86 quid all in !

trowta 28-09-2012 01:12 AM
I have it on now and it looks killer

Chris 28-09-2012 08:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trowta (Post 698732)
I have it on now and it looks killer
pictures?

traffman 28-09-2012 12:18 PM
I think everyone's ordered one .

The Stella site hasn't any piccies of the kit in stock now!

Aussie Top Force 29-09-2012 12:07 PM
I just ordered one from Stella. Was still in stock at the time!:)

Mmmm, wonder if Tamiya will respond to the Team Associated's B44.2? Bigs Bores and +8mm chassis? +8mm 511's and 502's?????:eh?:

taomo 02-10-2012 02:42 PM
I ordered one from Stella too, hope it will arrive soon ^^

traffman 02-10-2012 03:40 PM
At the end of the day it's all fashion .

I have never an big bores and prob never will unless they come with a future kit.

trowta 03-10-2012 06:08 AM
well I did I whole bunch of testing and I have to say the upgrade chassis kit and the new steering assembley have transferred this car from a good one to a great one, I was really impressed with the increase in turn in and mid cnr push is non existant now, very impressed, now looking forward to see what the 511 kit will include

mes 03-10-2012 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by traffman (Post 700129)
At the end of the day it's all fashion .

I have never an big bores and prob never will unless they come with a future kit.
I'd say it depends on your race track. You'll probably not need big bores if your track is smooth. Thanks to some stupid rabbits, our astro track isn't any more, in fact there is a big pot hole in the last third of our straight. My Yoke handles that hole way better with the big bores and lands much smoother when jumping too far, without being overdamped as it would be with heavier shock oil. Big bores FTW! :thumbsup:

Airwave 05-10-2012 10:05 PM
Got mine today, very interesting set of pieces... But I will have to wait to check the new behavior of the car...

traffman 06-10-2012 12:18 AM
Just finished building mine , pics up sometime soon.

traffman 07-10-2012 11:09 AM
My 502.2 is finished but my darling wife has pinched the iphone lead so i will post a pic when she returns from the Airport!

traffman 07-10-2012 11:58 AM
502.2 x
You get the idea....

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...n/IMG_0896.jpg

Airwave 08-10-2012 10:03 PM
Quick Galaxy S3 pictures...

There is the trf502x 2012 version:
http://t.imgbox.com/acyr0quK.jpg http://t.imgbox.com/adsi9F9u.jpg http://t.imgbox.com/ackkjE9j.jpg http://t.imgbox.com/acbQLMcZ.jpg http://t.imgbox.com/abzupanu.jpg

kidcongo 08-10-2012 11:47 PM
Seems kinda redundant at this point to buy the original 502X kit and then buy the steering upgrade and the chassis upgrade. You end up with a lot of wasted parts. They should at this point just release a TRF 512 and get it over with for anyone who is planning on a purchase. Steering upgrade, chassis upgrade, and maybe some other bling included.

Chris 09-10-2012 07:52 AM
The new schocktower in the TRF502X upgrade set is a big improvement!

Airwave 09-10-2012 03:08 PM
why?

Chris 09-10-2012 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airwave (Post 702340)
why?
Countersunk holes which gives better acces to the rudebits or tamiya camber link attachment screws. :)

Tweaky 09-10-2012 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 702344)
Countersunk holes which gives better acces to the rudebits or tamiya camber link attachment screws. :)
It's also taller, and narrower!
Helps with the droop/driveshaft situation, and gives a bit more on full bounce.

Chris 09-10-2012 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweaky (Post 702396)
It's also taller, and narrower!
Helps with the droop/driveshaft situation, and gives a bit more on full bounce.
And gives the possibility to use longer springs, like the tamiya springs ;)

Airwave 11-10-2012 10:26 AM
Ok thx, nothing I did not think about...

The new swaybar is quite impressive, too...

Chris 11-10-2012 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airwave (Post 702854)
Ok thx, nothing I did not think about...

The new swaybar is quite impressive, too...
It's the same swaybar as used on the TRF417 (X).
For carpet racing i use this swaybar (1.4 mm) front and rear. :thumbsup:
It's also available in 1.1mm, 1.2mm, 1.3mm, 1.5 mm and 1.6 mm

DavidAMS 14-10-2012 05:24 PM
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Anyone notice that the rear diff can't be accessed without removing the tower.. ?

Aussie Top Force 15-10-2012 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidAMS (Post 703776)
Anyone notice that the rear diff can't be accessed without removing the tower.. ?
If you were using the Rudebits camber link, the same problem existed. I prefer the upgrade set option as it is much less 'fiddly'.

taomo 20-10-2012 07:58 PM
The upgrade set arrived yesterday and I take some photos:
http://i.imgur.com/IQfkO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rmn7T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xCTEa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oQ1zR.jpg

Airwave 22-10-2012 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Top Force (Post 703981)
If you were using the Rudebits camber link, the same problem existed. I prefer the upgrade set option as it is much less 'fiddly'.
Actually you can, but you have to unscrew half the 4 screws, pull the diff cover, then unscrew totally the 4 screws...

It is totally possible... Diff access was a pain in the as* and it does not improve at all!

traffman 22-10-2012 11:47 PM
My first outing at Ayr with the new set up was really very good.

Very neutral nice smooth and decent traction .
You certainly feel the stiffer set up , the camber links are less fiddly than the rudebits.

Rudebits links are fine but the bling of the blue just gets an extra vote.

DavidAMS 23-10-2012 06:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airwave (Post 706567)
Actually you can, but you have to unscrew half the 4 screws, pull the diff cover, then unscrew totally the 4 screws...

It is totally possible... Diff access was a pain in the as* and it does not improve at all!
not with the new shock tower..

Arn0 09-11-2012 04:07 AM
Editable Setup Sheet with 84310 Upgrade Set is now available.
Feel free to provide feedback (preferably by PM or email) if any mistake appears or improvements to suggest.

Airwave 09-11-2012 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidAMS (Post 706590)
not with the new shock tower..
I do that this weekend... No problem with that.

I begin to unscrew the front screws (about 5 turns, until they are touching the carbon fiber) then unscrew totally the rear screws.

Once done, you can continue unscrewing the front ones, and finally the upper cell comes off...

DaveG28 22-01-2013 09:01 AM
Guys, with the new rear tower can you run without any limiters in the rear shocks?

Chris 22-01-2013 10:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 736230)
Guys, with the new rear tower can you run without any limiters in the rear shocks?
Depends which hole you run at the whisbone:

inner hole --> 2mm limiter
middle hole --> no limiter
outer hole --> run the old shocktower


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