Vega B4.1 Gen II
 

Hi All,

Here is my setup from Kiddy.

Clearly i've not done much testing with the car yet, but this seemed to be a really good starting point from which i will work from.

Front
Oil: 37.5
Piston: Associated 2 Piston
Spring: Big Bore Losi Green
Shock Position:
Inside on the wishbone
Second hole on the tower
Camber Link:
Inside on the tower
Shortest link on the Hub
2mm under the bump steer washer position
Brass bulkhead

Rear
Oil: 30
Piston: Associated 1 Piston
Spring: Big Bore Losi Pink
Shock Position:
Inside on wishbone
Middle on tower
Camber Link:
Second from top on the longest (inside) hole
Middle on the standard 0 degree rear hubs (turned around the make the camber link a bit straighter)
Short Wheelbase
4 degree's antisquat
3.5 degree's toe in

Motor: Tekin 7.5
Speedo: Tekin RS Pro
Gearing: 26/81

I think that's about it.

Anymore questions, then please ask either by PM or in here.

What settings you running on your Tekin Danny?

:thumbsup:Attached is the file from Speedo.

Probably best for you to have a look for yourself

Danny

Cheers for the set up :thumbsup:

What brand of oil do you use??

Losi.

That's pritty stiff isn't it...what were you running in c4.1 compared to this?
This is a wet setup also wasn't ran in the dry at all but shouldn't make too much difference.
What did you think compared to the c4.1 mate?
Gaz

Na, i dont think it was that stiff to be honest. Its pretty normal to be fair compred to the centro.

I actually ran the same setup for both, not by choice as it started raining when i was out but i dont think i would change much as it was if anything better in the wet than it was in the dry.

Compared to the centro i thought it was much easier. It was more consistant, i guess its due to the wheelbase, as its 14mm longer than the standard car. The chassis is stiff and doesnt flex so im thinking that this mean any mechanical changes are direct and doesnt get nunified by the twist in the chassis.

Now ive only used it on one track but i really liked it. We've already go some things i'd like to try but nothing thats special, i guess thats just the normal process of trying new things out.

Danny

Tekin zip file
 

Hi Danny

Can you tell me how to open the file for your tekin setup please


VRG1

Cheers pal

What tyres did you try and run?
If ballistics did you run 2wd fronts or 4wd?

Gaz

add .rs to the end of the filename, so it reads 7.5_2wd_Danny_McGee.rs
then open it in the tekin hotwire program.

Hi Gaz,

I was using yellow rears when it was dry with slim staggers on the front.

As soon as it got wet i put on green ballistics, 2wd fronts.

No rows off any of the tyres.

Basic stuff then tyre wise ok
Did you use any weight????
Vts fitted?
Kit shell?

Cheers bud

Brass bulkhead
vts - not idea what that is. So guess not (the new slipper?)
Na, i had a new prototype shell that extreme are doing soon.

Gearing for 6.5T LRP b4.1 vega gen1
 

Hi can anybody help me with gearing 6.5T LRP on a medium technical track.
Vrg1

Any indoor set ups yet Danny?
Gaz

My B4.5 is getting kind of tired and I don't want to spring for a completely new kit since I know once I do, a B5 is around the corner. (A friend is an Engineer at AE) and its likely something could be coming soon.
(I got burned when I finally got a screaming deal on a NIB 44.1 and 3wks later the 44.2 was released!!! :mad::mad::wtf:)

Have had my eye on a Vega, just because its different. Curious if anyone has any comparisons between it and the X-Factory car? They run with some success N of me here in the US, but again, I mainly contend with Kyosho, AE, Losi, Team C, Tamiya and Durango. I just want to try something that no one else runs. Though it will give me a disadvantage with little US support, but perhaps the brethren would be able to enlighten me about setups.

I race primarily on indoor clay track with high traction with my 17.5 2wd buggy. I know most of you folk are astro and carpet, but does ANY clay/Dirt tracks exist?


MOmo

We have a new dirt track here in the uk,
But I don't know if anyone uses mid motor cars there!?
The track is RHR Dirt
It's ment to be ace, bit I've never been

No new updates?

No one has posted it, but i was wondering if anyone uses the JCo or AE steering rack upgrade? Wasn't sure if it fit in the car or not, but since the front is mainly AE, I thought it might transfer easily.

Also, (since the only Mid cars i have seen run here are the losi 22 and the Xfactory cars..., does anyone know if similar setups from Xfactory transfer to the Vega?) Has anyone ran both and how do they compare? I REALLY REALLY want to get one soon, but being a fish out of water when it comes to this car and this type of configuration for indoor Blue Groove Clay tracks. I know several racers up N who run the X-factory car and I considered borrowing some of their setup ideas if it will help move me in the right direction.


MOmo

I'm using the avid steering rack on my car as are a few other vega drivers, great addition to the car. As to it being used in dirt no reason why not if the X6 works.

In the uk we are on high grip astro and carpet etc, have a look at some set ups on petit Rc and maybe some dirt set up there?

Or use the B4 dirt set up and tune from there??

Yeah I agree. My base set-up last year for outdoor astro tracks was identical to the X-6 astro base set-up on their site.... so X-6 dirt setup would have to be a good place to start. I think i have seen on here somewhere that a couple of guys used the Vega RB5 on dirt at the Euro's a couple of years ago and worked ok??

I have run both the X6 and the Vega B4.
One of the reasons why the X6 works on dirt is because it generates grip through body roll and chassis flex. It feels very safe to drive although it feels a bit cumbersome in high grip conditions. Still a good car though.
The Vega chassis has no flex at all and on high grip tracks it changes direction faster making it feel very nimble and accurate to drive.
It isnt so good when the grip is low though. Wet grass and polished floor racing is hard going and getting the power down can be an issue.
I dare say you could get the Vega going on dirt/clay but it wouldnt be able to keep up with the rear motor cars.

I appreciate the info.

The guy up N who runs the Xfactory usually IS in the top 5 at most major races and seems to have a pretty good handle on the car. The faster guys are usually team drivers.

It would be interesting to try it. I know most of the euro guys are running on carpet and turf, but seeing some similarities with the X cars and Vega, I thought there could be some carryover.


I want a car that i can drive hard and that will corner well. the MR setup intrigues me. Anyone have insight with the Centro, is it like the others too?



MOmo

Buy yourself a B4.1 worlds +8mm car.

I still might. My b4 has been thru several transformations and it might be nice to start fresh. I think I will always have a B4 of some sort in my arsenal, just looking to break from the norm.



MOmo

Never driven a Centro but i know from comparing side by side that the chassis has a lot more flex than the Vega. I have seen people pull out thier B4.1 to replace mid motor on wet astro though so not sure how it would work on dirt....would be interesting to find out!

Vega B4.1 gen1 was nearly impossible to drive on clay. Tried several times, then switched back to B4.1. Again in winter tried vega and it's stunning on high traction!

Explain how it's tougher to drive? Sorry, it's all I've known, other than outdoor dirt, which tends to be a tad looser. I have only seen footage from turf and carpet racing. It does look fun though.



Momo

We race Vega/x6/centro/22 on polished wood
They are fine against rear motor cars

Too true Mr Rebel! The winning car at our club 2wd championship was a Vega B4 Gen 1.

The best mods we found for low grip were 3.5 deg total rear toe in, 80-100g weight under the lipo and increase the anti squat shims to 2-3mm.

Silver springs all round with 2# pistons 35wt Front and 1# piston 30wt Rear was pretty good from memory.

Finnish outdoor tracks are like ones one worlds 2011, but with weaker bite and more bumby. Nobody runs midmotor here at summer.

The problem was always, that on exiting corner, the rear loses bite (without warnig). I like vega, but only at indoor tracks, without so much little roughness on the track.