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MathewMi2 11-05-2008 10:49 AM

Experience with the B44?
 
Hello,

I want to buy a B44 but I'm not sure if I should buy it.

Who can tell me his experiences with the B44?

-Durability
-Maintenance
-Handling
-Buildup
-Cheap where? USA Shop
-etc....

Thx for your answers.

Best Regards

Mathieu

Mike Hudson 11-05-2008 11:48 AM

Hi there,
I've owned one since the start of this year and so far its been fantastic no parts have shown any sign of wear yet, all that needs doing every so often is doing the usual checks that nothing has come loose, the only weak part on the car now i'd say is the front shock shafts and front A arms which is a weakness on other cars too as they are first thing to make contact in most crashes, the build is really good it's simple and easy to understand, the handling of the car is very good it's predictable and quick, one upgrade i would buy for it is a front oneway diff which makes it even better in most peoples opinion. A good cheap usa shop to buy from would be losi parts house: http://www.losipartshouse.com/servlet/the-26851/ASC9060-Factory-Team-B44/Detail
Hope this helps
Mike.

MathewMi2 11-05-2008 12:34 PM

Ah yes, LosiPartsHouse is a well known shop.

So the only replacementpart I should buy is the front Arms and Shock shaft?
Maybe you know the Partnumber of the Shock Shafts?

Thx for your experiences.

Best Regards

Mathieu

Mike Hudson 11-05-2008 02:54 PM

http://www.losipartshouse.com/servlet/the-27301/ASC9723-Front-Shock-Shaft/Detail
some people have changed to the older associated shock shafts up front or losi shock front shafts as they are slightly stronger, not sure what else breaks really i havn't broken any other part yet apart from the old style topdecks which have now been strengthened and havn't heard of the new topdecks break:)

MathewMi2 11-05-2008 03:14 PM

Hi,

ok Thx.

Yes I heart about the problem with the Top-deck.
So if I buy a B44 now, the Top-Deck will be the new, stronger Top-Deck?

Best Regards
Mathieu

Mike Hudson 11-05-2008 03:24 PM

yes it should come with the new updated top decks:)

MathewMi2 11-05-2008 06:31 PM

Ok thank you.

Everyone can tell his experiences with the B44 here.


Do it. :)

Best Regards
Mathieu

Rich D 11-05-2008 06:38 PM

If you like it and you can afford it then buy it :D

It got 1st 2nd and 3rd at the world championships so there is nothing wrong with the chassis or its durability.

Mikes information is accurate - there isnt much more to add other than you need to use some small grub screws in the front wishbones to prevent the hinge pins from dropping through and fouling the chassis.

What other information are you after ? A car is only ever as good as the person who controls it which makes the all too often questions of "which is best" etc a little frustrating. ;)

B44&501xRacerEX 11-05-2008 06:59 PM

I raced mine last night. Didnt do too hot though.

A T4 slammed my front end cracking my front shock tower.:mad:

Also after 7 months of running this car my diff case on the rear end
is also cracked.

And another common problem, the washer mod does work, but the
nut on the left side comes loose all the friggin time.:eh?:

I ended up stripping 2 sets of rear rims..I'll post pics later..

It has to be the rear pin that caused this much carnage..

MathewMi2 11-05-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 122673)
there isnt much more to add other than you need to use some small grub screws in the front wishbones to prevent the hinge pins from dropping through and fouling the chassis.

What is meant by this?

Sorry it's not the easiest to understand english for a french guy. xD

Thx for the next few experiences with the B44.:)

Best Regards
Mathieu

ianplimmer 11-05-2008 07:25 PM

i can only say you must totally abuse your b44, ive been running mine for 3 months now and its taken some good tumbles and bounced back for more

as for stripping 2 sets of rear wheels you must NOT of located the pin correctlly

mattym0310 11-05-2008 07:28 PM

Is the wesinator as good as you B44&501xRacerEX?
I don't get how you have broken all those parts

I have seen lots of b44s take beatings and they seem pretty strong, apart from those shock shafts

B44&501xRacerEX 11-05-2008 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattym0310 (Post 122698)
Is the wesinator as good as you B44&501xRacerEX?
I don't get how you have broken all those parts

I have seen lots of b44s take beatings and they seem pretty strong, apart from those shock shafts

Stuff just gets old....I had way too many bad landings with it.

And that T4 hitting me he broke after he hit me, you get what you get.
I'm not a bad driver, it's just being on the track with really terrible drivers
that bother's me. You dont just plow into someone's R/C car..:blush:

I'll just go buy new parts later on I have another car to run anyhow...

Gayo 12-05-2008 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathewMi2 (Post 122694)
What is meant by this?

Sorry it's not the easiest to understand english for a french guy. xD


Mathieu

Same trick in french here :
http://olivierlanglet.free.fr/forum_...ic.php?f=5&t=5

MathewMi2 12-05-2008 01:50 PM

Hehe, thank you.^^

MathewMi2 12-05-2008 02:47 PM

Ok, now I understand it.

Just need a Small M3 Grubscrew to safe the hinge ping.
Sounds easy.:)

Best Regards
Mathieu

Mike Hudson 12-05-2008 03:38 PM

to do this you will also need to shave 2 or 3mm off the hinge pin so the grub screws will fit into the wishbones

dbizzle5 12-05-2008 03:56 PM

or you could just buy the new front wishbones which has a smaller rear hole so the hinge pin cant fall out!!!!??

ashleyb4 12-05-2008 03:58 PM

Mike the new b44 kits come with the hole capped off on the one end of the wishbone so no need for the grub screw mod.

A

Mike Hudson 12-05-2008 05:16 PM

ok ok, i still have the older style wishbones, no point in replacing something if it aint broke :D

Zedman 12-05-2008 06:22 PM

The build from the box
 
The build from the box was very very good, everything fitted perfectly, the whole kit seemed very well thought out, diff and slipper assembly is very straightforward and easy to setup, as recommend in the manual you use the inner mounting holes on the top decks ( this from what club members say avoids nrly all top deck breakages)

As to start point for setting up I was advised to adjust the preload on the front shocks till the front drive shafts are horizontal, then the rear shock preloads till the car is perfectly flat, use this as a base start point and experiment from there.

Breaking and driving comments I will leave to others as I have only had it for about a week but so far I love it and cant fault it ( the front shock shaft I broke was due to hitting a stationary car on the straight so was not too concerned when this was the only damage )

B44&501xRacerEX 13-05-2008 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 122985)
Mike the new b44 kits come with the hole capped off on the one end of the wishbone so no need for the grub screw mod.

A

Yeah I did the shoe goo mod on that part so the front hinge pin wouldnt
make notches in the chassis. People still have this problem.:yawn:

B44&501xRacerEX 16-05-2008 04:40 AM

Had a great time tonight with the B44 since it has a new front shock tower. I also managed to fix the old tower also with some CA glue.

These shock towers last a long time. My old one held up for 5 months.:thumbsup:

This one will last a bit longer than that because my driving skill is improving each week.

MathewMi2 16-05-2008 12:20 PM

Hi,

a solution for your Front Shock Tower xould be the 3,6mm Shock Tower by www.tom-tec.net .^^

Best Regards
Mathieu

B44&501xRacerEX 06-06-2008 02:46 PM

Hitting Reo for the last time tonight with it.
People have been racing T4's as of late, we are having someone's birthday party at reo tonight also.

Until B44's show up, this may be the last time I run a B44 at Reo.

I'll be going back to my Kyosho Twin Force, until I get the E-revo

ashleyb4 06-06-2008 02:53 PM

What are you going to use to hit reo and who is reo poor person if your going to hit him.

A

ben 06-06-2008 02:55 PM

BMag youve got a PM

Northy 06-06-2008 02:56 PM

BMag, you have a pm from me too :thumbsup:

ben 06-06-2008 02:57 PM

owww someone's popular :woot:

B44&501xRacerEX 06-06-2008 03:19 PM

nothing wrong with my B44, I put new shock towers on it.
I got some front A-arms off tower hobbies and they put extra front hinge pins in there for me. Thats awesome!
I put new rear A-arms on the car, yesterday I decided to use Tebo's
setup this time instead of my own.:thumbsup:

B44&501xRacerEX 06-06-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 131108)
What are you going to use to hit reo and who is reo poor person if your going to hit him.

A

I dont plan on wreaking, just gonna pull as many laps as possible.

B44&501xRacerEX 12-06-2008 01:35 AM

My results from June 6th 2008 are in:
Andrew Dewig-chassis-losi XXXTcr 23 laps
B-mag -chassis-B44 FT- 20 laps
Chase Rhinerson -chassis-T4- 14 laps
Kyle Durbin -chassis- T4 8 laps


I got beat by a 22 year old.....so....what....:woot:........lol

Just wait til I get this 2wd truck I ordered, it will level the playing field.
Everyone will have a 2wd truck on the track.
No more being the lone B44 on the track................ :/

sport10 12-06-2008 03:38 AM

You should be turning faster laps with the B44 than electric truck. The 4wd can put the power down better because of its increased traction.

mole2k 12-06-2008 04:03 AM

You do realise that a 2wd car is slower than a 4wd car...

enfieldbanana 14-06-2008 02:51 PM

Munching of teeth???
 
Hey there,

Has any body had an trouble with teeth on the diff gear breaking off???

I've just had to replace my second diff gear in the front of my B44 within two months of having it.

Does anybody know why this could happen and if it is the quality of the plastic used could anybody recommend another manufacturers that would easily fit on the B44??? Hot Bodies???

A

PS: You should whipping those trucks behinds with your B44!!! Shame on you getting beat!!!! Lol

sparrow.2 14-06-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enfieldbanana (Post 133328)
Hey there,

Has any body had an trouble with teeth on the diff gear breaking off???

I've just had to replace my second diff gear in the front of my B44 within two months of having it.

Does anybody know why this could happen and if it is the quality of the plastic used could anybody recommend another manufacturers that would easily fit on the B44??? Hot Bodies???

A

PS: You should whipping those trucks behinds with your B44!!! Shame on you getting beat!!!! Lol

Sounds like you haven't shimmed it properly. Shim the diff closer to the little gear and you should be set. The little pinion might be too far back as well so shimming that forward slightly might help too.

Other manufacturers ring gears don't last longer, the Associated ones are pretty tough.

cjm_2008 14-06-2008 08:51 PM

I bought my b44 fully assembled from a fella - it hadn't been run, and was mint.

the first thing I did was check the drivetrain 'freeness' - old habits die hard, and in the old days of 2000's or 1700's, no one could afford any tight trannys (fnnaarr!). I could roll my TA-04 over 30m with a decent push on a polished floor - it was a party trick :lol:

the b44 transmission felt notchy, and not quite right. with a gentle push on the kitchen floor, the car wouldn't roll further than half a metre.

I got it on the bench and spent a bit of time listening, until eventually i traced the tightness back to the ring gears.

they were shimmed up as per the manual, but they weren't as free as they should be. the 2 shims inside the casing pushed the gear onto the diff, with barely any clearance - so I took them out (front and rear) - and hey presto - one side of the kitchen to the other, and then most of the hallway :)

sparrow.2 14-06-2008 09:27 PM

And hey presto - munched gears on the first outing :woot:

You have to run the drive train in for a run or two and then it frees up. If you take the shims out it won't last for nuts!
When I built one for a friend we ran it in for about two hours with a crappy old motor hooked up to a tester. Leave it tight and see what it says after a couple of runs.

B44&501xRacerEX 15-06-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sport10 (Post 132726)
You should be turning faster laps with the B44 than electric truck. The 4wd can put the power down better because of its increased traction.

Ok that makes sense, but if the person I've been racing has been racing for 20+ years then that anwsers your question.
Some people can pull faster laps than others.

I have went back to 2wd truck, and after picking my 2wd truck up and
B44 up, the 2wd truck is also alot lighter, because the way it's designed. I dont pick my B44 up very much.

I can see my B44 being a faster car than a T4, because I usually can get them
on the straight-a-way.

cjm_2008 15-06-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparrow.2 (Post 133421)
And hey presto - munched gears on the first outing :woot:

You have to run the drive train in for a run or two and then it frees up. If you take the shims out it won't last for nuts!
When I built one for a friend we ran it in for about two hours with a crappy old motor hooked up to a tester. Leave it tight and see what it says after a couple of runs.

I checked last night, and there's just the one shim inside the casing behind the ring gear.

my biggest problem seems to be with wheel nuts at the moment - especially on the LHS front. they seem to loosen themselves under hard braking, and today it cost me 3rd in the a-final :thumbdown:


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