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jimmy 31-07-2012 05:30 PM

Kyosho RB6
 
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/rb601.jpg

No information as yet that I've seen but it looks like Kyosho have joined the mid&rear motor brigade with their new Ultima RB6 - with alloy chassis, big bores and with what looks like a number of different layout options / cell positions possible. The mid motor example shown has the cells far forward but it looks like it's possible to have them much further back and the same goes for the rear motor example.



discothesnake 31-07-2012 06:01 PM

Looks great but will be pricey knowing Kyosho. :bored:

jonathan may 31-07-2012 06:04 PM

yep :o

The Chef 31-07-2012 06:43 PM

Won't be as much as a DB1 though. I see a new car coming. Buy buy conversion stuff.

adam_u 31-07-2012 06:51 PM

some good shots here:

linky

They may have tested 10 bodies in a wind-tunnel to achieve that one, but it aint pretty - I still want it though :thumbsup:

Rebelrc 31-07-2012 07:04 PM

Looks very well executed
:)

i4n 31-07-2012 07:13 PM

I love this quote from the link Adam_u put up "The chassis offers the possibility to use rechargeable batteries as well as stick packs or saddle-shorties" I didn't know they made one shot batteries for RC cars now.....

Fair does to them though, it does look well executed though.

Chris Larner 31-07-2012 07:23 PM

RB6
 
Nice indeed.

Watch the for sale thread get flooded with all variations of the RB5, from standard too Vega and poss a few DB1!

andys 31-07-2012 07:46 PM

Looks very nice.
It's hard to see if the motor is far enough back (in mid config) as the Losi 22 suffered from the motor being too far forward. If this doesn't suffer that problem then it should be a winner.

reg 31-07-2012 07:56 PM

I hope they bring it out soon,get some people running it as i love kyosho stuff,but not enought to struggle with it like the 22,

mikeyscott 31-07-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 679906)
Won't be as much as a DB1 though. I see a new car coming. Buy buy conversion stuff.

Circa £280 is normal price for Kyosho 2WD cars from what I've seen. DB1 is awesome though and mine cost me under £300 due to some nice deals I landed ;) with the conversion cars - ebay bargins!

Does look nice, but also just looks like a Losi 22 at the mo. Get some high quality pics from Kyosho and that'll show the differences. Question is who's going to be sacked for leaking the info...!

PiRo 31-07-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 679951)
Question is who's going to be sacked for leaking the info...!


I guess no one as Kyosho.de released it http://www.kyosho.de/?page=shop%2Ffl...oduct_id=24653

Release day was 1 aug Japan time, so it´s on schedule.

mikeyscott 31-07-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiRo (Post 679953)
I guess no one as Kyosho.de released it http://www.kyosho.de/?page=shop%2Ffl...oduct_id=24653

Release day was 1 aug Japan time, so it´s on schedule.

Ah ok didn't realise it was Japan, but looking forward to seeing it as kyosho quality is awesome

Origineelreclamebord 31-07-2012 11:19 PM

Chassis looks very nice! :) I like how simple and open they've kept the chassis plate, it makes it very easy to try out various layouts yourself without doing any sort of modifications on the car!

I have to say, I even really like the shell except for one thing... Why not make the edge between the roof of the shell and window a bit more rounded? It would've made cab forward bearable for me, I'd even support cab forward if they'd do so! :p

As for the price on Kyosho.de... I hope they're kidding, right? That buys you a lot of different stuff from the competition, and I'm not convinced (yet) that the RB6 will be that revolutionary to justify this kind of difference in price! That said, this is another one on the list of cars to watch! :D Really, if Tamiya doesn't answer to this soon I consider the chance to drive Tamiya again after my 201 has had the best of it's life very, very small! (DEX210, SV2/SVR, RB6, a conversion of sorts... And if they ever release it a B5, the non-metric hardware and the horrid styling on every chassis part is enough to keep me away from the B4/B4.1).

jasonrcb 31-07-2012 11:28 PM

I hate to say this but,i like the look of it myself:woot:and im no kyosho fan

1 question i have though,will the uk team be running this car,or are they sticking with the DB1,as its hardly been out 5 minutes itself

The Chef 01-08-2012 02:27 AM

It looks fantasticly simple. I'm up for one! Order placed��

At the current exchange it works out a sniff over £300 so not that bad.

Any idea how long until the uk gets them?

carlin 01-08-2012 07:36 AM

Ohh I just wee'dd alitte lovely :thumbsup:

dale 01-08-2012 08:54 AM

Like!

Motor is in the correct position (looks to be pretty much where the X6 motor is) so should have good traction. T6 chassis with a brace at the front to stop it bending. Loads of room for radio gear and moving the Lipos around. And Kyosho quality!

Very nice.

And for those of us that don't want to spend £300, there will be some nice cheap RB5 Vegas for sale :thumbsup:

Moose 01-08-2012 10:07 AM

should hit the stores in september.

jon kedge 01-08-2012 01:53 PM

MMMM nice ,but at a price
 
Having raced a rb5 before had nightmare getting spares with so many variations available,Could be tempted(i would be outcasted from our pit area) but i'll stick to my £50 special rear motor.

Dudders 01-08-2012 02:34 PM

Interesting news. Bring the Kyosho back into my price bracket.

adon30 01-08-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 680058)
At the current exchange it works out a sniff over £300 so not that bad.

Have you included import tax and vat in the calculation? If not add £50+ to it.

Looks a nice car. Will be interesting to see if it works on our astro and high grip tracks and how it stands up to the established conversions. I'm sure the kyosho drivers will be busy testing it during the winter.

adon30 01-08-2012 05:05 PM

Double post

Candyman 01-08-2012 05:50 PM

Pretty close..........


http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/2201x.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/rb605.jpg

mikeyscott 01-08-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adon30 (Post 680259)
Have you included import tax and vat in the calculation? If not add £50+ to it.

Looks a nice car. Will be interesting to see if it works on our astro and high grip tracks and how it stands up to the established conversions. I'm sure the kyosho drivers will be busy testing it during the winter.

I was thinking exactly that earlier. I rec it's going to be closer to £400

Darren Boyle 01-08-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 680276)
I was thinking exactly that earlier. I rec it's going to be closer to £400

The VAT on £300 alone would be £60, then import around £9 "if" it had not been factored in, it will work out cheaper in the long run for anyone looking at getting one to source from one of the UK outlets when it arrives...

MikePimlott 01-08-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman (Post 680275)

Yeah, but the motor is deffinately closer to the driveshafts.

RogerM 02-08-2012 07:01 AM

Much closer!!!

elvo 02-08-2012 07:58 AM

...which isn't always better.

Gnarly Old Dog 02-08-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvo (Post 680439)
...which isn't always better.

made me smile. Thank you Elvo:)

AfroP 02-08-2012 03:32 PM

£350 is way way too much for a 2wd buggy imho

footey 02-08-2012 03:39 PM

if your gonna get from abroad and get vat and stuff on might aswell order from MB MODELS on here at 349.99 seems a good offer

jonathan may 02-08-2012 04:40 PM

far too expensive £250 max :thumbdown:

andys 02-08-2012 04:59 PM

Why is the Kyosho stuff so expensive ?

Is it due to the way it's brought into the uk / distributed etc - or is it generally more expensive than other brands worldwide ?

Still - its got to be cheaper than the kit & conversion options when you price up new kits rather than eBay bargains.

MikePimlott 02-08-2012 05:13 PM

Your right Andy, i think its because it comes via FDL in france rather than direct from K.

RogerM 02-08-2012 05:35 PM

Look at the prices in the States ... it's a bit more than most everywhere.
The quality of the components & cars in general are super high so it's a bit like comparing an Audi with a Kia.

Remember that Kyosho stuff is manufactured in Japan to super tight tolerances and that the YEN is quite strong against a lot of other currencies too.

The other thing to remember with Kyosho stuff is that quality means next to no worn out components to replace after many months (sometimes seasons) of running, very few breakages and it's all in the box ... no need to buy loads of upgrades to make it work / be durable (although the hop ups are there if you want them).

There are two reasons why I run Kyosho;

1) as an engineer used to working with sub-micron tolerances no other brand of 1/10th buggy feels 'right' in hand
2) I've very little disposable income, thus couldn't afford to keep replacing bits so I'd rather pay a little more up front to get a solid reliable car (just wish I'd done the same with my electronics too .. live and learn).

Add to that they are great to drive and the higher initial purchase price is soon forgotten ... I mean who the hell "WANTS" a Kia ;-)

Moose 02-08-2012 05:36 PM

the first rb5 had the same price but the newer ones (SP2, SP2WC) had normal prices. Kit price istnt the problem, I bought the RB5 when it came out in the US and paid 30 € more than a B4 would have been, but it is not the biggest fun to look for spare parts and tuning parts in many different countries just because you have to pay twice as much for some parts in any EU shop.

Kyosho stuff in general isnt super expensive looking at the nitro 8 scale stuff ists very reasonable priced aswell as most kits. And not every 2WD spare part is very expensive, just a few parts are far from normal, most plastic parts are cheaper than Losi but most steel parts are more expensive than any other brand

Darren Boyle 02-08-2012 05:39 PM

It is because it is from Japan, a VERY expensive country to buy out of right now sadly, just look at why CML have no Yokomo stuff at present and why the Sanwa Exzes-X is £430 at todays prices. Kyosho stuff is great quality BUT it is also made/sold from one of the dearest countries to export from right now.....

Moose 02-08-2012 06:14 PM

RogerM: I don't think it is very useful to compare rc cars with real cars as most premium real car brands use newest manufacturing techniques and cars are made with different goals in mind. There quite interesting low priced small cars on the market that deliver stunning quality for this market. Toyota Aygo for example isn't produced less intelligent than an Audi.

In RC most brands use average machiney and many companies even use the same factory. The injection point have to be removed on most plastic parts by hand. That is not a problem but shows that Kyosho does surly not have the best machinery in RC (but by far not the worst :D).
The first RB5 needed many tuning parts to make it comparable to others, so I wouldn't speek in general. I couldnt see a difference in wearing between a RB5 and other cars in general (22 for example apart from a few issues the 22 kit has). Differences are really small and in other classes with more different cars there are at least 5 brands with stuff at the same level For me the RB5 has two pros: outstanding shocks and the newest cars eliminated every problem the first cars had.

If it was just the fact it is made in japan than it wouldn't be so cheap to buy parts in Japan on your own. Even cheaper with import taxes and shipping, looking at this it can only be the distributors or distributors have to buy in local japan shops too.

knighthawk 02-08-2012 06:15 PM

The problem is everyone is cash strapped within reason !

Team Losi TLR22 RRP is £215
Tamiya TRF201 RRP is £220
Schumacher SV2 RRP is £220

Kyosho RB6 Rough RRP £340

I've own plenty of Kyosho's back in the day, but I find them no better than any other manufacture when you bare in mind the extra price

Car's will always break if hit hard enough or driven incorrectly
Even the best have accidents and break, so spares are a must, so on top of the kit you've got to add at least £50 of spares hopups etc !

Just think that the extra price isn't justified
But if people want this car they will pay it, so they can keep charging these outrageous prices and get away with it

The DB1 conversion is a prime example, put the car in the right hands, then us mortals are convinced its the best car and a must have no matter the cost !!


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