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John Lara 05-05-2008 01:05 PM

what do you prefere BL or brushed?
 
Like it says BL or brushed?

And what motors & wind do you use?


In my 501 I use a 4,5T BL or a 9X2 V2 motor

bigred5765 05-05-2008 02:06 PM

brushless all the way
any one that tells you any difference is just mad
nosram speedos 6.5 2wd 5.5 4wd

John Lara 05-05-2008 05:01 PM

On a smal track I feel that i have more power with brushed than with BL, I alsoe feel that with BL th power band is diffrent and more top speed:o

bigred5765 05-05-2008 07:23 PM

i would say you have the wrong motor in

losixxx 05-05-2008 07:40 PM

carl you forgot the main part of your first post IMO......!
personally i prefer the feel of a brushed motor have tried both and im sticking with brushed for the time being....especialy after seeing all the problems with brushless and wet racing!!!

Lee 05-05-2008 07:50 PM

I agree with losixxx, i personally prefer the feel of a brushed motor setup, i feel like the brushless motors feel almost flat

I have been tempted to go back to brushed motors again, but i am a bit lazy and like the maintenance free side of things

ashleyb4 05-05-2008 08:12 PM

I Like brushless in 4wd but in 2wd i think i preffered brushed in 2wd but i preffer the low mainternance so ill get used to it.

A

bigred5765 05-05-2008 08:14 PM

imo your right

Southwell 06-05-2008 07:04 AM

I prefere brushes but ive stuck to brushless and am getting better with it, if i changed back it would only be in 2wd as that motor will be several meetings before skimming.

Lee 06-05-2008 07:34 AM

When i look back, my results have been worse since going brushless, i didnt think it would make much difference to me, maybe it does :confused:

Southwell 06-05-2008 07:37 AM

I find it's the instant power that i don't like, all my punch settings are turned down on brushless whereas on brushed it feels less aggressive.

Wraggy 06-05-2008 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 121372)
I find it's the instant power that i don't like, all my punch settings are turned down on brushless whereas on brushed it feels less aggressive.

im having the same problem Ian, Punch setting on lowest possible using a Novak 6.5L and its still as punchy as hell :(..
might have to go to a 7.5 L see if it changes it ..

Southwell 06-05-2008 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraggy (Post 121375)
im having the same problem Ian, Punch setting on lowest possible using a Novak 6.5L and its still as punchy as hell :(..
might have to go to a 7.5 L see if it changes it ..

Ive turned my curve down by about 30% on my tranny too :lol:

Lee 06-05-2008 07:50 AM

I might try a brushed in my 2wd for Oz:)


Proper retro:woot:

bigred5765 06-05-2008 09:54 AM

i would just say your all to old and slow to drive brushless :)

super__dan 06-05-2008 10:15 AM

Ian and Paul, I've recently kind of found the same and so have started running a 7.5 in 2wd, though on a big track like I expect this weekend to be a 6.5L will be going back in. I prefer to run the 'softer' motor and gear up as I find the motors much more tolerant on high gearing than I originally realised of the recomended overall rations suggest.

I also now run -15% throttle (and steering as it happens) curve, which I too have upped to 30% on occasion.

Southwell 06-05-2008 10:29 AM

I have done the same on my steering curve too, i guess it's a characteristic of brushless? I never went below -10 on my throttle with brushed, and that was only at tivvy!

SHY 06-05-2008 10:31 AM

Well, it's been a bit like "letting the cat outta the bag" / old skool turbo with B/L systems, but it's improving all the time. I found the new Speed Passion GT ESC to be VERY smooth!

B/L in the wet is very critical indeed!

I tried going back to brushed, but I didn't like it now that I'm used to coasting with almost no resistance... which I really like!

B44&501xRacerEX 08-05-2008 02:19 AM

Brushless=NEWER TECHNOLOGY
 
Brushless for me.
Tekin redline 362(9t equilvalent)with an R1 pro.:thumbsup:

Northy 08-05-2008 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B44&501xRacerEX (Post 122017)
Brushless for me.
Tekin redline 362(9t equilvalent)with an R1 pro.:thumbsup:

Why? :confused:

G

5POINTSTAR 15-05-2008 11:13 PM

It depends...
 
For me it depends on the class I race, On or Offroad. Touring stock I prefer the Trinity CO27 PRO Brushed in the EVO 4, you can tweak the motor (more power) but maintenance is nonstop. My 501X has the SPHERE Brushless system :woot: and I love it, the power is INSANE!

bbq 16-05-2008 11:54 AM

I love the BL systems but i run 5 cells and 4.5 or 4.0 in my 501X
With 5 cells you get a powerband that is just amasing.
past weekend i had over 2000 left in my packs i 4wd.

And the balance in the car is beter with 5 cells

B44&501xRacerEX 16-05-2008 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 122038)
Why? :confused:

G

Because I successfully got my B44 beat with the Tekin RedlineTamiya 501x WE.
My B44 is still no slowpoke though.:lol:

After driving the 501x last week, Id say I accomplished my mission to
have my 501x faster than my B44.

The 501x is alot easier to drive, and it has alot better amount of steering
to my B44. I like to drive both cars though.
It's so hard to choose a favorite overall.
I got the 501x for one job(succeed in trophy races)
I got the B44 for club racing because parts are so much easier to get.

After seeing the 501x in action www.reoraceway.com or Reo Raceway will be stocking
in 501x worlds edition kits and parts also. :)

Northy 16-05-2008 03:52 PM

BMag,

You are the man. I am going to take you advice and follow it to the letter.
Thanks.

How did you glue that diff again? And build that other one without some parts in it?

Cheers,

G

B44&501xRacerEX 16-05-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 124585)
BMag,

You are the man. I am going to take you advice and follow it to the letter.
Thanks.

How did you glue that diff again? And build that other one without some parts in it?

Cheers,

G

:bored: my bad

Im installing a front one way, and in the rear pulley I'm gonna run tugsten diff balls. That should solve any diff issues I had in the past.

Northy 16-05-2008 04:09 PM

What balls did you run before?

I run titanium balls in mine.

G


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