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RudeTony 04-05-2012 12:24 PM

Neil Cragg and Paul Bradby to Use RudeBits C4.1 Chassis
 
We are happy to announce the following news

http://www.rcracer.com/off-road-electric-articles-112/3983-rudebits-c41-chassis-for-cragg-and-bradby

The 2011 BRCA 2WD National Champion and runner-up have confirmed that they will be using the new 3.2mm thick carbon fibre chassis on their Centro C4.1 cars. Neil Cragg and Paul Bradby dominated the 2011 series with their Centro conversions for the Team Associated B4.1 and will be using the RudeBits carbon fibre chassis starting with the second round of the 2012 series at Robin Hood Raceway next weekend.

The new chassis shown here has been tweaked and refined and is now made from high-quality 3.2mm thick carbon fibre and retains the 30-degree kick-up, chamfering for the wishbone clearance and milled out slot for the motor. It weighs in 80g lighter than a standard chassis allowing optional weight to be placed where needed...... all this adding up to being better over bumps, jumps and allowing just enough flex without distortion.

bigred5765 04-05-2012 12:42 PM

link doesn't seem to work tony

blue_pinky 04-05-2012 12:49 PM

rcracer.com seems to be down at the mo...

MattADH 04-05-2012 12:55 PM

Sorry guys - the Racer website was being updated in the background and there has been a conflict.

Will add a picture - text is as per Tony's post

Matt

MattADH 04-05-2012 12:57 PM

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MattADH 04-05-2012 01:01 PM

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chassis pic...

MattADH 04-05-2012 01:54 PM

Back online - sorry for the inconvenience...

http://www.rcracer.com/off-road-elec...agg-and-bradby

adey 04-05-2012 02:09 PM

What's wrong with the standard chassis ?. I know that some say it bends and others argue the team guys don't have that problem but I still think that it's an expensive addition to a already expensive car. What are the reasons the team guys have for not using the chassis that comes in the centro kit. The carbon chassis does look great though.

neil75 04-05-2012 05:48 PM

Hey tony when will the new 3.2mm thick chassis be available to order?:thumbsup:

andy05 04-05-2012 06:00 PM

is the new chassis not having the recessed brass weights under the servo and lipos?

RudeTony 04-05-2012 06:25 PM

Hi yah

The 3.2mm chassis is available now
http://www.rudebits.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=359

There won't be any milled out parts and is 80g lighter than the kit one, so you have that 80g to put where you like without making the car too heavy.... :)

Richard Lowe 04-05-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adey (Post 651383)
What are the reasons the team guys have for not using the chassis that comes in the centro kit.

Not everyone is changing at least AFAIK, it's just another option to pursue :)

tony12795 04-05-2012 10:25 PM

I wonder if CML will explain why there top two drivers are using a after market chassis, which is surpost to be one of the key parts of the car?

I think the chassis has a 25 degree kick up, not 30

Tony

RudeTony 05-05-2012 06:45 AM

Tony man, you have amended your original post and I am glad but you suprise me with your comments about CML .....
They made a very good conversion kit and Neil, Paul and Tom finished with a 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the UK championships with that very conversion.....in my opinion, that makes your critism harsh to say the least......and congratulations to those lads and CML

I will re-post here what I posted in the other section where really the subject was about the chassis bending and so on....and please note our chassis is not to counteract bending, it's been an option from word go as we feel it is better over bumps, over jumps, it's lighter, it generates more grip and looks sexy too :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 651403)
There is nothing wrong the standard C4.1....... If there was no development in our sport then Neil Cragg would still be using the gold tub associated car. Unfortunatetly at the sharp end of competition, it never stands still and this is simply the next stage......
Luckily enough available for everyone :)


tony12795 05-05-2012 09:13 AM

My comments in the original post were a bit harsh and that post was only up for 2 mins mate and after reading it fully i relised that, this why I removed it. Also the Becks I was drinking did bot help.

In no way is this pointed at Rude bits mate, after Market parts are required for better performance.

But my point is yes they did get 1st 2nd and 3rd with the prototype car not with the now released car, is there an issue with the aluminium chassis, this is all am asking and would like them to comment.

Tony

chuckie stella 05-05-2012 08:15 PM

I know people let their tongues run wild on here, but let's just get realistic. This chassis is an optional extra! I think the C4.1 has been proven to work as have ALL Rudebits revolutionary products and what's wrong with trying to make it better combining the two. Like shock towers, Tony P. I was honoured to be sent one of these chassis last week (as Tony is a good friend not because I'm a Cragg/Bradders) and it is very different the way the car reacts with the alloy chassis. Buy one Tony P, you might just like it!
Matt

nicmo 26-05-2012 10:15 AM

humm they dont seem to have used the carbon chassis after checking the pictures from the last BRCA event or have they?

RudeTony 26-05-2012 11:11 AM

You don't seem to have many posts - you are obviously new- introduce yourself....

gazhillAE 26-05-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicmo (Post 658668)
humm they dont seem to have used the carbon chassis after checking the pictures from the last BRCA event or have they?

Ditto!
That's no carbon chassis :thumbsup:

discostu 26-05-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 658680)
You don't seem to have many posts - you are obviously new- introduce yourself....

Why would that make any difference and he has a point no carbon in sight

MHeadling 26-05-2012 09:13 PM

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nicmo 26-05-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 658680)
You don't seem to have many posts - you are obviously new- introduce yourself....

Indeed, i am sorry about that, i might introduce myself soon. I have got one of your chassis for myself, should get here on monday i hope, i am not flaming, just asking.

RudeTony 27-05-2012 05:07 AM

Sorry, don't know your name. Do you have the NEW 3.2mm chassis as designed for Neil and Paul or the original with pockets?

Gaz, Stu, Mark and others, I only state facts Gents.
When you are a superstar driver like Neil, sometimes decisions are made whether a particular part is used at certain meetings for whatever reason, its not relevant to the facts at the time of posting some news.

By the way, Danny McGee is also now running the chassis and once he put it on his car for the finals, he was lapping in the top 3 lap times of the day. Like I said earlier, just facts at the time of posting

arransmith27 27-05-2012 06:02 AM

Handling characteristics of the different chassis' aside, Nicmo made a valid point.

It shouldn't matter how long he's been a member of oople for, whether he has introduced himself or not, or even what his name is.

Personally, i felt the response made towards him was rude and unwelcoming.

gazhillAE 27-05-2012 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arransmith27 (Post 658847)
Handling characteristics of the different chassis' aside, Nicmo made a valid point.

It shouldn't matter how long he's been a member of oople for, whether he has introduced himself or not, or even what his name is.

Personally, i felt the response made towards him was rude and unwelcoming.

Agreed utterly out of order considering all anyone wanted to know was why it wasn't used. An explanation would be nice ;0)

arransmith27 27-05-2012 07:22 AM

Yes, agree

It would have been more positive to explain why the standard chassis was used instead of the RB carbon one.

From how i understand this, the RB carbon chassis is a tuning aid which can be used to gain an advantage when needed.

An explanation would have cleared this up and possibly answered a lot of the questions raised in this thread. This would provide useful info on when to use, conditions to use and performance benefits to be gained over the standard chassis when using the RB one

I'm not trying to have a go, but I think Tony was a bit harsh with his first response to Nicmo.

I've used Rudebits products for a number of years, and have always found the quality and service to be excellent. Can only think that Tony was having a bad with his first response lol

jimmyfish 27-05-2012 03:21 PM

Totally agree, comment was bang out of order. Wots it got to do if your new??

Tony t shame on you!

Think you should apologise! And quickly!

discostu 27-05-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyfish (Post 658899)
Totally agree, comment was bang out of order. Wots it got to do if your new??

Tony t shame on you!

Think you should apologise! And quickly!

Agreed

discostu 27-05-2012 03:36 PM

Anyway carbon or Alu the pros clearly like Alu which is a result it saves me some cash.

Stu.

Adam F 27-05-2012 03:39 PM

Come on... mountain out of molehill springs to mind..!

I too find it a bit odd that a first post from a new user is a real flamer...

Darren Boyle 27-05-2012 06:11 PM

Guys, give Tony a break eh? There is a LOT more to this than meets the eye and is known by the general public....

A deal was done for the guys named at the start of this thread to run the RB chassis and now that they are here and available the "powers to be" who sponsor these chaps have said no to it, as simple as that, is the reason they are not running them.

It would not be the first time on oOple that someone has logged on with a new "ficticous" account and new usename purely to wind someone or a stituation up and I am sure Tony felt this was the case since it was the guys first ever post. I have been with Tont most of the day at the SHRCCC regional and I am sure he will come along and add something approriate when he gets home and has time...

I am not connected to Tony or Rudebits or in any way and in fact often "have words" with the old man myself from time to time (just a few days ago in fact about the qualifying method we chose at the DMS regional last weekend) but please understand there was far more to it than met the eye here on this occassion.......

InsideLineModels 27-05-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Boyle (Post 658932)
Guys, give Tony a break eh? There is a LOT more to this than meets the eye and is known by the general public....

A deal was done for the guys named at the start of this thread to run the RB chassis and now that they are here and available the "powers to be" who sponsor these chaps have said no to it, as simple as that, is the reason they are not running them.

It would not be the first time on oOple that someone has logged on with a new "ficticous" account and new usename purely to wind someone or a stituation up and I am sure Tony felt this was the case since it was the guys first ever post. I have been with Tont most of the day at the SHRCCC regional and I am sure he will come along and add something approriate when he gets home and has time...

I am not connected to Tony or Rudebits or in any way and in fact often "have words" with the old man myself from time to time (just a few days ago in fact about the qualifying method we chose at the DMS regional last weekend) but please understand there was far more to it than met the eye here on this occassion.......

I was going to say something here to explain where Tony was coming from in his reply, but it looks like Darren has already summed it up!

Sometimes Darren speaks real sense, even if he gets the qualifying method wrong! Haha :lol:

Kev

Darren Boyle 27-05-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsideLineRacing (Post 658938)
I was going to say something here to explain where Tony was coming from in his reply, but it looks like Darren has already summed it up!

Sometimes Darren speaks real sense, even if he gets the qualifying method wrong! Haha :lol:

Kev

Who asked you anyway!! LOL

(FTD all the way!!! :p)

arransmith27 27-05-2012 06:34 PM

Regardless, Nicmo didn't deserve to receive such a terse response to stating a simple fact.

Simple manners cost nothing at the end of the day

Maybe i'm just old fashioned (which isn't a bad thing i suppose)

jimmyfish 27-05-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Boyle (Post 658932)
Guys, give Tony a break eh? There is a LOT more to this than meets the eye and is known by the general public....

A deal was done for the guys named at the start of this thread to run the RB chassis and now that they are here and available the "powers to be" who sponsor these chaps have said no to it, as simple as that, is the reason they are not running them.

It would not be the first time on oOple that someone has logged on with a new "ficticous" account and new usename purely to wind someone or a stituation up and I am sure Tony felt this was the case since it was the guys first ever post. I have been with Tont most of the day at the SHRCCC regional and I am sure he will come along and add something approriate when he gets home and has time...

I am not connected to Tony or Rudebits or in any way and in fact often "have words" with the old man myself from time to time (just a few days ago in fact about the qualifying method we chose at the DMS regional last weekend) but please understand there was far more to it than met the eye here on this occassion.......

Y should we give tony t a break? All nicmo did was state a fact and asked a question. Tonys responce was bang out of order.

Yes tony t is well known and well respected throught rc, but when you come out with comments like that, makes you think.

arransmith27 27-05-2012 06:51 PM

Why should he get a break - he was balantly f*****g rude.

End of, that is all

mattybucks 27-05-2012 07:25 PM

To be honest Tony's a really nice guy, he does on occasion voice his opinion :o as we all do. Tony's a great ambassador for the hobby, and it'll be a worse place without him, well it would be for all you C4.1 owners!

We also all post threads on the heat of the moment that people can at times take offence to. Tony's thread is no real big deal, it just makes forums like oople great.

spenner 27-05-2012 07:54 PM

Am i missing a post here ????

Tony was straight to the point with his reply, nothing that bad... (it was one of the first post's the guy made)

Yet some of you guys are making out he has totally abused the guy, get a grip keyboard warriors!!!

As has been said Danny McGee used the chassis, only Cragg and Bradders can say why they didn't.

spenner 27-05-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyfish (Post 658943)
Y should we give tony t a break? All nicmo did was state a fact and asked a question. Tonys responce was bang out of order.

Yes tony t is well known and well respected throught rc, but when you come out with comments like that, makes you think!


Firstly you clearly don't know Tony T!!!! So, how can you comment on someone you don't know ?? He posted one sentence!!

Secondly, names start with capitals!! Can be classed as disrespect.... makes you think.......... clueless!!!

mikeyscott 27-05-2012 08:11 PM

I know Tony and he's a super helpful, polite guy and someone I'd class as a friend..

Some of the comments here are just rude.


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