oOple.com Forums

oOple.com Forums (http://www.oople.com/forums/index.php)
-   Team Associated (http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=24)
-   -   GHEA pistons (which way up!) (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76454)

Bigbaddave 28-07-2011 07:21 PM

GHEA pistons (which way up!)
 
This is probably a daft question but just got some GHEA pistons for my B44.1, which way do they go in tappered side up or down?

Belsten 28-07-2011 07:38 PM

tapered side down :thumbsup:

reflexuk 29-07-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belsten (Post 532694)
tapered side down :thumbsup:

Why:eh?:?

Wraggy 29-07-2011 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reflexuk (Post 533168)
Why:eh?:?

faster return :)

Rebelrc 29-07-2011 10:12 PM

Either way...:lol::)

reflexuk 29-07-2011 10:35 PM

If I understand it right the spring absorbs the bump and it is the job of a damper to control the return. If a faster return was better then surely no damper would be 'best'.

I too understood (and read somewhere) that it doesn't matter which way up they go.

grelland 30-07-2011 08:16 PM

then you understand it wrong...

The damper works in both directions and its task is to dampen the movement/oscillations you would get if you had only a spring.

The Ghea piston is designed so that you have a slightly different damping rate in each direction.

Rebelrc 30-07-2011 09:08 PM

You also understand it wrong grelland
Cause they cannot return faster cause that's impossible! They are linear in or out
Cheers

Dazzler 30-07-2011 09:21 PM

This has been done to death previously, and the man himself (ghea) confirms from testing that rebel is correct..

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...830#post465830

Rebelrc 30-07-2011 09:23 PM

Cheers Dazzler:thumbsup:

Rebelrc 30-07-2011 09:27 PM

Don't get me wrong, they defo make a difference but just not in the way people are stateing
Not sure what it is though! Lol

moth898 30-07-2011 09:33 PM

The taper is down to keep the piston from hydro-locking against the shock body when fully extended . By hydro-locking I mean temporaraly stuck to shock bottom. The taper leaves a little oil between the piston and shock. It makes for a smoother ride.

Rebelrc 30-07-2011 09:39 PM

Moth you are wrong ! Read the link above cheers
That already been suggested
:lol:

reflexuk 30-07-2011 10:27 PM

Hehe, this has been fascinating. :lol:


So, that cleared up, what would be wrong with a shocker that had 'no' damping in upward wheel travel and only damped on downward travel? An extending spring with no damping would cause a chassis to bounce after a bump so there is clearly a case for damping in that direction but why damp the other way? Surely a wheel can move more fully up a bump with less damping, no?
For the purposes of an answer let's remove cornering from the equation.

Rebelrc 31-07-2011 07:45 AM

The only reliable way of getting two stage damping on a 1/10th is to valve the piston like Richard weatherley did with the pred years ago.
I have problem with Ghea and their excellent products and yes machined (not moulded) pistons are a great idea in my opinion and do make a difference in a good way. And their service and information is great
Would be nice to see people trying the valve method as it defo makes for a quicker return with pack as desired

reflexuk 31-07-2011 11:18 PM

So, is that the universal desire then, more damping piston going in than going out?

moth898 01-08-2011 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 533578)
Moth you are wrong ! Read the link above cheers
That already been suggested
:lol:

Thank god for you being right:confused:

Rebelrc 01-08-2011 06:54 AM

Thank god I was right about some thing once! And I am not letting go of it. Lol:thumbsup: cheers

smokes 01-08-2011 11:25 AM

can we get a graph of tapered vs non tapered dyno test to see why they work?

grelland 01-08-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 533565)
You also understand it wrong grelland
Cause they cannot return faster cause that's impossible! They are linear in or out
Cheers

I stand corrected :)

At least I was right when I said the previous poster was wrong:thumbsup:


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:02 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
oOple.com