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Fabs 28-08-2010 04:00 PM

should have but the question would be more is it worth buying a helicoil kit for that...

RogerM 29-08-2010 11:47 AM

plenty of us have them so he might happen across somebody who could help him till you can get him the pukka bits, if he was close enough I certainly would.

Fabs 31-08-2010 02:37 PM

I would like to congratulate Craig Collinson for his victory at the Silverstone weekender with the MCS.

Well done mate !

I'll try to bug him for his wet and dry setups. :thumbsup:

Fabs 06-09-2010 09:23 PM

Dirt setup from the euros is online on petit rc.

Lowie 06-09-2010 10:56 PM

i'm most curious :)

direct link from PetitRC:
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...nEuros2010.pdf

SimonW 10-09-2010 08:20 PM

Hi All,
Am lovin' this car it just gets better and better each time i go out with it. I have noticed a small problem and i would like to share it with you guys as it would seem to be quite important, i noticed that my motor plate is rubbing on my lipo pack and has almost cut through the casing so i took a file and removed a couple of mm's just to clear the lipo pack when the T-plate is at full flex. Something else i have done is to countersink the top 2 holes for the shock tower mount, this eliminates any movement of the tower when landing on it.

HTH Simon

Lowie 11-09-2010 01:14 AM

Simon, can you explain this countersunk-modification a bit more? II do not understand how the use of countersunk screws in stead of regular-screws can prevent the rear shocktower from moving...
This shocktower is attached with 4 screws and IMHO there is no movement in it.


@ Fabs: do you have any news about the 2 rear shocktowers?

Fabs 11-09-2010 10:14 AM

Yep I'm curious too...

I have plenty of towers but no spare gearboxes...

Another question for you guys, who'd be interested in a plate to support a rear roll bar ? Or in clear, who runs/want to run a roll bar? If enough people I'll have a batch of them made.

Lowie 11-09-2010 10:55 AM

rollbar? I would!

erkan 12-09-2010 12:19 AM

i run rollbar on the standard rb5 :D

Fabs 13-09-2010 11:38 AM

Week ends results round up
 
Hi all,

Here's a round up on MCS driver's results this week end at various events:

Craig Collinson : 2nd at the autumn cup at RHR, 3 seconds behind GOD in a 7 minutes final. 'Nuff said!
Nick Caro TQ at Southport regional but finished last in the A after stuffing it. Nick you suck ! ha ha!
John Spencer TQ at Stotfold club meting (same)

Well done you all, keep it up !

spenner 13-09-2010 11:53 AM

Just a stotfold club meeting fab.... But first time out with car. Awesome!!!

Fabs 15-09-2010 10:08 AM

Craig's silverstone dry and wet setups are now online on petit rc...

tsan 15-09-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erkan (Post 412739)
i run rollbar on the standard rb5 :D

Any chance of seeing a pic of that, erkan?

Fabs 16-09-2010 11:04 PM

Right guys,

Craig has been testing a saddle lipo configuration. This has been an improvement for him, it made the car more responsive and with more steering. I've worked out a neat way to have it done which would require only 3 new carbon fibre parts. It should't cost too much, but The question is, who would be interested?

I've also sorted out a brass weight for under the lipo and one for the back of the car for low grip conditions.

I need sufficient numbers in order to make it all viable...

Fabs

Lowie 16-09-2010 11:35 PM

I allready have the Ghea brass rear bits (Toe-block and anti-squat-block).

I also added some weight behind the lipo, on both ends of the motor, and got the car to a balance of 64% of the total weight on the rear axle, which makes the car react very stable when jumping.

Do you have pictures of this saddle-layout, Fabs? I had thought of trying a sadle-layout as well, thinking that the more centered weight of the lipo's could only improve the handling of the car... but on the other hand, now the MCS is a mid-motor in which one can use regular stickpacks, which also is a big advantage ... and I don't have any saddle-lipo.

As for my setup for the EIR-track, Fabs, I'm gonna test some more. I think I can get it even better.


Also another note:
there is news about the EIR 2011.
I made a post about it over here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53745

Hope we can meet there again, Fabs :)

Also, have fun this weekend at the race in Paris and please pass on my regards to my racing friends. Pitty I can't come.

Hulk 16-09-2010 11:56 PM

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Lowie 17-09-2010 12:06 AM

hey Hulk, isn't that a stickpack mounted over the length off the car, in stead of a sadle-pack?

Hulk 17-09-2010 12:08 AM

Above is a pic of how ive done mine.

This is a home made job so its not the neatest as its only been done for some testing.

Ive found with the electrics centered down the middle the car is more responsive, changes direction quicker without rolling as much, and has more steering as there is more weight towards the front. The car in general just feels more balanced.

When the traction is low and your struggling for rear end grip all you need do is bolt around 30-50gof weight to the rear of the shock tower and/or put some weight under the rear lipo. Also giving therear camber link loads of angle seems to help keep the rear locked in on low traction tracks, especially in the wet.

Fabs has sent me some drawings of the parts he would make to give this lipo configuration and i for one must say it looks very professional.

He has also sent some pics of the brass weight you can bolt to the rear of the shock tower and the brass strip to go under your lipo, both of which look sweet! :thumbsup:

Hulk 17-09-2010 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowie (Post 414535)
hey Hulk, isn't that a stickpack mounted over the length off the car, in stead of a sadle-pack?

No mate, its saddle pack with the front going length ways and the rear lipo going across forming a T shape.

Definately improved the handling of the car in my opinion, you just need time to get used to the added steering!

Craig

Fabs 17-09-2010 09:51 AM

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Here's what I'm proposing to do:

Fabs 19-09-2010 08:38 PM

This week end was the F345 at Silverstone, and I'm pleased to report that Nick caro was TQ in 2WD with the MCS, and finished 3rd. Well done mate !

DaveG28 19-09-2010 09:05 PM

Good skills Nick!:thumbsup:

njc11 19-09-2010 09:19 PM

Cheers Dave :thumbsup:

MCS was awesome.. it just gets better and better!!

FABS.. loving those bits, count me in!! :thumbsup:

Fabs 22-09-2010 06:57 PM

Right guys,

Got prices for them, I can make the complete saddle conversion for 30 pound + postage if I have 10 of them made.

So need to know who wants one...

phil c 22-09-2010 07:02 PM

How much for just the brass weights fabs ?

Fabs 22-09-2010 07:13 PM

Ain't got a price yet...

Fabs 28-09-2010 10:48 PM

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Hi all,

I'm happy to report that the new big bore shocks do fit on the car even at the rear with longest wheelbase!

It does come close to the springs, but the body doesn't rub on the turnbuclkes which was my main concern.

This is only if you use the forward holes on the aluminium hubs and forward holes on the inner holders though. However we always use these on high grip, and on low grip there is no clearance issue with the wishbones flipped...

Now for the shocks, they've managed to better the velvets! There's now an o-ring at the base of the thread for the small black cartridge cap, which means it's not going to unscrew itself anymore, and they provide X-rings as standards. Pistons are 5 x 1.2mm holes, wich big chamfers on both sides but not really tapered.

X-Gear springs are very nice and have quite a bit of clearance over the bodies so they're not gonna rub either. I have already calculated the spring rates...

paulc 03-10-2010 01:43 PM

Indoor set up
 
Hi Fabs got a set up for indoors please will be running the car at the Batley indoor series at chadderton similar track surface as Worksop

Paul :)

Hulk 03-10-2010 01:49 PM

Hi Paul,

Im doing the Chadderton series aswell. Im also doing the Worksop series and the first round is next Sunday. Will be working on the car to try and get a base set up for this surface, so by the time Batley starts we should have a good starting point.

Come over and see me on the day if you need any help.

Craig

paulc 03-10-2010 01:53 PM

Cheers Craig will do

Fabs 03-10-2010 05:37 PM

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Well here's a base setup for indoors, worked well at worksop last year.

Fabs 03-10-2010 09:37 PM

Also have tried the new big bores today and was very impressed! Unfortunately I broke the car and didn't have spares so didn't get to do much testing but first impression is that bumps are handled better, and the car jumps better too.

Fabs 10-10-2010 05:06 PM

Well I just got word from Craig that he's TQ'd and won the first round at worksop. Well done mate !!! :thumbsup:

Hulk 10-10-2010 10:24 PM

Video of the A final at Worksop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_jTRjKgbs

The car was awesome all day! Didnt have to push the car at all in the final as it was so easy to drive.

Will post my set up asap.

Craig

Lowie 11-10-2010 01:17 AM

about the extra wheight: I'll post a picture of my car later on.
I used the Ghea-brass-toe and antisquat-parts.
I also drilled holes behind the battery on the left and right side of the motor, beveled it and bolted some drilled weights onto the chassis. AT first I used double-sided tape to glue those weights but they kept on getting loose after hard landings (or crashes :blush:)
I tried to get a 64% weight on the rear tires and that got my car very well balanced.

Some questions, Fabs:
1. I just wonder, what are the benefits of Bigbore shocks?
If your shocks are tuned right, they should just do the job: dampening bumps, bigbore or not ... or am I wrong here? Is there a difference?

2. About those Bigbore shocks: what is the "wheel-rate" of a shock??
Actually, I found this document about the BB-shocks: http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...WheelRates.pdf
but I don't understand it.

3. :blush: could it be possible that you forgot my spare shocktowers?

4. I would also like to buy 2 top link holders. Mine are bent in a severe crash.
Frontal crash into a concrete pole after being hit by another car while I was on a long sthraight at full speed :( )

5. count me in for a saddle conversion-kit as well.

and last question: 6. How many kits do you still have, Fabs? If I find the budget, I might buy a spare one.

wacattack 11-10-2010 08:40 AM

Big bores handle bumpy tracks much better than the standard diameter. The downside is that they are less responsive. Basically its a trade-off manufacturers make when designing their shocks

Fabs 11-10-2010 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowie (Post 422021)
about the extra wheight: I'll post a picture of my car later on.
I used the Ghea-brass-toe and antisquat-parts.
I also drilled holes behind the battery on the left and right side of the motor, beveled it and bolted some drilled weights onto the chassis. AT first I used double-sided tape to glue those weights but they kept on getting loose after hard landings (or crashes :blush:)
I tried to get a 64% weight on the rear tires and that got my car very well balanced.

Some questions, Fabs:
1. I just wonder, what are the benefits of Bigbore shocks?
If your shocks are tuned right, they should just do the job: dampening bumps, bigbore or not ... or am I wrong here? Is there a difference?

2. About those Bigbore shocks: what is the "wheel-rate" of a shock??
Actually, I found this document about the BB-shocks: http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...WheelRates.pdf
but I don't understand it.

3. :blush: could it be possible that you forgot my spare shocktowers?

4. I would also like to buy 2 top link holders. Mine are bent in a severe crash.
Frontal crash into a concrete pole after being hit by another car while I was on a long sthraight at full speed :( )

5. count me in for a saddle conversion-kit as well.

and last question: 6. How many kits do you still have, Fabs? If I find the budget, I might buy a spare one.

Gee Ludo you didn't say you bent those !!! I don't have any spares of those and remember you lost a pair of them already :p

I'll have a look at having more made but it could be a while and not sure I can have them anodised at a decent price either..

No I ain't forgotten your towers but yeah I have :blush:

Big Bores seem to handle any sort of bump better, be them small ruts or a big jump. It has to do with the amoun of pack I believe, but also the volume of oil displaced seems to have a role as otherwise you could get the same effect with smaller shocks.

The wheel rates relate to the rate of the springs seen at the wheel of the car. It depends on the spring's rate of course, but also on the suspension geometry. Basically wheel rates are more important than spring rates IMHO because they show exactly what you really are doing with the setup, especially if you're playing with the different holes on the wishbones.

Lowie 11-10-2010 09:50 AM

I only lost one, not a pair, and yes, I am ashamed about it :(
Never happened to me before. I guess that part must still be lying around somewhere in the grass at that track in Paris.

Fabs 19-10-2010 04:34 PM

Alright guys,

GREAT NEWS ! The remaining gearboxes have been sent out to me so I'll be able to send the kits to everyone probably early next week.

Unless you've been in touch recently (last week) could you please get in touch with me if you want a kit as I must admit I've lost track of who wants one and who doesn't anymore etc...

As for spares we need to make a new mold so it'll take some time.

Fabs


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