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mes 16-02-2013 06:33 PM

It is a really nice dirt track:
RCRT Duisburg e.V.

mekios 16-02-2013 06:42 PM

Very nice! It's the kind of dirt tracks we have in Greece.

http://rcdevil.smugmug.com/2012/Elec..._MG_9889-M.jpg

mes 16-02-2013 07:39 PM

Great track! We used to have a dirt track in Troisdorf, too, but as only a few committed members in our smallish club are willing to maintain the track and weather in Germany unfortunately is not like in Greece, we had to move on to astroturf.

s22jgs 16-02-2013 09:07 PM

yeh 400cst

it really depends on what surface and air temp to whether you want to run that hard though.

in running the kit pistons, so 1.2 rear, and in running 200cst tomorrow with a 1.9 spring.

but that's because its going to be 5degrees and the track is really bumpy.

looking at alot of Japanese tracks they tend to be smooth so would explain the use of 400.

mekios 17-02-2013 12:03 AM

What is a 1.9 spring?
By the way, i have seen this comparison chart:
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/yokomo/...ringsChart.pdf

Does this mean that i blue rear springs on the b-max 2 are the same as orange rear springs in b-max 4?

Reo 18-02-2013 08:04 AM

play in rear arms
 
Hi, i think it is to much play in rear arms.. the toe is changing pretty much when i rocking arms. Is it to bigholes for the pins? feels like it..

s22jgs 18-02-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mekios (Post 746790)
What is a 1.9 spring?
By the way, i have seen this comparison chart:
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/yokomo/...ringsChart.pdf

Does this mean that i blue rear springs on the b-max 2 are the same as orange rear springs in b-max 4?

I use the AE springs. 1.9 is the spring rate.

That chart is misleading. All it does is match the names (super soft) to colours. It doesn't have any relation to spring rates from what I could find. For example the bmax4 super soft is harder than the bmax2 super soft

s22jgs 18-02-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reo (Post 747181)
Hi, i think it is to much play in rear arms.. the toe is changing pretty much when i rocking arms. Is it to bigholes for the pins? feels like it..

Have you fitted the front and rear inserts?

Reo 18-02-2013 08:53 AM

yes, i just now fitted bmax4 rear arms, and they are nice and tight, and free movement. just have to shave off 1mm on both sides of arm.

Reo 18-02-2013 09:02 AM

to much play i hub to.. option available in alu but to expencive. Try bmax4 hub to and see..

Reo 18-02-2013 09:14 AM

nice, bmax4 parts are much tighter! :) arms+hubs..

mekios 18-02-2013 09:42 AM

As i understand it, it is a philosophy of yokomo to have tight fronts without play and allow some play on the rear.
Even the B-Max 4 has some play on the rear lower arms.

Reo 18-02-2013 09:49 AM

well never heard that.. bmax4 arms and hubs are much tighter ennyway.

If it helps handling with much play that changes toe angle on and off power cant realy see that.

xfactor 18-02-2013 02:01 PM

Hi i also had play in rear arms (front to back) movement, but fitted a shim this gives extra tuning as you can alter the shim to change wheelbase via the arms this is the same as tamiya and kyosho buggies ;)

Reo 18-02-2013 02:47 PM

this was not front\back movment.. sideways..

discothesnake 18-02-2013 03:39 PM

I have these issues also. Not sure how much it troubles handling tho.

MattK 18-02-2013 03:47 PM

mine had small play in the arm but mainly forwards and backwards, but I cant really see it will make any difference to how the car handles on offroad tracks. (or with my driving)
Probably more important the arms are free im my opinion.:)

s22jgs 18-02-2013 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattK (Post 747337)
mine had small play in the arm but mainly forwards and backwards, but I cant really see it will make any difference to how the car handles on offroad tracks. (or with my driving)
Probably more important the arms are free im my opinion.:)

there is forward backward movement which is due to antisquat. If u run 0 degrees u will have little to no play. By running antisquat you effectively lengthen the hinge pin. If you are worried about it just shim it out.

its not a design or manufacturing fault, its just maths and angles.

i beleive the Durango manual said to shim when runni g more anti squat. I don't think its an issue if u do or not though. When moving forward the arms will always be pushed back and wont move forward unless you go in reverse

s22jgs 18-02-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattK (Post 747337)
mine had small play in the arm but mainly forwards and backwards, but I cant really see it will make any difference to how the car handles on offroad tracks. (or with my driving)
Probably more important the arms are free im my opinion.:)

its caused by anti squat angles effectively lengthening the hinge pin. Its not a design or manufacturing fault, just maths and angles. If you don't like it just shim it out, but to be honest once the car is rolling they will settle backwards and wont move forwards unless u hit reverse

GML 19-02-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mes (Post 746657)
It is a really nice dirt track:
RCRT Duisburg e.V.

Do you mean that B-max2 Mid is good on dirt tracks ?

MattK 19-02-2013 07:41 PM

Does anyone know if the b4 spur gears fit as a direct replacement? I am trying to gear the car down but the smallest pinion that fits with the standard spur is 20tooth so looking at larger spur as an alternative. Also how expensive are the slipper pads!!!! :o
Any help appreciated :)

mes 19-02-2013 08:28 PM

B4 spur gears and slipper pads are a direct fit for the B-Max2. For the B-Max4, slipper pads are a direct replacement, but spur gears are different as their centre hole is bigger.

MattK 19-02-2013 10:07 PM

Thanks. I knew the 4wd spurs were different.
First time yokomo owner and absolutely love it!!
:drool:

mekios 20-02-2013 11:37 AM

Does anybody else think that the steering rack is weak? It seems really thin.

Rayzerp 20-02-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mekios (Post 748059)
Does anybody else think that the steering rack is weak? It seems really thin.

Not really....it does not stand out to me as a weak point...I quess time will tell!!:lol:

discothesnake 20-02-2013 01:13 PM

I think it should be fine. It's well protected and you have your servo saver.

mes 20-02-2013 06:21 PM

Didn't experience any problems in one season of racing.

mekios 20-02-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 748097)
I think it should be fine. It's well protected and you have your servo saver.

I didn't put the saver on! :cry:

s22jgs 20-02-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mekios (Post 748203)
I didn't put the saver on! :cry:

Servo saver isn't needed. You have the flex of the plastic parts to give forgiveness. I've not run a saver in over 2 years and not done a servo.

Personally I just see it as another point of failure

jonathan may 26-02-2013 01:05 PM

Hi I have a rb6 but am nor getting on with it has any one here changed from the rb6 to the yokomo if so what do you think worth the change or not

smokes 28-02-2013 12:54 PM

Still building the bmax 2 MR can someone tell me what pitch the kit spur is is 48d.p or module 0.8?
Diff went together well but what balls are used in diff steel or carbide.

The instruction don't tell you to lubricate the gears in this correct?
I used finish line X-country dry oil on them will this be okay?
Threading the ball joints was eas,y too easy compared to other kits do they pop off? or strip the thread?#Just have to build theshocks do you use green slime on the o-rings?

sheddy 28-02-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokes (Post 751072)
Still building the bmax 2 MR can someone tell me what pitch the kit spur is is 48d.p or module 0.8?
Diff went together well but what balls are used in diff steel or carbide.

The instruction don't tell you to lubricate the gears in this correct?
I used finish line X-country dry oil on them will this be okay?
Threading the ball joints was eas,y too easy compared to other kits do they pop off? or strip the thread?#Just have to build theshocks do you use green slime on the o-rings?

I found the front camber links kept moving drastically after each run, as a quick fix at a meeting I put on associated turnbuckles with rpm cups. Has not moved since.

Also I didnt put any oil/grease on the gearbox internals as per the manual. It runs so quiet. And I used green slime on the shock orings

mekios 28-02-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokes (Post 751072)
Still building the bmax 2 MR can someone tell me what pitch the kit spur is is 48d.p or module 0.8?
Diff went together well but what balls are used in diff steel or carbide.

The instruction don't tell you to lubricate the gears in this correct?
I used finish line X-country dry oil on them will this be okay?
Threading the ball joints was eas,y too easy compared to other kits do they pop off? or strip the thread?#Just have to build theshocks do you use green slime on the o-rings?

48pitch and the balls are tungsten covered carbide.

mes 28-02-2013 03:18 PM

My new diff doesn't have any balls at all! :p

highlander 28-02-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mes (Post 751134)
My new diff doesn't have any balls at all! :p


hee hee
my gear diff has been working a treat on carpet no balls for me too

jonathan may 28-02-2013 06:02 PM

what the parts no for the gear diff

mes 28-02-2013 06:22 PM

B2-500GS

s22jgs 28-02-2013 06:44 PM

My gear diff ate itself inside lol.

Gonna back to ball diff and found it quicker anyway

highlander 28-02-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s22jgs (Post 751201)
My gear diff ate itself inside lol.

Gonna back to ball diff and found it quicker anyway

Steve what wt oil were you running when she poped .. running 3000 at the mo

ANY ONE FROM THE MB MODELS / YOKO POSSY GOING TO THE LAST SILVERSTONE ROUND ON THE 9th ... would be great to put names to faces
cheers lee

s22jgs 28-02-2013 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highlander (Post 751228)
Steve what wt oil were you running when she poped .. running 3000 at the mo

ANY ONE FROM THE MB MODELS / YOKO POSSY GOING TO THE LAST SILVERSTONE ROUND ON THE 9th ... would be great to put names to faces
cheers lee

800cst mate

I had issues with the gear diff though. Even without oil it was way too tight, felt like 50k oil so I removed the tiny shim under the pins. Fixed the tightness but may have caused the gears to eat themselves.

I think the issue is the casing being slightly too large making the outlive tight. A better solution may have been to shave half a mm off the outside casing where it meets the outdrive


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