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super__dan 06-04-2009 03:32 PM

Sebastian is right the geometry is different but the intention of the revised shock tower was to replicate the same wheel rates on the squared but with using the new flat/reversable wishbones.

As such the rear of my car is setup exactly the same as the old one. My front end has weight and is slightly softer spring and oil wise than before since now running LIPO. I've only ran it once outdoors so far this year (yesterday at Batley) where the car was EXCELLENT.

ben44 07-04-2009 10:09 AM

Dear,

I would like to know, if i use this part.

http://www.xfactoryrc.com/Images/ESB...dExtenders.jpg

Like what they say i will turn better, but did i loose some grip at the rear?

I don't have any option on my X6², this one was it important?

pizzaman 13-04-2009 03:48 PM

hi, as ne1 got a good starting setup for outdoors at southport for x6 squared,running sphere comp x11 6.5 bonded,have got rear big E rear camber links an bk2 axles,losi shocks also using trakpower 4900 lipo.thanks in advance

YoungChazz 14-04-2009 04:21 PM

Ben44, there is much discussion of the E-Speed Camber Link Extenders on another thread in the X Factory section. They work very well on high-grip tracks, such as are found in U.K. Ellis designed them and has stated on that thread exactly the advantages.

On the rough, dusty outdoor tracks often found here in the U.S. we rarely use them.

Therefore, they are a tuning option you will use on some tracks and not on others. All X Team drivers have them, no matter where they are in the world, and all have found tracks where the extenders work well and other tracks where the extenders are not so good.

We think we have produced the most adjustable car out there so you can make it perfect for your style and your track. For the X Team drivers, that work is half the fun!

Jony P 21-04-2009 08:00 AM

Stagger Ribs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janus_77 (Post 131837)
2 new pics of the front tires that are...., well less bad than the 1st one anyway :rolleyes:


This is a question for WELL back in the thread but why do people cut stagger ribs??

What's the theory??

Jony P 21-04-2009 08:01 AM

to use on an X-6^2 obviously lol. (as this is the "X factory bit)

super__dan 21-04-2009 08:28 AM

To get just a little bit more steering out of them.

Jony P 21-04-2009 04:17 PM

lol. cool all good thanks. see you at talywain

bald eagle 28-04-2009 12:41 PM

Anybody got a base set up for astro turf? racing at kiddy on sunday... cheers in advance :thumbsup:

Lee 28-04-2009 02:54 PM

Craig, if you stick Ellis' Oz setup this will be a great start. I would advise this setup for anyone on any of our outdoor tracks, it just works and is 90% there, just fine tuning for you and the conditions on the day. Just a change of spring here or anti squat there and Ellis's thumbs and you should be on for TQ :lol:

bald eagle 28-04-2009 03:02 PM

Cheers Lee. :thumbsup:

super__dan 28-04-2009 03:15 PM

Agreed, it is THE base setup for anything we race on in the uk on mini spikes!

Jony P 28-04-2009 03:44 PM

el's oz set up
 
guys, stupid one

where will i find el's oz base set up??

ta.:thumbsup:

Big E 28-04-2009 03:55 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here :woot:

Just a couple of tweaks from back then for the Squared but this is what I generally start with at all tracks.

E.

stikkan1 28-04-2009 09:16 PM

Losi vs asso shocks.
 
Why are most of the settup sheets with losi shocks?
Are they better in some track conditions?

(waiting for the mail man.... will an x6,2 fit the mailbox?)

Lee 28-04-2009 09:30 PM

It depends how big your mailbox is :thumbsup:

In the UK most of the testing has been done with losi shocks, i believe they are a slightly "nicer" shock compared to AE. I have used AE shocks too and they were fine but there is no point in working on your own when the rest of the team are running another shock.

I know BK is using kyosho, maybe these could be the way to go in the future :confused:

Jony P 28-04-2009 09:46 PM

set up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E (Post 235451)
Here :woot:

Just a couple of tweaks from back then for the Squared but this is what I generally start with at all tracks.

E.


Top man cheers Ellis :thumbsup:

See you soon

SHY 11-05-2009 12:34 PM

Ellis, do you have revised base set-ups for both cars with LiPo fitted?

(Maybe it's time for a revised set-up sheet with indications of where & how much weight is added?)

Cheers

Cockerill 11-05-2009 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SHY (Post 239614)
Ellis, do you have revised base set-ups for both cars with LiPo fitted?

(Maybe it's time for a revised set-up sheet with indications of where & how much weight is added?)

Cheers

Ellis has posted a 2wd setup above in post #174. This setup is used by pretty much the whole team now. We aim for a total weight of around 1700g with a 35/65 weight distribution.

I've attached my 4wd setup from this weekend. It's been working well for the last few weeks at several different tracks and is now what I start with at each track.

SHY 12-05-2009 11:02 AM

Thanks a lot! :thumbsup:

So the 4WD is down to a minimum weight. But loads of ballast on the 2WD...

Do you guys also run a heavy car on astro with high grip level? (I guess grass tracks have tons of grip as well?)

Is it the "float" through bumps that make you pros go for a heavy 2WD?

I've heard that Lee Martin ran a very lightweight B4 at the Players (just above min. weight) - is that correct? I'm surprised the X-6 then cannot do even better with a light configuration :confused:

(I'll test your setups and do laptime comparisons)

Sidetrack: I cannot get a gain from a front one-way, so I wonder if my driving style needs to be changed. When coasting with a diff vs. one-way I feel no difference. And if you apply throttle it just pushes out. Whilst a diff makes the car much more stable under acceleration on bumpy and/or uphill parts. (I typically brake, then just coast) Do you guys kinda rally style set up the car before the corner and then "power slide" through the corners with the one-way?


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