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Hulk 28-12-2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartalec (Post 599828)
Adam I think there are two main concerns here, the first being will these tyres be available in the numbers required and secondly it's a bit annoying that some of the team drivers have had these tyres for a while (allegedly) and thus have an advantage.

I also fully understand that they had to be tested to see if they actually work :)

Im sure the tyres will be available in the numbers required.

These tyres have only been used a few times by team drivers to make sure they were suitable for the event, and i can confirm they're really good. Someone had to test them otherwise how many complaints would there be if they hadnt been tested and they were pants on the day. (which they're not of course).

You dont really have needed to use the tyres before the event, tyres either work or they dont. Ive not had to make any set up changes to my car going from schumacher minipins to nanobytes, just put them on and your good to go.

NitroArgi 28-12-2011 08:41 PM

What about inserts? Which ones did you used?

Hulk 28-12-2011 09:00 PM

Standard schumacher ones.

Just use whatever inserts you usually use when running schumacher minipins.

If you wanna calm the front end down then use a bigger insert in the front.

I nearly always use the same insert no matter what tyre i run. Guess its down to personal preference.

NitroArgi 28-12-2011 09:11 PM

Ruuning most of the time on dirt I have never used schumacher minipins.

I normally use stock Proline foam insert or close cell from AKA or Proline.

I quess that close insert is not ideal for carpet racing...this will my first race ever on this surface!

Richard Lowe 28-12-2011 11:39 PM

Any insert designed for dirt tyres is a big no no with carpet/astro style tyres as they are generally way too firm.

With dirt tyres the insert provides a lot of the support and shape of the carcass as the rubber is so soft. With carpet tyres the sidewalls are much stiffer and can generally support themselves pretty well, the inserts are only really there to keep the tyre up in the middle. With the firmer tyres inserts are also much less critical to get right, in general as long as they're 'close enough' you'll be fine :)

bally 29-12-2011 12:29 AM

Tyres For Petit Race
 
Hi all as the on site shop at Ardent Raceway we will have plenty of tyres available for the Petit Race, once the meeting is over these will then go on sale in the shops.

We intend to have parts for all popular chassis as well as a large range of wheels and inserts etc.

Regards
MB

mekios 29-12-2011 03:35 PM

From the petitrc forum:

Quote:

Some news about tyres:

The new Nanobyte tyres will be available at the track on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They are arriving in the UK this week. We will NOT sell any to anyone prior to the race. This means that all pilots at the Petitrc race will have the same chance to run the tyres. No-one will have an advantage by being able to run the tyres before the race. This is a true controlled tyre!

The tyres will be shipped direct to the race on the Friday, and will be available from the on-site shop (MB Models) that Friday.

We will have the following tyres & prices available at the track:-

DB1013RA dBoots 1/10 NanoByte(A) - RRP = £7.75 (approx 9.30€)*
DB10134A dBoots1/10 NanoByte(A) – RRP = £7.25 (approx 8,60€)*
DB10132A dBoots1/10 NanoByte(A) – RRP = £6.75 (approx 8€)*
DBSC13AA dBoots 1/10 NanoByte (A) – RRP = TBC (hopefully by the end of today)

£1 = 1,19€ (29/12/2011)

I remind you that you can use ANY Dboots compounds. The Nanobytes are just recommended (because they are better on carpet than others Dboots)

The Chef 29-12-2011 06:55 PM

If one can use any Dboot tyre surly the nano-byte is not truly the control tyre. Is a control tyre not an in-forced one for all?

mark christopher 29-12-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 598994)
Will there be a shop and does anyone know if they stock Kyosho And Durango? Also will there be plenty of Dboots on sale or do I need to stock up before I come? Advice please.

bally (mbmodels) holds on of the largest if not the largest stock of durango parts, knowing mr b he will have other makes covered well too :thumbsup:

The Chef 29-12-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 600244)
bally (mbmodels) holds on of the largest if not the largest stock of durango parts, knowing mr b he will have other makes covered well too :thumbsup:

Thank you, I was under the misconception that it was RC disco as the shop for some reason:o I have been buying my durango bits from MB recently:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Steve W 31-12-2011 01:31 PM

Front tyres 2wd
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mekios (Post 600126)
From the petitrc forum:

I know this has been covered but I have heard different things.

On 2wd cars do you have to use DBoot tyres on the front wheels, or just the driven wheels?

I believe it's all wheels, driven or not?:eh?:

Please confirm as on the Petite web site it just states Dboots to be used so I am assuming on all wheels...???

Steve W 31-12-2011 01:39 PM

What time will practise finish on the Friday?

arny 31-12-2011 02:19 PM

Dboots in all wheels...

Steve W 31-12-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arny (Post 600898)
Dboots in all wheels...

Thanks for confirming

racingdwarf 31-12-2011 02:29 PM

WOW they better keep the doors open saturday morning, Your all going to be high as kites with the amount of tyre glueing going on in the 1st hour:lol:

RudeTony 31-12-2011 05:12 PM

Why is there so many drivers still listed as attending when they are clearly not going?
Also we, 'RudeBits' have been deleted as sponsors or 'partners' with no contact at all.
All very similar to the Silverstone Club scenario !!

Strange affairs in my opinion.

Nicolas you really need to clear up some issue here my friend

Steve W 02-01-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arny (Post 600898)
Dboots in all wheels...

THE FOLLOWING WAS JUST TAKEN FROM THE DBOOTS WEBSITE...!!!!
The Petit RC Race for 2012 will be held at Ardent Raceway for the second year running, over the weekend of 14th & 15th January 2012.* dBoots are pleased to announce our new ‘nanobyte’ tyres have been chosen as the control tyre (driven axles only) :confused::confused::confused: for the event.

Tyres will also be available at the event should you need to buy some.

Check the PetitRC website for more details and to sign up for the event:* http://race.petitrc.com/

So is it driven wheels only or all wheels, the 2 website PETITE and DBOOTS seem to contradict each other?:confused:

Some official clarification would be much appreciated:o

burgie 02-01-2012 08:24 PM

Are there any places left for this race?

Dudders 02-01-2012 08:25 PM

I'd expect so as 50% of the people on the official appear not to be going anymore due to the venue change.

No idea how many booked it, I'm sure it will be busy though.

racingdwarf 02-01-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgie (Post 601810)
Are there any places left for this race?

I should think so,:lol:

burgie 02-01-2012 09:10 PM

Clearly I need to read the entire thread...

JCJC 02-01-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgie (Post 601810)
Are there any places left for this race?

last booking in date 15th December
( http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?t=60664 )

but may be worth asking Nicolas [email protected] or contacting Ardent ?

good luck

Wacker 2 03-01-2012 01:08 AM

how do I go about paying for this event... I've booked in and put down payment method as 'bank transfer' as I dont have paypal nor do I intend to set up a paypal account.

How do I do the bank transfer... dont I need to know the recipitants bank details in order to transfer funds??? where can I get these from???

Can somebody confirm exactly how much it is to race... I'm only gonna be racing on the saturday under the 2wd class.

Thanks, Jon. :thumbsup:

The Chef 03-01-2012 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 600996)


Nicolas you really need to clear up some issue here my friend

Yes it would be nice to have some official clarification both on tyres and the other bits people are asking about.

Also is it timed practice on friday?

ravens 03-01-2012 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wacker 2 (Post 601959)
how do I go about paying for this event... I've booked in and put down payment method as 'bank transfer' as I dont have paypal nor do I intend to set up a paypal account.

How do I do the bank transfer... dont I need to know the recipitants bank details in order to transfer funds??? where can I get these from???

Can somebody confirm exactly how much it is to race... I'm only gonna be racing on the saturday under the 2wd class.

Thanks, Jon. :thumbsup:

Entrys should be closed by 17th December as per this link-> http://www.petitrc.com/prcrace2012/rules.php
But you may want to email Nicolas,contact on same link

Jordy 03-01-2012 09:17 PM

DBoots for Petit
 
Just seen this on Petit RC site:

!!! Warning!!!

Citation:
1 mistake has been written on dboots website!
As written since the beginning the right info is dboots tyres must be used on all axles, including non-driven axles.


dboots will amend the wording on the dboots website immediately.

Dudders 03-01-2012 09:23 PM

If they are sponsoring it's only right they want their tyres on all axles, like the MK GP was Fastrax front and rear and Area 51 is Schumacher all round.

The Chef 03-01-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudders (Post 602316)
If they are sponsoring it's only right they want their tyres on all axles, like the MK GP was Fastrax front and rear and Area 51 is Schumacher all round.

If they want the tyres all round surly they need to make a 2wd that works, like the block pass or similar. The fast trax were rather poor hence you dropped them, I was hoping they had seen sense and allowed schumacher fronts.

Dudders 03-01-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 602326)
If they want the tyres all round surly they need to make a 2wd that works, like the block pass or similar. The fast trax were rather poor hence you dropped them, I was hoping they had seen sense and allowed schumacher fronts.

Made me chuckle that did :thumbsup:

Fastrax are great on Grass as per last years Fastrax GP proved but they would not have been good on the carpet for the GP.

Do the fronts not work then :confused:

andy110m 03-01-2012 10:27 PM

This whole event is becoming a joke because of tyres! I called MB Models today, they are a great shop and are going to be supporting the event but they are not allowed by RC disco to get the tyres yet. They can only collect them on the Thursday before the event and restricted to selling 2 sets to each driver per class on the morning of the event.

Now the latter I think is good because it stops team guys running a new set per run and I don't want more than 2 sets anyway but the former, in terms of time scale, its going to be madness. Arrive, get set up, booked in, buy tyres, get them glued and dry for practice. Wow! I hope it turns out fine in the end but this has slap dash written all over it.

I have no problem with using dBoots tyres but why didn't they make it 2 sets of something we can buy, test and have ready. We could turn up relaxed, having an idea of what to expect from the car ready to race, Lovely.

I'll make a prediction now, it'll be a Durango team driver that wins. I wonder why that'll be!

The Chef 03-01-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudders (Post 602330)
Made me chuckle that did :thumbsup:

Fastrax are great on Grass as per last years Fastrax GP proved but they would not have been good on the carpet for the GP.

Do the fronts not work then :confused:

With pins on the front my vega will turn up it's own ass. Saying you can only have two sets is a bit odd especially considering you can run any D boot so you could have as many sets as you wish. This is turning farcical at a huge rate of knots. My Durango eats tyres.

Dudders 03-01-2012 11:12 PM

I'm not going so won't say too much but to limit two sets is very odd. Are they going to tag the sets they give out so people only use two sets? What's to stop you buying others before hand and keeping them in your car etc?

Odd. Coming Thursday night?

The Chef 03-01-2012 11:26 PM

It would appear that it is only the nano-byte that is limited, you can buy and run as many sets of other Dboot tyre's as you like which is odd, Surly a control tyre is a tyre that is set in stone. It is a bit wishy washy, to say the least. I think some things need to be clarified, is it 100% that you can run any dboot or will we turn up with other Dboots and then be told we can't run them, I don't think 2 sets will last on my Durango it destroys tyres.

If some aficionado could shed some light that would be great.

racingdwarf 04-01-2012 12:45 AM

This gets better the closer to the event we get:lol:

I did the event last year, the thought of driving there,getting in,sorting pit spot and gluing at least 1x full set of tyres before practice:woot:, and thats without joining the line and waiting to collect and pay for tyres, I hope for MB's sake they run a real slick operation in the morning as 120ish drivers all heading for the shop at one time, PDQ machine better be working faster than last year:D

should have taken a page from proline events if you run a control tyre, collect tyres at booking in!

Also what the hell is the point of not releasing the tyres before the event, if its Dboots tyres who cares were you get them from in the uk, they are going to have come from RC disco, dboots arn't loosing out?

shambles,from someone who was on the ball enough to change the cancelation date when he recognised entrants had the opertunity to run at another large event on the same day:yawn: this may be a top event for top drivers...but the rest who pay for it seem to be treated like cattle

Richard Lowe 04-01-2012 01:11 AM

It is getting a bit dumb now, if we only have 2 sets per car that's got to last through the open practice day too or are we getting them Saturday morning? Doesn't give much chance to get to know how the tyres work with the surface, hmm :thumbdown:

You never know though one set might do all of practice and the entire meeting given the crazy grip levels last year - then we'll all be moaning about having lots of tyres left over :lol:

sime46 04-01-2012 07:52 AM

I starting to wish I hadn't bothered with this one. The tyre situation is bizarre.

andy110m 04-01-2012 08:00 AM

Be nice to see something from the organisers on here. I'm fairly sure he must be checking forums. Also be nice to have an updated driver list.

Bally told me it'll be limited to max 2 set per car. So Rich, yes they'll have to do practice day and race day. And thats if he's allowed to sell them on Friday. I might be wrong but the impression I got was they'll go on sale on Saturday morning.

The interesting thing I have been thinking is the Nanobytes are only in the harder A compound. Would the B compound terrobyte tyre be better. I know thats not a bad carpet tyre. I've been thinking would I prefer a yellow mini spike to a blue mini pin? Thats effectively the choice. Then we could turn up prepared and not take part in the tyre farce.

RudeTony 04-01-2012 08:52 AM

Any chance of an entry list?
Or at least how many in each class?

JCJC 04-01-2012 09:28 AM

From Petitrc,
'Hi Cham and all,


We recommend the A compound NanoByte tyres for the PetitRC race. Any dBoots tyre in any compound can be used, but the A compound NanoByte tyre is the fastest.

Inserts will NOT be included with the tyres. Racers can use any insert. Of course, no additives will be allowed.

The tyres have arrived in the UK. They will be on sale on Friday 13th at Ardent raceway, and throughout the weekend from the on-site shop at Ardent raceway.

This is the first time the tyres will be commercially available.
'

hope this helps

Smartalec 04-01-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 602468)
Any chance of an entry list?
Or at least how many in each class?

I'm sure there will be a space for you on both days if you fancy a late entry mate :lol::wub


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