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Big E 08-06-2010 11:43 AM

Tyres is just me being lazy and not reading it right then when I done it as it should have been minispikes. :blush:

I know have 2mm in my rear shocks, when I done that I didn't have the new complete X Factory c cvd kit on the car, now I have I have 2mm in them.

E.

Jamie B4 08-06-2010 01:13 PM

setup
 
Ellis have you a setup for the belgium gp please

Big E 08-06-2010 03:24 PM

I haven't been there for 2 years and that was with the old car.

To be honest though my Blyth set up won't be far off the mark.

Elvo's the one you want a set up from for there.

E.

Arn0 08-06-2010 10:07 PM

For Kampenhout, you can have Tom Cockerill, Wonderflupke (Belgium driver) Craig Harris and Matthew White setups here, Elvo setups there.

HTH

jas1 11-06-2010 08:42 PM

Ust been upto rhr oople meeting track to try x6 for 1st time, my basic setup was what ellis posted afew days back, I'm running yellow spikes all round, and the car is grip rolling when pushed, I will get hold of some staggered ribs in the morning but what else can be done to reduce grip roll if needed, cheers

sparrow.2 11-06-2010 08:51 PM

Give it a touch more camber or cut a row of spikes off the outside.

Either that or slow down for the corners ;)

super__dan 11-06-2010 09:08 PM

Wise words above, you DEFO want the outer row off the rear tyres AND stagger ribs on the front. That and try not to 90deg the corners, blend from one to the other.

jas1 11-06-2010 09:22 PM

Cheers guys, I will bear the slowing down bit in mind, lol. But didn't think I was over doing it too much, hopefully the staggered ribs will sort the car

Durango 12-06-2010 09:26 AM

Hey guys,

Do someone have a good setup for Langenfeld (Germany)??

Greets - Daniel

RS Concept 02-07-2010 06:38 AM

Dusty but very smooth...
 
Hi Guys.

Does anybody has usable setup for very smooth but very dusty track.

Mainly we use proline bowtie tires.

Unfortunately on my X6sq I use TRF shocks with Asso springs, but Ill try to optimalize it to Losi shocks setup.

Thanks in advance.

Dave Dodd 07-07-2010 11:29 AM

hi.
has anyone got a basic setup that works on worn out patchy grass/dirt etc.

Cheers Dave

The_doctor 12-08-2010 12:17 AM

low grip!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RS Concept (Post 390910)
Hi Guys.

Does anybody has usable setup for very smooth but very dusty track.

Mainly we use proline bowtie tires.

Unfortunately on my X6sq I use TRF shocks with Asso springs, but Ill try to optimalize it to Losi shocks setup.

Thanks in advance.


Hi mic from Australia here
ive posted a low grip setup on the hi from aussie land forum

i run asso no 1 pistons in the rear of my losi shocks with white springs and losi 27.5 oil with 3* toein block and find my car has heaps of grip!!!
on the front red springs with asso no 2 piston or 56 losi and 30w oil ...
if im looking for more grip i will go to the longest link on the rear inside hole on bulkhead and outside hole on hub !! but i find it has too........much grip then! short wheelbase rear arms and hubs!!!
the set up on the forum is the setup i used at our newly built track and the grip was very low and the temp was around 12* all day!!! try asso browns front and green rear some times i would run asso black on the rear when i ran asso shocks (same oils F 30w R 30w if u r useing black springs also run the B44 rear spring retainers as the black springs are very soft and u will run out of threeds on the shock!)

Happy racing
MIC Salis
X Factory Australia Melbourne

janus_77 06-01-2011 07:27 AM

Base setup for Charleroi - EIR
 
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This is a base setup for the EIR track.

The setup is for normal human use, if you like your car to be more agressive :thumbsup: use the "notes/rants/excuses" section.

RS Concept 09-01-2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janus_77 (Post 449261)
This is a base setup for the EIR track.

The setup is for normal human use, if you like your car to be more agressive :thumbsup: use the "notes/rants/excuses" section.

Hello.

why I can not open this file?....:(

janus_77 10-01-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RS Concept (Post 450564)
Hello.

why I can not open this file?....:(

Dunno, works fine here.

Anyone else having problems with it ?

Cooper 10-01-2011 11:02 AM

it works here.

skyaflake 10-01-2011 12:05 PM

Works like a charm, are you sure you have a PDF reader (eg Adobe) installed?

leelar 17-10-2011 08:50 PM

can anyone point me in the direction of an indoor set up for a X6 squared i have had a look but can not seem to find one

Nic And 19-10-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by leelar (Post 568545)
can anyone point me in the direction of an indoor set up for a X6 squared i have had a look but can not seem to find one

What kind of indoor? Carpet, polished floor, Wood?

leelar 19-10-2011 07:19 AM

sorry should have said it was mostly carpet with a bit of floor

Nic And 19-10-2011 07:15 PM

Some setups are on Petit site
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/xfactor...factoryX6.html

leelar 19-10-2011 09:18 PM

Cheers:)

colmo 07-01-2012 07:38 PM

I'm trying to nail down a setup for the X6^2 on a predominantly polished wood track.

It's on mini-spikes f/r, standard astro setup, Losi shocks, and already going well thanks to a tip about running a bit of toe-out. I'd still like more turn-in for the tight corners - would more anti-squat and setting the front camber link to it's longest (inner hole) be the best place to start?

I'm guessing the best front shock position is inner hole on the tower?

ianjoyner 17-01-2012 01:19 PM

Ellis, could you post your setup / any findings for the Area 51 race?

Thanks.

Big E 17-01-2012 07:12 PM

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Here you go.

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ianjoyner 18-01-2012 01:08 PM

Cheers, with the T LiPo layout, which way up was the T?

Having the front brass did the overall weight distribution end up further forward than 35/65?

The X6 seems to generate so much forward traction, I've been thinking of moving mass forwards.

Big E 18-01-2012 05:16 PM

Top of the T is at the back in the stick pack area with the other part in the forward cell area.

Yeah way more front weight and a lot less overall weight than it used to run at.

colmo 18-01-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ianjoyner (Post 608951)
Cheers, with the T LiPo layout, which way up was the T?

Having the front brass did the overall weight distribution end up further forward than 35/65?

The X6 seems to generate so much forward traction, I've been thinking of moving mass forwards.

It's an easier mod than the saddle configuration, less material to remove. I presume the speed controller has to go to one side now?

Big E 18-01-2012 06:59 PM

Yep, speedo one side receiver PT other side, I think it looks a lot nicer to be honest than the saddle layout.

Also you can go back to stick across the rear without doing anything which can be helpful outdoors if it suddenly rains.

You have to be careful though not to take too much of the aerial mount away.

colmo 18-01-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E (Post 609108)
Yep, speedo one side receiver PT other side, I think it looks a lot nicer to be honest than the saddle layout.

Also you can go back to stick across the rear without doing anything which can be helpful outdoors if it suddenly rains.

You have to be careful though not to take too much of the aerial mount away.

How do you retain the cells? I've been looking at various layouts that will hold my fat 31mm high saddles without fouling the shell. Might need to make a custom set of straps.

Darren Boyle 18-01-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by colmo (Post 609145)
How do you retain the cells? I've been looking at various layouts that will hold my fat 31mm high saddles without fouling the shell. Might need to make a custom set of straps.


LIPO's are held in with our Carbon Fibre battery strap designed for NIMH type cells (XF1224), this is ideal for the job.

Ellis has also added some small alloy posts to the underside of his to stop any possible side to side movement on impact etc

super__dan 19-01-2012 08:40 AM

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I did mine with just a screw and nut coming down from the battery brace, conviniently the spacing of the letters means you can get it just right and retain securley. I used some of the RMWB cone washers and nuts with a screw so it looks pretty stealth (note they aren't on the pic below).

Just to echo you need to be carefull not to remove too much of the serial mount, or relocate it somewhere.

chrispattinson 27-03-2012 03:34 PM

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I wonder if anyone can help solve a handling issue I may or may not have. Please consider that this is probably due to my driving (in)ability.

I am using the setup attached on my X6 sqd. with new cut staggers, and new yellow minispikes.

Running at RHR, entering the sweeper at the end of the straight, in the latter part of the corner, the back of the car would slide slightly (lifting inside rear wheel) scrubbing off speed.

Coming out of a hairpin, accelerating medium / hard the inside wheel will lift, rear of the car scrubbing sideways slightly (as if the outside front / rear is collapsing and lifting the inside rear and diffing out).

I imagine Im not using the smoothest lines, but is there anything I can do to prevent this in my setup?

Thanks in advance.

super__dan 27-03-2012 09:43 PM

Can you repost setup in older version of word please?

Three things having not seen the setup, weight balance front rear, anti roll bar rear and I was not a big fan of cut staggers at RHR. They were far to much when I tried them last year, old style staggers (any usually not even new ones) were my front tyre of choice.

chrispattinson 28-03-2012 09:46 AM

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Sorry, double post

chrispattinson 28-03-2012 09:51 AM

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Hi Dan,

The word document is attached again here.

Regarding your thoughts:

Weight balance - can you explain how this maybe causing this behavior? I am running Rudebits weight kit, with all weights loaded behind servo, and weight under speedo with saddle pack config. I was thinking I could do with removing some of the servo weight.

I'll try unpopping the roll bar.

And I'll try regular stagger ribs at RHR, just out of interest, what front tyre will you be starting on at Stotfold if dry?

Thanks again. Chris.

super__dan 28-03-2012 12:29 PM

Ref staggers then I'll be on old style staggers at Stofold (assuming it's dry) and would be on pretty much most astro. The cut stagger I think have more grip (too much front balance for me) and can be quite grabby. I've heard the centro is quite understeery so they need the cut stagger, or it suits that car more anyway but for me doesn't suit the X6.

If the rear is collapsing then I'd stiffen it with a red spring and increase to a 1.2mm roll bar (this is my standard roll bar, I found anything much less and I couldn't feel the difference on track). As your going to normal staggers anyway if this gives you more steering it shouldn't be too much of an issue. I also ran 32.5wt oil front and rear mostly last year on staggers, this is a slight increase to the rear which will probably match the red spring better.

Lastly don't be afraid of running your diff tighter than normal. For years I ran my diff only just tight enough that it wasn't slipping but now I run it tighter again by choice. This is particularly the case in 4wd to be fair but also counts in 2wd.

Lastly ref weight you'll see in the other thread I'm going to try a stubby pack in my car this year to lighten it up a bit. Went well at Bury on Sunday though time will tell if this works better for me everywhere.

chrispattinson 28-03-2012 02:29 PM

Thanks Dan for the comprehensive reply.

I'll be trying a few of your suggestions, though it looks like Stotfold will be my testbed. I'll start on standard stagger ribs, and I'll tighten the diff a little.
I'll look to go to 32.5 weight in the rear, and reduce servo weight as the day goes on.
Thanks again.

Big E 28-03-2012 04:54 PM

Dan's pretty much covered most of it Chris.

We are both going in to new lipo layouts and running less weight in the cars but with more forward bias which seems to be pretty good so far, although the real test will be Stotfold national.

super__dan 28-03-2012 05:55 PM

Just to add, at Bury on the weekend I had a Trishbits brass front bulkhead, front brace and a weight on top so total nose weight about 65g


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