Fair enough but its an expensive maybe for racers that don't care about replacing there cells every year???

when the rule was changed, then that should of been that, any cell on the list should of had two years grace, not re-submitted and passed again. It would of forced matchers to look elsewhere for cells, it is funny how all these new cells have appeared all of a sudden.

thats my gripe, the cells I bought should never of been homologated in 2007.

well I am going to have a fire in the back garden chuck the 20 packs I have on and use them as firecrackers :thumbsup:

It is a bummer many people's cells are not on the list, but we are only talking Nationals. Bear with me. Which means 5 runs per race day, not counting practice, which isnt scrutineerd.
Now 2 sets of new cells would easily do all the Nationals, thats 60 charges if you do all 6 which means each cell would be charged 30 times. Which is possible.
At the Worlds many top drivers wer only given 2 or 3 sets of new cells for the whole week. They never had any problems charging a set many times on the same day.
So yes you are going to have to buy new cells if yours are not on the list, but let's face it, the UK National series is the premire series in the UK and probably the premire series Euorpe!!!!!
I think most people could come up with enough money for 2 sets of cells, and use their other cells for the Regionals!!!!!!

This has got people going! I have two questions if anyone can help:

1. If the new cells are "slower", due to being smaller, is there any chance of them being made legal early. All my 2007 packs have died but 1, and I wanted to do the indoor finals. I don't really want to spend money on cells just for one meeting??

Secondly, Orion have 4200 SHO and also a separate 4200EU08 SHO, do we know if both are legal, the list confused me?

You can use 2007 spec cells at the indoor finals, the new cell rule comes in after this event:)

Sorry Dave, my problem is all my 2007 spec ones are dying a death!! Either way I need to buy new batteries, but if I buy the 2007 spec they will be illegal after one meeting :(.

Having said that, if some of the manufacturers have made the new ones better I can totally see why they don't become immediately legal.

Dave

its only the 08 version blue/white heat shrink that will be legal!
part no ori 11562, pek43174 (top spec) pek 43173 (racer spec)

Phew, I have one of those so I gambled and it paid off there!

"huge sigh" my cells packed up on me last week and i bit the bullet and orderd the new EP4600 before seeing this and was worried that i would get stuck but i am dead chuffed my cells are on the list i was worried for a while :)

My wallet has been dried up lately its so light it will blow away in the wind now after i get new cells :o after this my money better bump up again :) :thumbsup:

mike, wtf? :wtf:

Stanton did a whole nationals season on 2 packs the other year, with common sense and a fan you can do that IMHO, I'm considering doing it on 3 packs and using current cells for regionals only.

I can understand people not being happy in certain circumstances but overall for drawing a line in the sand somewhere I think the BRCA have dealt with this very well. And the new cell list is excellent formatting!

Personally I'm interested by the not allowing NEEDING tools to remove cells, I didn't know that was coming.

What is this going to do to attendance at the EOY Finals?
Many racers at the F3/4/5s only race regionals so do not need new cell this year, but they will be forced to buy cells in September to enter.
Buying new cells in September is a bad idea apparently.

If Callum wants to race at the Juniors this year (he will) he will have to have legal cells. He currently uses very old GP33's and does not need the extra speed that new cells will give him.

Good point Dom - Imagine vicky with some new cells :wtf: She's already running a 'barely legal' motor that was the slowest thing I could find and I'm not actually sure it's strictly speaking ever been on a list. Mabuchi 540 - but a new one.

Good point dom.... Didn't really think about end of season finals!

Looks like theres no point in me racing at regionals this year, kinda wasted effort if I can't attend End of Year finals, as Dom points out.

Gutted :(

mark

the list states that the cells are the only one's approved for 2008 national event's. not end of season finals/indoor final's/f2's/juniors-vets.
on the rule page the national's are classed as seperate type of event. in the past you havent been able to run brushless at national's but could at all other events so i would assume the case is the same with cell's

sure PW will confirm either way

That's from the EFRA agm. Rule was adopted that all batteries needed to be wired with connectors, so no hard-wiring.
(Hard-wiring, needing a tool [soldering iron] to remove cells)

Driver and public safety was the reason behind this.

MiCk B. :-)

if the cells are going mental inside the car, there is no way im taking the shell of to remove them without tools, let the car burn.

I think the idea is for when it's the car going mental not the cells.