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Mike Hudson 14-01-2008 05:49 PM

Still waiting for mine and mattys x6 upgrades since the 16th of december :(

trekkerkk 14-01-2008 06:27 PM

same here :(

trekkker

Chequered Flag Racing 14-01-2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E (Post 84482)
Oh, and gear it up 3 teeth on that motor :cool:

been running a 6.5b on 19/81, just popped in a 7.5s and it's on 21/81

should I gear them both up for indoors Ellis?

Big E 14-01-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyM (Post 84489)
Are you still running the same old set-up Ellis?

can't wait for my new X6 stuff to turn up :D

It pretty much is the same set up yeah, We have a slightly different rear shock set up now and I have changed a few things to give less rear end now as we don't need it so much with the 4 gear but otherwise yeha the same.

Big E 14-01-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 84514)
been running a 6.5b on 19/81, just popped in a 7.5s and it's on 21/81

should I gear them both up for indoors Ellis?

I run a 21/81 on a 6.5. I ran that gearing at Worksop as well and it was fine. If it was a small hall then maybe a 20 but no lower than that. For a 7.5 go 1 or 2 teeth higher, so if you had a 21 on a 6.5 then go to a 23.

E.

bigred5765 14-01-2008 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E (Post 84481)
Your set up sheet says you had a spacer under the front of the gearbox only.

Is that right??

If you have the new gearbox and the new rear tower you should have the same spacer front and rear!!!

tried putting spacers in the front and rear but it makes the gearbox lean forward, its level that way it does sit on top of the shock tower though
we started one a 21 and dropped it a tooth or two every round, small track way to over geared

Chrislong 14-01-2008 10:12 PM

It shouldn't do Carl mate, the 4 gear has a step in the lugs (by 0.03") but the new bulkhead is 0.03" thicker, so the gearbox should mount flat. Its only when you mix up new/old parts when the shimmage needs to be different front to rear to compensate.... easy tho.

I use 0.06" shims front and rear.

Big E 14-01-2008 10:17 PM

Yeah as Chris says you need to take a look at that as it shouldn't do that.

Like I said before with the new tower and 4 gear tranny you should use matching shims front to back, or non if you set it like mine :p

Chrislong 14-01-2008 10:29 PM

None? :o

bigred5765 14-01-2008 10:33 PM

that would be why then as I'm using new box and new tower with a .3 spacer under front,the gap under the drive shafts is even,

Big E 15-01-2008 07:25 AM

No, with the new tower and new box you have equal shims, so if you have .3 at the front you should have .3 at the rear as well.

Just take them all out and you will be good :)

AmiSMB 15-01-2008 12:27 PM

What heatsinks fit in the X-6 now that the new gearbox has even less space between the motor and transmission case? Is there any news on the use of the two extra threaded holes in the 4 gear transmission motor mount. I have heard that it could be for a fan but cannot see how it can be done as yet.

Gayo 15-01-2008 12:35 PM

I still don't understand how this setup (tranny height) is supposed to work :wtf:. I find the explanations on the assembly book confusing. What are your thoughts ?

When on power, the bones "want" to be level. So if the tranny is high, the car will squat under power. And if it's low, the rear will stay flat on power. Does it sounds logical to you X-6 users ? My brain hurts ! :p

Big E 15-01-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmiSMB (Post 84683)
What heatsinks fit in the X-6 now that the new gearbox has even less space between the motor and transmission case? Is there any news on the use of the two extra threaded holes in the 4 gear transmission motor mount. I have heard that it could be for a fan but cannot see how it can be done as yet.

You can fit the Nosram big heatsink with a little bit of work, I run this on hot days.

I know what the 2 holes are for as I designed some of the plate shape and put the 2 holes in but I am sworn to secrecy for the moment :p

Big E 15-01-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayo (Post 84687)
I still don't understand how this setup (tranny height) is supposed to work :wtf:. I find the explanations on the assembly book confusing. What are your thoughts ?

When on power, the bones "want" to be level. So if the tranny is high, the car will squat under power. And if it's low, the rear will stay flat on power. Does it sounds logical to you X-6 users ? My brain hurts ! :p

Basically, the higher you raise the tranny the more grip/drive you get but the worse the car will be at taking the bumps, especially high speed ripply ones.

So obviously the lower the less grip but the better on the bumps.

I would suggest to most people that have now gone to the 4 gear to lower their tranny a little if you had it raised. I currently run no washers and even on slick wet astro I have plenty of rear end grip but because it is low the car goes nicely through all the bumps as well.

rcracer 15-01-2008 01:53 PM

Mine is going to arrive tomorrow :)

AmiSMB 15-01-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E (Post 84693)
You can fit the Nosram big heatsink with a little bit of work, I run this on hot days.

I know what the 2 holes are for as I designed some of the plate shape and put the 2 holes in but I am sworn to secrecy for the moment :p

Looking forward to seeing what you have come up with.

Out of interest what was the heatsink you were running at the MK GP in December?

Big E 15-01-2008 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmiSMB (Post 84700)
Looking forward to seeing what you have come up with.

Out of interest what was the heatsink you were running at the MK GP in December?

That was the Nosram one. I didn't really need it but to be honest I just leave it on as I don't often change from the 6.5 I use in it.

Mike Hudson 15-01-2008 04:26 PM

Picking up myn and matts later this evening if not 2moro:) will build it 2moro or later 2nyt :D

dfank 15-01-2008 05:13 PM

@ Big E

The gearing you recommend with the 6.5 (81/21) is for the sintered rotor right?


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