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drinternat 05-12-2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 74913)
That's pretty crazy when you think about it. I bought mine overseas - if someone wants to give me one for free to review go for it, but I already have too many cars than I have time for - I need to get a car asap (hence overseas - stalled launches are a new thing on me!) and cheap as possible since I spend far far farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrr too much on oople.com as it is.

if I could steal the thing I would.:p

You would think the maunfactureres like Tamiya would be hapy to give you one to build and review, even if you had to give them back, just like computer mags are given stuff. Do they not know the importance of this site to us and how many hits you get on it.!!!!!!!

Peasey 05-12-2007 08:23 AM

Anyone who's built up their Durga find that the 23T pinion is a long shank type and doesn't fit on the 540 stock motor shaft?

Also Tamiya have done the usual and put metal bushings for the steering so best to order a 4pk of 850 bearings at the same time as the kit.

drinternat 05-12-2007 08:33 AM

You know I cant believe how stupid i've been. I should have sent Jimmy the kit I bought for assembley / review and he could have either sent the complete car back or replaced the kit to me when his came over from the land far away!!!! Dah!!!!!

wayneski 05-12-2007 09:06 AM

let me get this straight in my fuzzy old brain box.

x1 V Parts: 51280 (includes 2)
x1 W Parts: 51281 (includes 2)
x1 X Parts: 51282 (includes 2)
x1 Damper Parts Bag: 9404701

These are the parts for the 501x shocks enough to make 1 pair.
Now forgive my ignorance (again!!) but are the shocks same front and rear?
So really I need to order 2 each of the above yes? (part confusion make wayneski Maaaaad!)

Carlos69 05-12-2007 09:07 AM

From RC Champ
"Tamiya says they will release optional damper set for DB01 around February"

DCM 05-12-2007 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peasey (Post 74936)
Anyone who's built up their Durga find that the 23T pinion is a long shank type and doesn't fit on the 540 stock motor shaft?

Also Tamiya have done the usual and put metal bushings for the steering so best to order a 4pk of 850 bearings at the same time as the kit.

the smaller pinion is for the silver can motor....

gargadud 05-12-2007 09:27 PM

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Quote:

et me get this straight in my fuzzy old brain box.

x1 V Parts: 51280 (includes 2)
x1 W Parts: 51281 (includes 2)
x1 X Parts: 51282 (includes 2)
x1 Damper Parts Bag: 9404701

These are the parts for the 501x shocks enough to make 1 pair.
Now forgive my ignorance (again!!) but are the shocks same front and rear?
So really I need to order 2 each of the above yes? (part confusion make wayneski Maaaaad!)
wayneski,It will make the 4 dampers (see pic of the damper bag)

A.J. Gee 05-12-2007 10:06 PM

I really think that some of us need to get in touch with Tamiya and let them know the importance of Jimmy's reviews for their products here on oople. I have got to say that he does a very good job with his reviews and not to mention the time that he invests putting in to them. Tamiya is not obligated to do anything for him since he obviously doesnt work for them, but at the same time i think that they should recognize the good that he does for their company. A free kit for the upcoming Durga review and for future releases of tamiyas models i dont think is a far fetched idea. Maybe we can start a petition or something for Jimmy. Anyways keep up the good work, because you do a damn good job. You should work for an RC magazine.

jimmy 05-12-2007 10:13 PM

if there was a 'gold star' function on vbulletin I think you'd be getting several! lol :p Seriously though, in terms of the Durga it would have been nice even to buy a car when they (tamiya) had one - which I'm told is at least a couple of months. Oh well! :p

A.J. Gee 05-12-2007 10:43 PM

Do you have one on the way Jimmy? I was also wondering why you want to buy one from tamiya anyways? Why not just buy one from the many shops that they distribute them to?

DCM 05-12-2007 10:48 PM

Tamiya Global release has worked this time, otherwise Jimmy and I would be some of the first in the world to get an official release db01... as it is, they have been strict this time, and long gone now, are the days of RC-Champ getting you stuff days, if not weeks before the rest of the world.

I got me a set of TRF shocks on order now...

jimmy 05-12-2007 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamiya Slave (Post 75120)
Do you have one on the way Jimmy? I was also wondering why you want to buy one from tamiya anyways? Why not just buy one from the many shops that they distribute them to?

Like DCM said - I wanna get one as soon as I can so I can start reviewing it - which takes a while. Tamiya have had it finished for a couple of months and sitting on shelves / sent out to magazines for review. If I could buy one direct the review would be just about done by now :)

I don't have one on the way no. I have..... Three.. Don't ask :rolleyes:

DCM 05-12-2007 11:03 PM

three.... thats gone up from two... has the boss ordered one too?

jimmy 05-12-2007 11:08 PM

I thought I told you ! lol, never mind.. no one's for sale, ones for review, ones for giveaway madness :)

A.J. Gee 05-12-2007 11:42 PM

Im not to sure it matters to me when you get the buggy reviewd, since i have mine on the way. I appreciate the reviews just as much after i am done building, as was the case with the keen hawk. I guess you were probably pretty late with that review since the dark impact had already been out for a bit before the hawk. Im sitting here thinking to myself, whats 1 measley kit to a huge company like tamiya worth anyways. I will try to see at some point this week if i can give tamiya an email asking them what they think on this subject matter. Not only am i doing this for Jimmy, but i would like to see personally what they have to say.

DCM 05-12-2007 11:51 PM

cause in a mag, they are almost garaunteed a positive review....

Carlos69 06-12-2007 12:03 AM

the best reviews are impartial ones....if they gave me a freebie my impartiality may be compromised (or maybe percieved as compromised).... having said that, ......I'd never look a gift horse in the mouth (whatever the hell that means ?!) ;)

bender 06-12-2007 03:23 AM

I got mine yesterday. Have finished building the transmission (including slipper as I got one with the kit) and will start work on the suspension tonight.

The drivetrain is very smooth, including the diffs. No surprises here considering it uses all the new 501 pulleys. I did what was mentioned on the previous page and glue the diff rings to the plastic holder -the manual does actually tell you to do this. I also installed ceramic balls in the rear diff.

The car is also supplied with a 91t spur, I think that the original 501x 96t spur gear may be too big to fit (ie: rub on the chassis)

The drivetrain is not 100% sealed either. Front and rear cases are good but the central "tunnel" has a couple of small gaps - a bit of foam should sort this out. Also, there are two unused holes in the motor mount (for the optional belt tensioner kit) - they probably sould have included some plugs for these holes.

Speaking of plugs, the lower motor screw access hole is covered by just a piece of tape, again, Tamiya probably should've included a XX4 style rubber plug.

The shock towers were a big surprise as they are very stiff - not like the DF03 ones at all. The rear tower only flexes very slightly in the middle but otherwise both are very beefy and should even be good enough for competition use.

The use of seperate pieces for attaching the front and rear suspension is also a big improvement over the df03, and also allows front caster adjustments to be made - even the 501 didn't have this ;)

The only dissapointing part is that tamiya have omited many of the small metal spacers used between bearings, inside diffs, ball studs etc and replaced them with less-precise plastic ones. I know they have to make it to a budget but I seriously doubt removing 10 or so metal spacers is going to make a big difference to the cost of the kit.

Otherwise the car all looks good, and to be honest with only a few "required" hop-ups I can see this car performing just as well on track as the 501x.

Bsr241 06-12-2007 03:58 AM

Hello, New to this forum but have been lurking for quit a while. I took my Durga out for it's shakedown last night and have to say that I'm pretty satisfied with it. My driving is not the best (usually awful) but buggy took everything I could dish out and came back for more. Much more durable than Lazer that I have been using. Minor complaints- the diffs move up and down in their mounts a little bit, steering a little sloppy, body sitting down on chassis does not leave room for taller electronics. Just need to get the slipper and shocks and I'll be set for club racing.:)
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7016/s7300071fs4.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6127/s7300072dj3.jpg

Peasey 06-12-2007 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 74951)
the smaller pinion is for the silver can motor....

Yeah, read that in the side bar but to me it seems kinda strange to have two different types of pinions. I was hoping use the 23T for racing in our 540 stock class this weekend as that would be in the right ballpark (a 24T would be ideal) and I don't have anything smaller than a 27T. Off to the LHS I guess....

wayneski 06-12-2007 07:47 AM

Hello again all,
Just another small piece of advice.
Rc champ can supply the kit slipper and 501x shocks, or I can get the kit from stella and the rest from tamiya shop switzerland. Price is much of a muchness.
From your experience, which is likely to deliver faster? Also which is least likely to get trapped in customs?

Cheers

wayneski 06-12-2007 12:50 PM

anyone?

A.J. Gee 06-12-2007 11:21 PM

I was wondering if anyone could steer me in the direction of getting the proper servo for my Durga. I already have decided on the brand ( Hitec), but was wondering if i should go with the HS625 mg speed servo or the the HS645 mg tourque servo? I dont race, but i still like to have the best setup possible for personal use. Let me know please. Thanks.

RogerM 06-12-2007 11:38 PM

625mg should be fine for your use. I've used Hitec servos for many, many years and swear by them!!

A.J. Gee 06-12-2007 11:56 PM

Thanks a lot Roger. That was the servo that i was aiming towards, but just needed some confirmation. I like Hitec as well, since i have never had any problems with their receivers.

wayneski 07-12-2007 07:43 AM

not deliberately trying to be a pain, just want to get the thing ordered. Advice on which is better Rc champ or stella (delivery times, customs etc) would be appreciated. Then I will shut up (at least until it arrives!

Cheers

DCM 07-12-2007 08:01 AM

stella, my orders always come quick through ems.... rc-champ order is racking up charges in customs..... been there all week.

wayneski 07-12-2007 08:11 AM

Thanks DCM Stella it is. Will get the shocks etc from Tamiya switzerland!

Carlos69 07-12-2007 10:14 PM

3racing DB01 hopups:
http://www.3racing.com.hk/x_products...Tamiya%20DB-01

DCM 07-12-2007 10:31 PM

the shock towers will be good, but I would steer clear of the the alloy suspension bits, they are not normaly very good.

edit: parcelfarce have finally released my db01.... with charges.... thanks rc-champ... rcmart will get my business next time.... I would of had the kit by now.

veecee 07-12-2007 10:39 PM

Durga instructions are available to download for those interested - http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download/rc_index.htm

Carlos69 07-12-2007 11:02 PM

hey Vince,... will I see another Durga at Snives '08 ?

jimmy 08-12-2007 01:19 AM

bit off topic but anyone got a painted durga shell they could bring (and not need to use) to the Hot Bodies race this weekend? :rolleyes:

Bsr241 08-12-2007 06:00 AM

Well, first race night with the car ended after a tumble in the first heat. Broke the rear shock tower where the wing mount screws pass through it. Those 3racing shock towers are looking pretty interesting right now. Can't seem to find replacement in stock here in U.S. Might have to try to fabricate something until parts are available. Back to the Lazer for now.:(
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/8750/s7300074in8.jpg
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/5682/s7300075nx3.jpg

wayneski 08-12-2007 09:50 AM

How'd she perform before the mishap?

Toonz 08-12-2007 09:52 AM

oh my......:eh?:

what happen??

by the way what is the color of the kit springs?

DCM 08-12-2007 10:12 AM

jeeez... my kit will be here Tuesday.... £30 of charges made up of £13.50 handling fee and the rest as vat.... last time I use rc-champ.

budgio 08-12-2007 10:50 AM

Just received mine this morning.Paid for it nov 16th and received it dec 8th.Will deffo use Stella next time.Now for the slipper/cvd hunt.

RogerM 08-12-2007 11:21 AM

DCM ..... that's not bad for charges .... after all you live in the UK and we pay vat here .... surely you assumed you'd have to pay it?!?!?!?!?!

DCM 08-12-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 75658)
DCM ..... that's not bad for charges .... after all you live in the UK and we pay vat here .... surely you assumed you'd have to pay it?!?!?!?!?!

When I notmaly buy, I use rcmart or stella and don't normally incur charges, I don't mind the VAT but £13.50 for parcelfare I don't like


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