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dont know if anyone will have one but if anyones got a video of the 2wd k final could they send it to me please :)

Ed is an ex Electric national driver, few years back now. He would most certainly be a known quantity to the section committee.

It is a different class, But its still the same thing, They obviously knew somthing as he was in the top heat.[/QUOTE]

So are you wanting all F1s banned regardless of class?

So are you wanting all F1s banned regardless of class?[/QUOTE]


So there was more than one then

So are you wanting all F1s banned regardless of class?[/QUOTE]

Errrmmm, absolutley, i dont really think its fair to have an ex F1 from however many years ago they were an F1 to be able to compete at either the 345s or the F2s.

Isnt the 345 competition supposed to be a competition of 345 standard drivers? Its a bit unfair if an ex F1 comes as they are more than likely to be top 5, im not having a dig at any ex F1 driver who has won recently or in the past, just my opinion!

So there was more than one then[/QUOTE]

Again F1s from how long ago etc?

We've got some ex F1 TC racers at our club and they've struggled. My point being is that just because they are an F1 in another class doesn't mean they can deliver in 1/10th off road.

Equally we have another F1 TC driver at TORCH who has adjusted and is fast.

My mate is also an ex TC IC star, but has long since retired so he's turned his hand to off road, so should he not be permitted???

Errrmmm, absolutley, i dont really think its fair to have an ex F1 from however many years ago they were an F1 to be able to compete at either the 345s or the F2s.

Isnt the 345 competition supposed to be a competition of 345 standard drivers? Its a bit unfair if an ex F1 comes as they are more than likely to be top 5, im not having a dig at any ex F1 driver who has won recently or in the past, just my opinion![/QUOTE]

Charlie Frazer said to Ashley its about time someone not ex F1 driver to get the F345 trophey . Most of the Names on the trophey were ex F1 that had had time off from racing.They are still bloody quick drivers if they were F1s at sometime in there racing career.

And hats off to Ashley for getting it done :) and he beat the lot including any ex F1 or F2s!

We've got some ex F1 TC racers at our club and they've struggled. My point being is that just because they are an F1 in another class doesn't mean they can deliver in 1/10th off road.

Equally we have another F1 TC driver at TORCH who has adjusted and is fast.

My mate is also an ex TC IC star, but has long since retired so he's turned his hand to off road, so should he not be permitted???[/QUOTE]


TC i can understand them strugling as they race on flat ground. You stated that he was a F1 1/8th driver which i think is very simlar as they run on the same sort of tracks. Anyway im with chris have to agree mate.

I don't really want to get drawn into this.

Essentially well done to both winners, well done to the club and well done to the BRCA :)

Great final lap by Ross too :)

I'm and F5 and always have been :) and prob will be.

Not taking sides on the F1/F2 issue but if you feel strongly about it then propose a rule change at the Section AGM.

In 1/8th there is no formulas like we have in 1/10th.
I am sure there is a rule that if a F1 within the past 5 years then one cannot compete. Then there is another rule demoting of peoples formulars so that makes them eligible in years to come.
I understand many thinking that if once a F1 driver then you have a certain amount of skill but i can assure you that if you have a break away from the sport, it takes in my opinion even more effort to get to the level one was therefore the rules are OK.
Like someone else has already suggested - if you don't like the rule then suggest another for the AGM that is nearly upon us.

If there is a rule that needs to be changed or added is that all competotors for these events (F3/4/5 and F2s) should at least compete at the regional events of that year to qualify. Even at only the one meeting. That rule is not currently in place!!

would it not be better to get your F grade after the regionals,then enter the finals for that grade,rather than be given the F2 for next year,but be an F3,4,5 finals on last years F grade,if an old F1 races through the year they will be in the right final at the end of the year,

It would make sense and would be true to the time frame too but I am sure there is a reason for the F grades to be active FROM the beginning of the following year.
I agree though - it should be from the end of the regionals and Nationals for the end of year FINALS

That still wouldnt help the fact that some people are un happy about ex F1's been in the meeting that have been demoted etc. due to not racing or changing class.

Let's be honest you're not going to please / satisfy everyones requirements.

I know it only my option but if a returning racer decided to enter a eos final they can only drop one formula as surely they is a chance for them if they are a little rusty but should still be able to race with others with the same level of skill.

I dunno how the Brca would keep track of this tho !

Didn't Charlie Ware win last year? i wasn't aware he was ex-F1 (if he is my apologies)

Hi All.
I am trying to pick up on a number of points here.
1. The 1/10th section year runs from January 1st to 31st Dec. to allow all regional reps time to administer their region, calculate regional results and F Grades prior to verification by the Section for publication ,usually October/November time each year for the following year. Admin takes time and there are 11 Regions to coordinate, so this would be impossible to achieve prior to the End of Season Finals each year.
2. It is a fact that the F345 event is often won by returning drivers. The current rules forbid any ex-F1 entering within the previous five years F grade time frame (effectively six years). Indeed any F1 who has achieved a top 15 1/10th Off-Road National Result (top 15 for a series) can never enter the F345's.
These are the restrictions which are currently in place but as has been said - rule changes can be made at the AGM each year.
3. How do the BRCA 1/10th Off-Road Section keep track on drivers formula's etc over time - meticulous records kept by the Section Chairman.
I hope this answers a few concerns.
Regards

Hi Big G.
You are of course right and I said the same thing to Charlie Ware last year at Silverstone.

i have spoke to Ed kerry an he said he has not done much electric the past 6 years i no that he has only done 1 race meetin this year at EPR to get in to this meeting you guys need to stop all the biching just say well done to him as he was the best on the day now stop all this an go get a life its toy car racing!!!

EoE had a good day. Our intention was to spread as many drivers across as many finals as possible and to ensure that no-one from the our region deprived anyone from another region of a trophy. In that mission we succeeded brilliantly (even if it is a little post-hoc in it's mission!)

Track was a tricky bugger for some of us non-astro folk but started to get the hang of it in the end. Especially the double going away from you, blind drop and tight corner. 4 heats and 2 laps it took to get that nailed consistently, but made it all the more satisfying!

High points - getting the hang of it in the final to get from way-out-back-dog-last to threatening 1st place. One more lap!

Low points - Getting massively outqualified by my own car then watching it get demolished by the same driver at the end of the straight - albeit very funny at the same time.

Good fun, really enjoyed it. The commentary in the finals was brilliant!

Well done to the organisers, especially the young lads stuck in that tent, scrutineering ALL DAY.:thumbsup:

I don't think the comments are aimed at ed as a person he has only done what he was allowed to do , alot of ppl have said well done. I think the comments are aimed at the Brca rules , as said unless someone puts something forward nothing will get done .

Cheers for point number 3 Charlie .

same thing happened 2 years ago when Jamie Booth did 4wd and won so not sure what all the fuss is about nobody complained then.

Hi All again.
My point 2. in post 219 isn't quite right. F1's finishing in the top 15 can not drop below F3. That is the rule, not as I said that they could not enter the F345's.
Sorry, I was working from memory which is always dangerous.
Regards.

I'm not complaining about Ed Kerry winning at all but I don't think that an ex F1 should not be allowed to compete at all, regardless of how many years it was that they were an f1, I congratulated Ed personally on his win, it was nice to race with somebody with his capabilities all day in the same heat!
How come you are not allowed to comment anymore on oople without people thinking that you are being a moan or whinging, I'm far from that, I work in a mans world and if there's a problem we talk about it!
Anyway....I'm off to play football with the 10 year olds cos I can beat them!:lol:
Ps, when and where's the AGM?

He raced the 1/10 nationals about 10 or 11 years ago

Long enough ago in my view.


Looking foward to seeing him at EPR this winter.

Any results or pictures yet

Have any of the results been published online etc?

They are on the brca site :thumbsup: http://brca.org/sites/default/files/...mtg2/index.htm

Cool :)

http://www.brca.org/sites/default/fi...mtg2/index.htm

Mikey, see you finished 1 place above me :( Get yeh next year :woot:

2WD or 4WD?

XXCR Kinwald for 2WD :thumbsup: but I could have done better :(

2wd ;) wasn't there on the sunday ! family stuff :blush: Defo give me the umph i needed to do the national's next year, providing i get in :thumbsup:

How do you get to this on the brca site ? the only results i can find are from 2009 !! are they the 4wd results, f2 eos or the 2011 national results in the same place ?

They're on onetenthoffroad.co.uk normally but I doubt they'll be up yet! Anyway have you forgotten you finished second or does your lass not believe you...???

Try this Andy http://brca.org/?q=sections/subsections/results/452

I know where i come just wanted to see how others got on! i did try onetenoffroad.co.uk but i think that is quiet out of date too.

Me 'lass' was there sunday afternoon!

Thats the one , i dunno why i couldnt find it . cheers Andrew