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/tobys 10-09-2010 04:36 PM
yes but that's the hop-up item, unless it's now in kits?

TBH, with brushless, I change the motor so infrequently it's not that much of a hassle - except when I have to change motor or pinion :lol:

DaveG28 10-09-2010 07:38 PM
Hmm, almost looks like there's two distinct options on battery position, though those holes could be for the undertray etc!? Also looks like a full air vent below the motor this time, but what I can't quite see is how that motor position works with the 511 shell they've been running, it won't finunder it will it, the air vent won't line up to fit it under either!? :confused:

GRIFF55 10-09-2010 08:26 PM
The hole under the motor is like most of the shaft drive cars mate. I do think that the 511 shell would fit over the layout. Hey, just go build that other belt drive beauty, you know you want to:thumbsup: Cant go wrong with the 511 mate. Wait and see how this goes

MattADH 10-09-2010 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TRF_AK (Post 412189)
More detail.
Am I right in thinking that on the third image, it looks like the car has more negative camber on the right front than the left...

TRF_AK 10-09-2010 10:52 PM
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The beauty of CAD :p

The TRF511 shell is what the TRF drivers used at the JMRCA.

moth898 11-09-2010 12:41 AM
is it me or does the right seem to be low on both pics....a side effect of the shaft drive tork maybe:thumbdown:

cmgreen 11-09-2010 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Northy (Post 411676)
Loving the BJ4 clone references..... :D

G

The bj4 we shell would even fit :lol:

Mr. Red 11-09-2010 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 412374)
is it me or does the right seem to be low on both pics....a side effect of the shaft drive tork maybe:thumbdown:
He he, my thought exactly. Have been having a discussion on swedish forum regarding the position of the motor. I believe the motor should be placed like on the Durango or Kyosho FS. Think both the B44 and yokes and what not are wrong. And now this. Am I totally wrong or what?

Otherwise this car looks awsome. Especially like the large diffballs bit. Works great on the 511 and touringcars. Much like if you have wide tires on your real car. Better traction.

MRD 11-09-2010 10:57 AM
I can't believe what a B44/BJ4 copy that is. Surely they could have come up with something a bit different.

Thing is those cars were designed with heavy NiMh's in mind. We don't use them anymore so why have the cells at the back so we have to add weight.

Com'on Tamiya. You're getting as bad as Ansmann.

DaveG28 11-09-2010 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MRD (Post 412456)
I can't believe what a B44/BJ4 copy that is. Surely they could have come up with something a bit different.

Thing is those cars were designed with heavy NiMh's in mind. We don't use them anymore so why have the cells at the back so we have to add weight.

Com'on Tamiya. You're getting as bad as Ansmann.
This is the bit I don't get sorry, what did you expect? The suspension/dampers/towers are carry over 511, and when you make it shaft what are your options, motor has to go either front or rear and to the side, rear means putting the cells at the front, they are STILL the heaviest item, you still need them at the back!! It's very difficult to make stick lacks fit past the spur without a very wide car, so what did you think they'd do? It's either a bj4 copy or a Durango copy, that's their two options!

As I said earlier, if you want to have a go about copying, do it about the 501!!

Oh, sorry, forgot, they could have made it plastic and you'd have called it a bmax clone!!

Ultimately, it will almost certainly have unique weight distribution, the top decks are clearly different design/flax, the steering will probably end up being Tamiya (a guess admittedly!), and the suspension carries ver from their own Euro/Brit champ winning 511, what more would you expect?

RBX 11-09-2010 12:04 PM
I wonder if the trf502 will give birth to a DB02 and it will be a plastic chassis shaft driven sport racer Durga II!?? hmmmmmm

MRD 11-09-2010 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 412457)
This is the bit I don't get sorry, what did you expect? The suspension/dampers/towers are carry over 511, and when you make it shaft what are your options, motor has to go either front or rear and to the side, rear means putting the cells at the front, they are STILL the heaviest item, you still need them at the back!! It's very difficult to make stick lacks fit past the spur without a very wide car, so what did you think they'd do? It's either a bj4 copy or a Durango copy, that's their two options!

As I said earlier, if you want to have a go about copying, do it about the 501!!

Oh, sorry, forgot, they could have made it plastic and you'd have called it a bmax clone!!

Ultimately, it will almost certainly have unique weight distribution, the top decks are clearly different design/flax, the steering will probably end up being Tamiya (a guess admittedly!), and the suspension carries ver from their own Euro/Brit champ winning 511, what more would you expect?

I expected something with a bit more individuality, something that stands out as a Tamiya with some forward thinking ideas. I understand that options are limited but Durango and Kyosho managed to differ from the BJ4 and still have good cars.

DaveG28 11-09-2010 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MRD (Post 412556)
I expected something with a bit more individuality, something that stands out as a Tamiya with some forward thinking ideas. I understand that options are limited but Durango and Kyosho managed to differ from the BJ4 and still have good cars.
Until you see them side by side you've no idea how similar the 502 is to the b44 though?

Having said that, I bet when it does happen it turns out to be pretty bloody similar :lol:

Fabs 11-09-2010 03:39 PM
Tamiya never make innovative cars, what they're best at doing is make a car that's a blend of all the good ideas on the market, and add the tamiya quality...

MRD 11-09-2010 03:47 PM
Thats probably right for the TRF cars but the normal stuff is pretty funky like the FF03 Pro with front motor front wheel drive and IFS. They've had some other crackers like the TA03F and the 3Speed High lift.

Thats the reason I own all those cars, I like the oddball stuff :thumbsup:.

Got about 30 tamiyas now.

The new pro drift car is quite tastey too.

Fabs 11-09-2010 03:52 PM
Yes I meant proper TRF cars with numbers, TC and Off Road alike.

Maybe the TRF 211X was a little different but since?

muratti 11-09-2010 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 412566)
Tamiya never make innovative cars, what they're best at doing is make a car that's a blend of all the good ideas on the market, and add the tamiya quality...
They so since a few year, basically since there is TRF. Remember the Avante or the Egress, not as they were good racers but you have to admit they were kind innovative and way ahead of their time.

The 502 is exactly the car i was waiting for since i stopped racing my Top Force Evolution some years ago!! :thumbsup:

DaveG28 11-09-2010 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by muratti (Post 412574)
They so since a few year, basically since there is TRF. Remember the Avante or the Egress, not as they were good racers but you have to admit they were kind innovative and way ahead of their time.

The 502 is exactly the car i was waiting for since i stopped racing my Top Force Evolution some years ago!! :thumbsup:
I'm looking forward to it too, all the negativity on here about shaft drive kind of ignores that before this year the last 3 years uk nationals were won by shaft drive, there's clearly nothing wrong with it! And it's not like the b44/bj4 has been unsuccessful!!

GRIFF55 11-09-2010 04:53 PM
+1. I'm looking forward to seeing/getting one of these in the flesh. Being TRF, it will be hard not to be good, clone or not.
I will be keeping my 511, but have one of these for a play:thumbsup:

njc11 11-09-2010 05:04 PM
Why dont you all look at the Kyosho Lazer FS2...???? Tamiya have seen this car and are worried..:p

Thats shaft drive...

and has a nicer shade of blue too on all the ally bits! :woot::lol:

Kyosho will be a force in 2011!!

:thumbsup:


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