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Vin 08-03-2008 09:46 PM

I agree the stock suspension mounts are crappy and tend to break to easily. However when crashing the energy has to go somewhere... When you crash now the (cheap) suspension mounts break. However with all those nice alu 3racing hop ups won't that result in breakage of the (more expensive en rarer) chassis?:confused::confused:

DCM 08-03-2008 09:49 PM

I don't think the chassis will go, I think the wishbone or hug will go or the suspension pin bends.

gordy 08-03-2008 09:58 PM

Stella haven't got any left now - I just bought the last two sets of each!
At the end of the day if the stock mounts are as bad a people say - you've got to do something about it.
I do agree the load is going to go somewhere else - time will tell where!

Is a spare chassis that hard to come by?

DCM 08-03-2008 10:12 PM

I am surprised KMRC or 3Racing hasn't started to look at a chassis.

The stock mounts aren't that bad, up for the dask of gentle running but no more hard racing really.

Spoolio 09-03-2008 09:51 PM

Spare chassis are freely available at $14 each which is a bargain - you'll pay that much for a B44 front shock tower. That translates to a UK price of about a tenner from Stella, compared to a UK price of £13 for a B44 shock tower.

I agree that it is unlikely the shock will go through the A2 part. Its far more likely that the arm will split which may bend the hinge pin, or the hub will let go. Either way we are now on a level playing field and are no worse off than the rest of the racing fraternity with "proper" (their words) cars.

Toonz 10-03-2008 02:15 PM

just had my TAC round 1 last weekend racing my durga and i only manage to race 3 rounds instead of all 6 rounds simply because of the weak suspension mounts!

came out twice at the rear and once in front and that caused me to step out of the track 3 times! i must say that this is really really frustrating!

i hope that tamiya will make alu version to replace the plastic ones as we must use all tamiya parts in the TAC.:mad:

DCM 10-03-2008 02:32 PM

Tamiya will do one, eventually, just wish they would pick up the pace!

Spoolio 11-03-2008 07:39 AM

Have got some Hop-Up dampers on the way from Champ so I'll soon see if they are any good - I'm not holding my breath by the way but they've got to be better than the kit ones surely.

biggusditchus 11-03-2008 11:19 AM

I am picking up some Ansmann dampers tonight for £7.99 a pair, come in a couple of different lengths.. cant be any worse than the cva's on Durga (CVA's on any other Tamiya feel fine, whats with the Durga ones?)

jimmy 11-03-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoolio (Post 102834)
Have got some Hop-Up dampers on the way from Champ so I'll soon see if they are any good - I'm not holding my breath by the way but they've got to be better than the kit ones surely.


Are you talking about the 501X dampers they just released for the Durga? If so why are you unsure about their performance? They're the best you can possibly get.

The kit dampers have crap pistons - and with such a good handling chassis it's bound to show up the weak shocks. I found the gorgeous DF03 alloy shocks to be no better than these plastic shocks purely because of the poor pistons included with them. I since changed the shafts and pistons to 501X items and they perform well now.

DCM 11-03-2008 01:33 PM

I think it all depends one whether they come with the 501X pistons or if they come with the pistons from the DF03 hopup shocks Jim.

jimmy 11-03-2008 01:53 PM

that would of course be lunacy! :lol: I've been told they are pure 501X shocks so I assume they're ace.

Northy 11-03-2008 02:07 PM

But would be better with white o-rings :thumbsup:

G

DCM 11-03-2008 02:28 PM

if they are 501X shocks and pistons, with Nortech o-rings, they will indeed be sweeter than honey!!

jimmy 11-03-2008 02:31 PM

I wasn't sure about the whities when I was installing them, and putting the shaft thru (lol) for the first time there was very little resistance - I thought they were so smooth that oil would be leaking like a crazy mamma.
but no!
I did all 12 of my 501X shocks (12, yep) with the whities, and they're ace :) complete bargain as well

DCM 11-03-2008 02:38 PM

oooh, do I get a bonus for plugging Nortech roflol

Chris Ward 11-03-2008 02:54 PM

Well my TRF 'Aeration' shocks turned up from the land of the Rising sun yesterday and they look good. Instructions that came with them seem to be the same as the ones in the TRF501X manual, but as I don't have a TRF I can't be 100% on them being the same components. I'll try to take some pics and put them up tonight, won't be putting them together until the weekend though as i'm still waiting for more parts. They do have some snazzy looking gold shock shafts though!

Chris

FYI - My shocks came with 'red' springs and soft oil, and the instructions do state these can be used on the DT02 aswell, so I'm guessing the kit suggested settings might be a bit of middle ground so they work on all the different chassis.

jimmy 11-03-2008 02:57 PM

The red springs are the soft ones, the 501X comes with yellow 'medium' springs. Even the blue 'hard' springs aren't that hard, I think AE blue fronts are a little harder. The reds will be a bit soft I think over here. I normally use ae silver on the rear and blue on the front

Vin 11-03-2008 03:52 PM

According to TamiyaUSA the buggy damper set features titanium-coated piston rods, these aren't on the stock TRF501X are they?

jimmy 11-03-2008 03:55 PM

no, the worlds edition car they are though.


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