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Welshy40 14-11-2011 10:19 AM

I didnt like the equaliser shocks, prefer the trx1 shocks better . Stil good find.

isobarik 14-11-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 581667)
Nice!!!. Only one issue I see and thats the belt tensioner. Hold the car in the air and hit full throttle and see how the belt moves without the belt tensioner attached, then you will see why I opt for the tension above. Other than that its looking great and I know you will show how good the car is on dirt.

I like the metal motor plate. Very nice.:thumbsup:

Doesnt the car moves faster with all the wheels on the ground ??? :thumbsup:

Should atleast improve the lap times :D

mvh Isobarik

oosh123 15-11-2011 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 581728)
Doesnt the car moves faster with all the wheels on the ground ??? :thumbsup:

Should atleast improve the lap times :D

mvh Isobarik

OMG!!! The buggy DOES move faster when all 4 wheels are on the ground!

Thanks for your advice Iso!!! :D

moth898 15-11-2011 05:01 AM

Iso, I tried the shell it fits....never got the blue stuff:cry:

lllyf 15-11-2011 05:59 AM

I have found a carbon fiber chassis of lazer zxr, like custom made over 15 years, and no battery slots,seen fits lipo?I have no idea about this,will take picture soon

Welshy40 15-11-2011 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 581728)
Doesnt the car moves faster with all the wheels on the ground ??? :thumbsup:

Should atleast improve the lap times :D

mvh Isobarik

Stop making me laugh :thumbsup:

isobarik 15-11-2011 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oosh123 (Post 582077)
OMG!!! The buggy DOES move faster when all 4 wheels are on the ground!

Thanks for your advice Iso!!! :D


Oosh Now you know what went wrong all those years when you didnt TQéd :woot:

Moth thats because there is no blue in youre flag its white and red ...:D

have faith my friend ....

Illyf keep them pics comming....

mvh isobarik

oosh123 15-11-2011 03:39 PM

Anyone ever notice that the kyosho nitro spider's sp belt's specification is RPD and not HTD?

Both car/buggy have the same differentials.

I might have to re-quote everything about the kevlar corded polyurethane belts for the lazer.


I will post some pictures for all to see later.

oosh123 15-11-2011 04:44 PM

This is the industries' specification for metric timing belts.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...sh123/Spec.jpg

Notice the shape of the belts. And this is the SP belt from the nitro Spider touring car.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000334.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000337.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000338.jpg

There are many forums that said the belts are HTD spec. But as I have noticed in the sp belt, the teeth are not rounded and there are no groove in the middle of the teeth. Therefore, I conclude that the SP belts are actually RPD Spec.

Furthermore, the tough racing belts are STD specs, hence the S3M letters on their belts. Their belts seem soft for a high torque application and the thickness is around 2.0mm and not 2.2mm as in the industries' STD spec. Thus, Welshy, this might be the reason why your rear belt shredded in a 5 minute race.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000339.jpg

I am trying to get a quote for these belts from another supplier. Hopefully, their MOQ (minimum order quantity) is lower then the previous ones.

Welshy40 15-11-2011 05:19 PM

I know someone posted it somewhere but can i find it no. The blue covered bearings are what im after. Any ideas?

oosh123 15-11-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 582346)
I know someone posted it somewhere but can i find it no. The blue covered bearings are what im after. Any ideas?

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...eenShot022.jpg

Are these the ones you are looking for??

Search for blue rubber seal bearings in ebay

rondoolaa 15-11-2011 08:14 PM

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cant wait till i've got the red bits all on the same car :drool:

Welshy40 15-11-2011 08:32 PM

Very red and metal. Looks interesting.:thumbsup:

Gutted, someone beat me to the belt tensioner design, never mind.

Welshy40 15-11-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oosh123 (Post 582363)
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...eenShot022.jpg

Are these the ones you are looking for??

Search for blue rubber seal bearings in ebay

Just bought the set for the ZXS, after all the bearings are identical in size for that car. My cars getting bluer every day and Rondoolaa's is getting redder as well.

Only a few more items to make it a blue work of art, and they are in progress.

Set up is coming along nicely, as i've sorted the front the rear end has been stiffened with associated silver springs and hope to test this in two weeks time.

The ZX-S on the other hand is now dialed for astro and cant wait to get it out to give it a good thrashing. On carpet its about one second a lap off the pace of the Ttech predator in the hands of a team driver but then again he was using the correct schumacher yellow mini pins but I had to settle for mini spikes due to over grip with the pins so maybe on the same pace outside. Im now happy with this car, taken me two years to redesign and get it right. :thumbsup:

Welshy40 15-11-2011 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oosh123 (Post 582336)
This is the industries' specification for metric timing belts.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...sh123/Spec.jpg

Notice the shape of the belts. And this is the SP belt from the nitro Spider touring car.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000334.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000337.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000338.jpg

There are many forums that said the belts are HTD spec. But as I have noticed in the sp belt, the teeth are not rounded and there are no groove in the middle of the teeth. Therefore, I conclude that the SP belts are actually RPD Spec.

Furthermore, the tough racing belts are STD specs, hence the S3M letters on their belts. Their belts seem soft for a high torque application and the thickness is around 2.0mm and not 2.2mm as in the industries' STD spec. Thus, Welshy, this might be the reason why your rear belt shredded in a 5 minute race.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000339.jpg

I am trying to get a quote for these belts from another supplier. Hopefully, their MOQ (minimum order quantity) is lower then the previous ones.

You might have hit this on the head, maybe thats exactly why I am getting through the belts rapidly. Lets hope this is what is needed, nicely done. :lol:

oosh123 15-11-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 582434)
Very red and metal. Looks interesting.:thumbsup:

Gutted, someone beat me to the belt tensioner design, never mind.

Who beaten you and where is it on sale?

oosh123 15-11-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oosh123 (Post 582336)
This is the industries' specification for metric timing belts.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/...sh123/Spec.jpg

Notice the shape of the belts. And this is the SP belt from the nitro Spider touring car.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000334.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000337.jpg

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000338.jpg

There are many forums that said the belts are HTD spec. But as I have noticed in the sp belt, the teeth are not rounded and there are no groove in the middle of the teeth. Therefore, I conclude that the SP belts are actually RPD Spec.

Furthermore, the tough racing belts are STD specs, hence the S3M letters on their belts. Their belts seem soft for a high torque application and the thickness is around 2.0mm and not 2.2mm as in the industries' STD spec. Thus, Welshy, this might be the reason why your rear belt shredded in a 5 minute race.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000339.jpg

I am trying to get a quote for these belts from another supplier. Hopefully, their MOQ (minimum order quantity) is lower then the previous ones.

Uh-oh, I think I have made a mistake. Looks like the belt standard I posted have been tempered by other people. The STD belt picture is supposed to be RRP and vice versa.

Therefore, I was wrong and tough racing was right. The belts are supposed to be STD 3M, aka S3M. Sorry tough racing, but your belts are still wimpy.

I will quote for S3M belts.

Welshy40 15-11-2011 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oosh123 (Post 582489)
Who beaten you and where is it on sale?

Rons red car has a red alloy l brace just like my design, well almost.

isobarik 15-11-2011 10:43 PM

Yeah rons car look nice in red and what was it was somone here owing me money :thumbsup:.......... mohaaa...... why cant jimmy put up an evil grin smiley ..... i know i will use it....


Ron you got to make some carbon lipo trays damn that will be sexy .:drool:...

Btw i got some wasp belt the orange ones the header says pink but they where very orange ones i have the motor plate/rear upperdeck mount from mms and shall i open them.......

mvh Isobarik

oosh123 15-11-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 582543)
Rons red car has a red alloy l brace just like my design, well almost.

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000340.jpg

You meant the slot in the middle??

Don't worry welshy, That's not for a belt tensioner mount. It's only to reduce the weight of this brace. Trust me I bought this part NIB.

BTW, ron, this brace is for sale if you want a better looking one.

moth898 16-11-2011 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 582565)
Yeah rons car look nice in red and what was it was somone here owing me money :thumbsup:.......... mohaaa...... why cant jimmy put up an evil grin smiley ..... i know i will use it....


Ron you got to make some carbon lipo trays damn that will be sexy .:drool:...

Btw i got some wasp belt the orange ones the header says pink but they where very orange ones i have the motor plate/rear upperdeck mount from mms and shall i open them.......

mvh Isobarik

Schumacher makes a nice lipo tray for saddles that can be split.

lllyf 16-11-2011 03:43 AM

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Really want to know who made these ever?

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Welshy40 16-11-2011 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 582565)
Yeah rons car look nice in red and what was it was somone here owing me money :thumbsup:.......... mohaaa...... why cant jimmy put up an evil grin smiley ..... i know i will use it....


Ron you got to make some carbon lipo trays damn that will be sexy .:drool:...

Btw i got some wasp belt the orange ones the header says pink but they where very orange ones i have the motor plate/rear upperdeck mount from mms and shall i open them.......

mvh Isobarik

Mate id like to see the rear mms mount.

Welshy40 16-11-2011 06:36 AM

I dont know who but do know why. I think this is for the alpha or the cheapo zxr sport where the car was designed around a stick pack so explains why no cell holes. The chasdis does seem based around a stick pack and looks good. Nice find, now youll need a lipo tray.

isobarik 16-11-2011 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 582644)
I dont know who but do know why. I think this is for the alpha or the cheapo zxr sport where the car was designed around a stick pack so explains why no cell holes. The chasdis does seem based around a stick pack and looks good. Nice find, now youll need a lipo tray.

I was thinking the same .....

mvh isobarik

isobarik 16-11-2011 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 582642)
Mate id like to see the rear mms mount.


Welsh
well you have sen that mount and you have had them in youre hands and you have sended them to me since they where mine:woot: remember ???

Illyf
thats just sexy looking good

mvh Isobarik

Welshy40 16-11-2011 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 582647)
Welsh
well you have sen that mount and you have had them in youre hands and you have sended them to me since they where mine:woot: remember ???

Illyf
thats just sexy looking good

mvh Isobarik

Iso,

Yup I remember. Dozy me :p

Welshy40 16-11-2011 11:51 AM

Anyone seen that Traxxas TRX3 on ebay for the last couple of months. Over priced big time. I reckon he would get £80 for it not £180.

oosh123 16-11-2011 03:51 PM

Anyone know what's the specification for the internal gear or spline that the small pulley have (The ones inside the rear gear box).

I am having trouble finding what the spec is.

rondoolaa 16-11-2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 582565)
Yeah rons car look nice in red and what was it was somone here owing me money :thumbsup:.......... mohaaa...... why cant jimmy put up an evil grin smiley ..... i know i will use it....


Ron you got to make some carbon lipo trays damn that will be sexy .:drool:...

Btw i got some wasp belt the orange ones the header says pink but they where very orange ones i have the motor plate/rear upperdeck mount from mms and shall i open them.......

mvh Isobarik

please dont ask me to get rid of my lazer stuff, its took ages to get this red stuff together,


i can give you the cash via paypal instantly if you want, :blush:

rondoolaa 16-11-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oosh123 (Post 582605)
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/.../WP_000340.jpg

You meant the slot in the middle??

Don't worry welshy, That's not for a belt tensioner mount. It's only to reduce the weight of this brace. Trust me I bought this part NIB.

BTW, ron, this brace is for sale if you want a better looking one.


Thankyou for the offer, i'll see what the other one looks like first when everything red is on there,

oosh123 16-11-2011 05:42 PM

Welshy,

What's your opinion if I were to modify the lazer into something like the kyosho KX-one? Incorporating the front gear box, upper deck, and the rear gear box together. What down fall do you see? I will design it so that it will fit your Team Orion 5000mAh 90C.

http://www.rc-car-magazin.de/rcr_fotos/401_ky_kxone.jpg

Welshy40 16-11-2011 08:40 PM

Its been done by a friendly chappie in Japan, however he did use the TC with one belt so your idea may be what is needed. You will still need a mass of alloy to keep the motor cool but will stop flex with the CF on both sides and would be almost indestructible.

But then again why not do both designs, the front gear box you have designed would look stunning, along with the finned motor plate and as your working on now the top deck mount with fan for the original look and this:woot:.

Welshy40 16-11-2011 08:49 PM

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Alan,

Here is a picture I was on about, unfortunately I am awaiting my other emails to arrive but you can see the front 3mm spacing, also the centre poles have a 3mm spacer at the bottom and ive done the same on the rear mount and this makes the esc look small due to the height of the top deck plus also means no fan breackage as well as my 5500 90C orions fit like a dream ontop of my brass zeppin cell hole items and Rude Tony brass plate ontop of that. I hope this now makes sense.

oosh123 16-11-2011 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 582955)
Its been done by a friendly chappie in Japan, however he did use the TC with one belt so your idea may be what is needed. You will still need a mass of alloy to keep the motor cool but will stop flex with the CF on both sides and would be almost indestructible.

But then again why not do both designs, the front gear box you have designed would look stunning, along with the finned motor plate and as your working on now the top deck mount with fan for the original look and this:woot:.

For the front gear box, I am having trouble trying to find an affordable way to mount the lexan cover. Groove in the CF makes things too expensive.

Welshy40 16-11-2011 10:09 PM

Do the rear gearbox zxs option and use two screws on the side and two where the pivot wishbone block is.

oosh123 16-11-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 583004)
Do the rear gearbox zxs option and use two screws on the side and two where the pivot wishbone block is.

There are too little room inside. It will have interference with the diff.

But just as I were driving back home from work, I thought of a very clever way to mount a thin sheet of aluminum on the gear box! muhahah! I am going to draft it up tomorrow. I will also anodize the thin sheet of aluminum blue as well. The more blue, the merrier.

isobarik 17-11-2011 12:01 AM

Then just put an piece of tape...


mvh isobarik

oosh123 17-11-2011 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 583058)
Then just put an piece of tape...


mvh isobarik

Blue tape! It will be lighter, thus goes faster! Yeah! Another option to improve lap time.

isobarik 17-11-2011 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondoolaa (Post 582843)
please dont ask me to get rid of my lazer stuff, its took ages to get this red stuff together,


i can give you the cash via paypal instantly if you want, :blush:

mohaaaa.mohaaaa.....

mvh Isobarik


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