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NewKid 21-03-2007 05:45 AM

i just got a kit and was wondering would this conversion work with lipo saddle packs? or normal lipo's lol? why cause i am running a mamba max 7700 kv setup on 2s lipo

KennyeeChan 21-03-2007 11:39 AM

it cannot be used with lipo pack.............
But already been wonderful performance.
I run the time 3 sec. faster with this kit!:cool:

kamoeba_c 21-03-2007 12:08 PM

is it really so good?
let me buy it during this promotion!
but any methods to make it run with lipo pack.........:confused: :mad:

DCM 21-03-2007 12:49 PM

you cna buy my 3Racing converted DF03... Lipo will go in with a little 'altering'

kamoeba_c 22-03-2007 10:51 AM

any reasons why you are so willing to sell it?
I saw your post before about the selling

DCM 22-03-2007 11:11 AM

because it won't fit in with me cells that I have, I don't realy want to have specific packs of batteries to only use with the car, I have buggies and a saloon that all share the same cell layout, so of it goes, unfortunately. Plus I just don't have the time to make the chassis fit the cells either :-(

Elliott Hopkins 22-03-2007 12:23 PM

It's a shame, I've enjoyed our discussions on the Dark Impact.

:)

Elliott.

DCM 22-03-2007 01:08 PM

I would love to keep it, but I got to look realisticaly, how much room I got.

NewKid 23-03-2007 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyeeChan (Post 29915)
it cannot be used with lipo pack.............
But already been wonderful performance.
I run the time 3 sec. faster with this kit!:cool:

well i bought the saddle pack in 5500 mah so we'll have to see if i can shoehorn her in...without taking away from the chassis....I already got a couple of parts but still waiting on the buggy, chassis,lipo, etc to come in...i really can't wait:rolleyes:

KennyeeChan 24-03-2007 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewKid (Post 30189)
well i bought the saddle pack in 5500 mah so we'll have to see if i can shoehorn her in...without taking away from the chassis....I already got a couple of parts but still waiting on the buggy, chassis,lipo, etc to come in...i really can't wait:rolleyes:


Then what car you had before?
or you are intent to buy those parts?

omen1975 24-03-2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamoeba_c (Post 29918)
is it really so good?
let me buy it during this promotion!
but any methods to make it run with lipo pack.........:confused: :mad:

Hey Guys,

No reason why this saddle pack 4400mah lipo wont fit, you will need to make the loop wire slightly longer and even the out the top option you can choose may be better, you may also need a 2mm spacer under your battery posts. Maybe ask if they can make the loop wire couple inches longer before they send you one.

I have been thinking of purchasing one myself for my KMRC ZX-5 and KMRC Keen Hawk but dont have the spare funds at this stage so it will have to wait. :(

Anyway here is the link,

http://www.maxamps.com/products.php?cat=54

Hope this helps
omen1975

NewKid 25-03-2007 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyeeChan (Post 30221)
Then what car you had before?
or you are intent to buy those parts?

i've never had a df before but i bought one and also bought the hop up parts

so far I've bought!
km chassis
mamba max 7700 setup
2s maxamps 5500mah lipo
Tamiya Slipper Kit
3 racing:
1 x 3Racing Alu. Suspension Brace
1 x 3Racing Alu. Rear Gear Box Stiffener
1 x 3Racing SSG Graphite Rear Damper Tower
1 x 3Racing SSG Graphite Front Shock Tower
1 x 3Racing Titanium Turnbuckle Kit
1 x 3Racing Aluminum Servo Saver Kit
1 x 3Racing HD Diff Front Kit
1 x 3Racing HD Diff Rear Kit
1 x 3Racing Titanium Screw Set
1 x 3Racing Graphite Front Brace
1 x 3Racing Aluminum Propellor Shaft

basically all i need now are my truck tires and truck body...

RavenC 26-03-2007 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omen1975 (Post 30229)
Hey Guys,

No reason why this saddle pack 4400mah lipo wont fit, you will need to make the loop wire slightly longer and even the out the top option you can choose may be better, you may also need a 2mm spacer under your battery posts. Maybe ask if they can make the loop wire couple inches longer before they send you one.

I have been thinking of purchasing one myself for my KMRC ZX-5 and KMRC Keen Hawk but dont have the spare funds at this stage so it will have to wait. :(

Anyway here is the link,

http://www.maxamps.com/products.php?cat=54

Hope this helps
omen1975

Hey omen,
I have also got the KM chassis for my DF03, sounds interest to use the lipo pack:cool: But for my poor techique.I don't understand what I should do......:yawn: Can you show the steps of set-up when you got the lipo?:D

Hope not to waste your time....:)

KennyeeChan 27-03-2007 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewKid (Post 30276)
i've never had a df before but i bought one and also bought the hop up parts

so far I've bought!
km chassis
mamba max 7700 setup
2s maxamps 5500mah lipo
Tamiya Slipper Kit
3 racing:
1 x 3Racing Alu. Suspension Brace
1 x 3Racing Alu. Rear Gear Box Stiffener
1 x 3Racing SSG Graphite Rear Damper Tower
1 x 3Racing SSG Graphite Front Shock Tower
1 x 3Racing Titanium Turnbuckle Kit
1 x 3Racing Aluminum Servo Saver Kit
1 x 3Racing HD Diff Front Kit
1 x 3Racing HD Diff Rear Kit
1 x 3Racing Titanium Screw Set
1 x 3Racing Graphite Front Brace
1 x 3Racing Aluminum Propellor Shaft

basically all i need now are my truck tires and truck body...

Then finish it yet?
so many options you got!
I just run DF with the DIK.

kamoeba_c 28-03-2007 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavenC (Post 30391)
Hey omen,
I have also got the KM chassis for my DF03, sounds interest to use the lipo pack:cool: But for my poor techique.I don't understand what I should do......:yawn: Can you show the steps of set-up when you got the lipo?:D

Hope not to waste your time....:)

That's the question for me too!!

RavenC 30-03-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamoeba_c (Post 30631)
That's the question for me too!!

Have you order your DF03 conversion kit yet?:)
If not,
BE QUICK!!
Enjoy the Easter Promotion!:D
Show us some pic of your DF03 with conversion kit when you take it:D!
And last,
Welcome to the DIK-100 family:cool:!!
Cheer

van 31-03-2007 08:50 PM

km coversion
 
i wonder if anyone has tried to fit trf501 suspension arms onto the kit yet since it sounds like they would bolt up then you could use the white dish wheels:confused:

van 31-03-2007 08:57 PM

df-03 slipper
 
i almost forgot for those trying to get 48 pitch slippers to work with the dark impact kawada sells a direct conversion

RavenC 02-04-2007 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by van (Post 31240)
i wonder if anyone has tried to fit trf501 suspension arms onto the kit yet since it sounds like they would bolt up then you could use the white dish wheels:confused:

Have you bought the DF03 conversion kit from KM?
I am glad to know the answer if you got it:D
I mean to fit the TRF501 in DIK-100.

Cheer

Sero 04-04-2007 02:27 AM

Hey Raven,

Seems like you know a lot about the KM conversion kit.:D
Actually I want to take an order within this weekend.
Can you show me some photo of your DF-03?
And can you list out the adv. and disadv. of it by your OWN EXPERIENCE?:confused:
I don't think the advertisment is really 100% true...:(
Waiting for your opinion....:)

Sero

van 08-04-2007 08:30 AM

trf501x
 
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Attachment 753

Attachment 754

Attachment 755i will be making one from scratch soon because i need to finish off my ta05 kawada rc first but my frist df03 parts for now are the kawada spur conversion set and the kawada slipper gear cap but for the suspension arms they are almost the same size the only thing that would be a problem is spacing but thats where you shim it up but if you want to see my ta05 ill take pics of the for now its custom to the fullest that it can go and the chassis is custom milled by me . I dont like to buy full kits so i just buy the spares and upgrades that way it saves money .

RavenC 14-04-2007 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sero (Post 31766)
Hey Raven,

Seems like you know a lot about the KM conversion kit.:D
Actually I want to take an order within this weekend.
Can you show me some photo of your DF-03?
And can you list out the adv. and disadv. of it by your OWN EXPERIENCE?:confused:
I don't think the advertisment is really 100% true...:(
Waiting for your opinion....:)

Sero

In fact, I know nothing about KM conversion kit but DF-03.

For the advantage, I don't think it is really different from the advertisment, no need to worriy about this.

And about the disadvantage, just to pay attention will it be stock out soon.

Hope to help

Raven

NewKid 15-04-2007 02:00 AM

gonna build the di today...will be taking some pics of progress tonight!

jimmy 10-05-2007 01:29 AM

Took me long enough - but project 'ultimate Impact' is go! :D
I only just started but of course the main part of this car is the awesome KMRC conversion kit. Since i wanted to get the best of the car I also hunted out some choice hop-ups, concentrating on performance rather than looks.
At the moment other than the conversion there is:
  • Tamiya hopup shocks - I will change to 501X pistons and shafts though
  • Tamiya turnbuckles
  • Tamiya heatsinks (might ditch these)
  • Tamiya centre one way
  • Tamiya front one way
  • Square front and rear shock towers
  • Square rear diff
  • Kanzen ceramic diff balls
  • Square front cvd
  • Yeah Racing rear cvd
Powering this lot will be the 2007 Nosram Matrix brushless with 5.5 motor and Nosram team cells. Steering will come from the latest low profile KO servo.


http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/...teimpact01.jpg


I don't know a heck of a lot about Tamiya stuff and all the millions of cars they do - and what might fit this df03 buggy... but I am looking for a couple of things and hoped someone might be able to help.
I am looking for caster front hub carriers - the kit are ZERO degrees and it's simply not enough with the fairly shallow front kick up.
I have seen some Yeah Racing front TB05 hub carriers in 4degrees caster but not sure if these will fit?

I am not sure what rear toe-in is on the DF03 as standard (from the wishbones) but it looks about 4 degrees - so does anyone make toe-in rear hubs for this platform or that might fit? I want to reverse them for less toe-in.
:)

omen1975 10-05-2007 03:24 AM

I was suprised on how light my KMRC DF-03 is, I think this conversion will surely be a winner in Stock classes.

omen1975

Eotz 10-05-2007 07:23 AM

Wich is better?
 
Hello.

I'm racing with my DF-03, full of options but with the stock plastic chassis and the cars work really fine. My next step is going to be one of the carbon fiver conversion chassis. My first option is the 3Racing one becasue use the same layout than the stock chassis and in my opinion the weigth distribution is the best point of this car, but I wish to know your impressions about both chasis. Does anyone race with one of this chassis?. What do you think about the racing behavior of both chassis?.

Thanks. :)

jimmy 10-05-2007 09:06 AM

Hey there Eotz, What is your setup on the df03? I did get the car going fairly well but it could have been better - I think the shock towers would have been next to change to get better performance.
I was just frustrated by the lack of some adjustments (castor and antisquat for instance)

The layout on the KMRC conversion does place the weight closer together which in theory might enable the car to turn quicker - but we'll have to see since I've not raced it yet. The layout does make it easier for me to use my racing cells though.

Eotz 10-05-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 38480)
Hey there Eotz, What is your setup on the df03?

Hello Jimmy. :)

This is the full list of the Hop-Ups that I'm using:

From Tamiya:
- Sleeper.
- Center one-way.
- Heat sink bars.
- DF-02 universals (Front and rear)
- TRF hexagonal wheel adapters (4mm thickness).
- 18T to 29T 0.5 pinions.

From Five Stars:
- Front and rear Shock towers.

From Yeah Racing!
- Turnbuckle set.
- Aluminiun battery cover (Great cooling batteries).

From 3Racing:
- Aluminiun gear box plate.
- Aluminun racing steering (With bearings).
- Damper set.
- Front and rear Diff Shaft.
- Graphite Front Suspension Brace.
- Alum Rear Gear Box Stiffener .

From Losi:
- Shock coils.
- Ifmar Stud tyres.

From JConcepts:
- High down force 7" wing.

From Cyclone.
- Wheels.

Last race and next one (Nest sunday 13) I'm race with an LRP ICP V7.1 ESC and a Fusion Phase 4.1 12x2T because my Reedy neo 3 Stars Brushless motor died the first race in the 3th cualifying. My new Vector X11 6.5 will arrive next week.
I think this is all and I don't forgot nothing :eh?: . You can see 2 pictures of my car in this forum.

See you. :D

jimmy 10-05-2007 10:10 AM

The yeah racing battery cover is mad- but I think actually a really good idea - it should stiffen up the chassis a little and also put some weight low down.

I forgot to say I also use the tamiya slipper - but have put a B4 48dp spur gear on it so I could use my existing pinions.

I heard some good things about the 3racing shocks - I just wasn't overly impressed with the kit plastic or tamiya hopup shocks

Eotz 11-05-2007 10:08 AM

Hi Jimmy.

Yes, the 3Racong Shocks are really good, the came with really hard coils and oil that should be replaced. Ofcurse depending of the track and son on. I also made bigger the holes of the pistons. I'm using Losi coils with this shocks, in the front they fit perfect but the rear coils are a little bit shorter than 3Racing coils. This weekend I'll try Schumacher's CAT3000 coils. Those shocks works really soft and the complete set cost only cost 22$.

Bye. :)

sim 15-05-2007 03:40 AM

Losi springs work on 3-Racing shocks? I have both of these and never thought to try them out. Haha.

gordy 20-05-2007 11:31 AM

Hi Guys
 
New to this forum, although I've been looking round for quite some time. I'm also building a DI for club racing. I've ordered a KM chassis kit, does it concern anyone else, how little meat there is at the back of the chassis - where the motor cut out is?
Jimmy, I've got a KM catalogue here, that says they do C hubs in zero degrees, 4 degrees, 7 degrees and 10 degrees and rear hubs in 0,1 and 1.5 degrees. Although I haven't seen it on their site - it might be worth enquiring about.

jimmy 20-05-2007 12:35 PM

It's thin back there but the carbon feels to be quality stuff so I'd not worry too much to be honest. The top deck / gearbox mounting should stop it flexing back there.

Thanks for the tip about the parts, I've not heard about them but I'll look into it!

jimmy 20-05-2007 05:26 PM

Found the catalog - I'll get some bits on order I think once I've figured out the new KMRC website. They have sadly taken some cues from the 'how not to design a website' handbook. Now please excuse me whilst I close their site tab so I don't have to listen to that music or car engine any longer.:eh?:


oop, found the site and currently they only offer for sale the 0 degree stuff like you said - which is what everyone else sells also. I want some 1 degree hubs and 10degree caster c hubs

gordy 20-05-2007 06:19 PM

It might be worth sending them an email asking if they can do they in different degrees. I know what you mean about their website - it's like trying to find your way round Tesco's with the lights out!!!
At the club the other night I was looking at some Yokomo BD touring car C hubs and rear hubs, and although I haven't got any to try - they look damn close. I really want to make the DI perform well. Just hope it's not a total let down after all this effort.

mutie 24-07-2007 11:16 PM

Jimmy how's the DF-03 project car comming? it looked like it was shaping up well.

I have just ordered a keen hawk and a whole load of blue bits as well (getting a little out of hand actually! costing me an arm and a leg!)

Hairy Steve! Where are you! Come back to FORCC and we can have a DF-03 race! (even though it will only be the two of us unless i work on Gordon)

Has anybody tried the 501X shocks on the DF-03? i think the rears are similar but the front shock bodies seem a little longer.

I was thinking about a 3 racing chassis, has anybody tried to fit a GTB on it?

Cheers

Ollie

BelstenToo 05-08-2007 09:47 PM

Rather than resurect a really old DF03 thread I thought I'd add to this one.
I've just ordered an avante mk2 and keep eyeing up all of these options with much interest! Jimmy, have you had chance to build that 'ultimate' version yet?
I think I'd better run mine standard for a while, as it's been 11 years since I last raced! The df03 looked like a good car for me to get started again though.

DCM 05-08-2007 10:37 PM

Pete, pop to Cardiff, I have a full 'bells and whistles' DF03 sitting in the workroom, unemployed.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...cs/DF03-02.jpg

encore75 20-08-2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 38463)
Took me long enough - but project 'ultimate Impact' is go! :D
I only just started but of course the main part of this car is the awesome KMRC conversion kit. Since i wanted to get the best of the car I also hunted out some choice hop-ups, concentrating on performance rather than looks.
At the moment other than the conversion there is:
  • Tamiya hopup shocks - I will change to 501X pistons and shafts though
  • Tamiya turnbuckles
  • Tamiya heatsinks (might ditch these)
  • Tamiya centre one way
  • Tamiya front one way
  • Square front and rear shock towers
  • Square rear diff
  • Kanzen ceramic diff balls
  • Square front cvd
  • Yeah Racing rear cvd

Jimmy,

I'm putting together my Keen Hawk, but would like to gather all the "essential" hop-ups first so that they can all go in during the initial build. Like you, I'm looking mainly for performance and durability, as Tamiya parts are harder to come by here in the U.S. I've got a few questions for you (and to anyone else who might know the answers)...

What's your impression of the Tamiya turnbuckles? Also, have you any idea as to what material they're made out of (steel, titanium, aluminum, etc.)? They do look pretty beefy, though.

What size are the diff balls and diff rings in the DF-03 diffs?

I was also thinking alloy hubs might be a good idea, as I see the hinge pin set screws not holding in the plastic hubs all that well over time...I figure with the alloy ones, at least I could use some Loctite. Have you any experience with the various 3rd party ones out there (Yeah racing, GPM, 3Racing, etc.)?

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to your completed review of "Project Ultimate Impact!"
:cool:

DCM 20-08-2007 07:20 PM

If you want an easy option for turnbuckles, look no further than the Associated B4, they fit a good un.

As for alloy suspension parts, the chances are you will break something bigger than say a hub.

As for hop up, RW Racing will sell a layshaft which will take a B4 slipper unit directly, or you can buy the Tamiya one and then ream out B4 spur gears to go on.

Tamiya Centre one-way will help things, 3 Racing motor plate to help cool things and maybe a 3Racing steering set.

Big one though, and don't go for the cheaper 3Racing/Square/GPM option, go for a set of Tamiya DF02 Swing Shafts (CVD's), they are a direct fir and far easier to rebuild.


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