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Smartalec 30-11-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simoncrabb (Post 437617)
Come on Springer, remember we're not all top drivers, we don't qualify low down cos we've had a bad day, we qualify low down cos we're not as talented!

Us lot in the lower finals love the opportunity to improve, and enjoy some racing, not just watch the A finalists get more racing in the day, just cos they're quicker.

You're missing the point Mr C, it won't benefit the lower placed drivers at all, at best they'll improve one final above their normal sort of placings but why should one of the top drivers qualify really low down then get yet another set of chances to get up the list, that's not fair surely? If you think by having bump ups the average driver will get more run time you're most certainly wrong i'm afraid :)

c0sie 30-11-2010 04:28 PM

Sod bump ups, and sod watching the same ol' top 3 walk away with the big pots.

Long live the mid-pack racer :D lol

#powertothepeople!

mattybucks 30-11-2010 04:49 PM

I'm with the no bump ups.

Qualify and then race in the order you qualify. The people who are in constantly in the A are there for a reason.

Alec races most weekends and at least twice weekly, he's faster than me then and thats just the way it is. (I can always sabotage his car in the pits).

He you go Matt we'll bump you up a couple of finals so you can finish last, or run you final, win it and get a trophy :thumbsup:

jondell 30-11-2010 07:03 PM

Cris - bump up final finals for 1/10th off road at major competitions was the normal format way back in the early 80's... so no, its not a nitro thing.

Lipos these days give the opportunity to open door to new experiences, why not embrace them you might like it.

Alex - in the nicest possible way, your being ever so short sighted. Any A final at any RC event should and generally is exciting. However the other finals in the electric classes, really dont come close in terms of a spectacle to that said A final. Ok, so you have had a go and you dont like it, thats your opinion. My opinion is, your wrong :)

You see that making the A final is your days target.. not winning the event. With no one directly into an A final, the best qualifying goal would be to make the semi final, which in a 2 sided bump format would be 16 racers (8 in each semi)... so the chances of making the maximum qualifying position is increased. Yes, i agree that if you break in the semi, you dont make the ultimate goal of being in the main, but equally, break in the main and you wont win either. Racing should be racing and getting it over the line in one bit is part of racing.

Its a different format that would be fun and during the finals, would create an interest in every single final for all attendees (well maybe not my misses).

As for charging, 2 packs of lipos would cover it no problem. You race and then bump, you put that pack on charge and put in another pack, while the other side of the format runs. You then race and bump again. At this point you swap batteries again. The first pack would have been on charge for around 15 minutes minimum, which would have pumped in 1000mah at least. I would think you could do 4-5 finals like that before a pack would run flat.

David Church 30-11-2010 07:15 PM

I do like the idea that I will be able to race in the final I qualified for.
So I don't think the idea of bump up is a good idea, my personal opinion. Perhaps I would feel different if I had the opportunity to race that format.
I do also think that the way a person drives in a bump up system may be different to qualifying and finals. It may promote a bonsai, win it or bin it type of driving.
I think the best format is 2 rounds of practise, 4 qual, and 3 finals for all.

showtime 30-11-2010 07:25 PM

bump up finals are awesome :thumbsup:
it gives you a chance to finish way higher up than you qualified if you can keep it together & finish high enough in your final/s
you get to race against faster drivers everytime you bump & often the tussle for the last bump up spot will have some spectacular battles :thumbsup:
often way more entertaining than just watching the leader cruise around once he's made a gap.

yeah i guess if it was 3 finals for all then you may get more track time but if you bump up twice you equal that :)

it certainly works in Nitro & like Jon says it shouldn't be a problem with todays cells & chargers.

its a big meeting. double sided bump up finals are all about the big meetings :thumbsup:

Smartalec 01-12-2010 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jondell (Post 437781)
Alex - in the nicest possible way, your being ever so short sighted. Any A final at any RC event should and generally is exciting. However the other finals in the electric classes, really dont come close in terms of a spectacle to that said A final. Ok, so you have had a go and you dont like it, thats your opinion. My opinion is, your wrong :)

John - you're right, I had a go at the two electric meetings that ran this format as a trial, and you're also right, I didn't like it. Both meetings ran well and i'm sure some people enjoyed it BUT both clubs never ran the format again so it certainly wasn't just me who had a go and didn't like it :)
All the races at any meeting are just as important to the people that are in them, you set your own goals and of course whatever final i'm in i'd want to try for the win but even at your nitro meetings I doubt whether the first few finals get the same interest as the semi's or the main unless one of the "names" has had a bad day and not qualified very well. ;)

Stu 19-12-2010 11:29 AM

July 29th to 31st.

Venue & marquee booked now so if it's not right this time I may actually get banned.

David Church 19-12-2010 12:01 PM

Stu needs a ban for mentioning the word ban!!! I don't need a ban as I was only saying the word ban because of Stu who needs a ban!!!
So Jimmy can you please ban Stu for 14.3 hours??? That will show him.

ashleyb4 19-12-2010 12:11 PM

AAAAAAAACCCCCCCCEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mark christopher 19-12-2010 01:02 PM

nice one im free and would love to come play with DC :wub

dpackster1980 19-12-2010 01:09 PM

I want to be in this one, applied for the last one but no one bothered their arse to email people saying they didn't get in!
:yawn:

Put me down for it but just out of politeness and common courtesy send either a pm or email to the people refused. :thumbsup:

I know if you're not part of the "click" you don't get in so I know I won't be in this one. I don't believe in arse kissing. :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumb down:

Stu 19-12-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Church (Post 443596)
So Jimmy can you please ban Stu for 14.3 hours??? That will show him.

Dave, I've given you an infraction for no good reason, if Jimmy finds out I'm doing that again it may help you.

Rich D 19-12-2010 02:17 PM

I`d also like to put my name down for this if there are spaces available please. 2 and 4WD if at all possible but one class if it lets more people race. I dont mind which !

Thanks

Col 19-12-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 443614)
I want to be in this one, applied for the last one but no one bothered their arse to email people saying they didn't get in!
:yawn:

Put me down for it but just out of politeness and common courtesy send either a pm or email to the people refused. :thumbsup:

I know if you're not part of the "click" you don't get in so I know I won't be in this one. I don't believe in arse kissing. :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumb down:

That's a sure way to help your entry...

Let's all just wait for the entry form to come out and take the invites from there (the key work is invite in this sentence) before this thread fills up with people asking to race.

dpackster1980 19-12-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 443633)
That's a sure way to help your entry...

Let's all just wait for the entry form to come out and take the invites from there (the key work is invite in this sentence) before this thread fills up with people asking to race.

I did fill in the form last year and no one emailed me back. I had to find out second hand from other people which from my point of view is disgusting.

I'm not popular with certain people who have an influence on what goes on. Like I said I refuse to kiss people's arses!

In my point of view the people that applied last year and didn't get in should get preference this year over the people that did. :thumbsup:

Chrislong 19-12-2010 02:33 PM

Im suprised these invites don't get sent out as proper invitation cards... that'd be ace.

dpacker, pack-it-in. There's no clique, but by being negative your just poking the hornets nest.

David Church 19-12-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 443626)
Dave, I've given you an infraction for no good reason, if Jimmy finds out I'm doing that again it may help you.


Banned Stu has banned me 2 times today, don't he know who I am???
I am sure he will be better at the invatations next year and I am sure I will be banned for saying this!!!!
BAN ME AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Luv you Stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!

c0sie 19-12-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 443636)
I did fill in the form last year and no one emailed me back. I had to find out second hand from other people which from my point of view is disgusting.

I'm not popular with certain people who have an influence on what goes on. Like I said I refuse to kiss people's arses!

In my point of view the people that applied last year and didn't get in should get preference this year over the people that did. :thumbsup:

Self pity much? Jeez.
---

I shall be booking a Travelodge soon for this, starting to prey to the gods that I do get an entry again this year, and if not ill just sell me hotel rooms to someone else :)

'Provisionally' cannot wait :)

Oscar 19-12-2010 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 443724)

I shall be booking a Travelodge soon for this,

Posh bugger :p

You never tried "Camping it" ?, it suits some people..... :lol:


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