Well as far as I was aware hobbyking haven't submitted? Or have they?

If this would be the case and everyone would go for the cheap option, why isn't everyone buying Gens Ace cells? They are the same price as Hobbykings cells and a few of them are already on the EB list.

Here's a good example.
In 2007 the bike section didn't use the lists, and their rules specified that the electric bike stock class was restricted to a 27T stock motor. At the worlds the winner was way ahead of everyone else due to a one off special hand wound and balanced motor that was built by Corally to fit the motor specs.

The equivalent today is that if you don't use homologation lists then Novak will happily sell you one of their Vulcan Outlaw motors. They are special motors with hand wound stators with special low resistance wire and would cost around £30 more than a normal motor. Or you could also use the Corally Pro Red range that is specifically banned even by clubs being more open about the motor rules

Many? Most? Semantics, I make it 4 who don't which I chose to call many. Hardly getting my facts wrong.

Gee thanks for the constructive criticism. I disagree with you as well. We are all learning from this, from Jim, Tom and possibly even you. Hardly helpful to say shut up and read the manual is it?

Its one of the ways we learn by discussion and debate. As it happens the points made mostly by Tom make a lot of sense and put the current situation in perspective and how we arrived here. I can also appreciate the potential for it to get out of hand again in the future and see the list has value.

That was my point, I did not see the value before, now I do. Not from reading a set of rules but by the interchange of views and opinions on this fine forum.

Fookin ell, this debate still going? That's well over a week now. Laws of the land are sometimes decided quicker than this.

You do all realise that you're all using up space in your real life to get het up about battery packs for model cars.

Correct they have not submitted them, so when you say if they were allowed? If they submitted them they would be........they have not, their problem, not the brca.

Oh okay I thought you knew why they hadnt submitted or weren't allowed on the list.
Have a fun weekend racing :)

As a newbie to the hobby i have found that the BRCA lists have been a great help in choosing what equipment to buy which is safe, but also commonly used. Without them as guidance i would of needed to ask a lot more questions, but i wouldn't also feel as confident with the electrics as i do now.

Excellent reason for having the lists, enough said:thumbsup:

Homologation is for fair competition - it doesn't affect off road, so it shouldn't be used. The last time this thread cropped up some people went MENTAL, particularly at me, because they CAN'T READ the words "OFF ROAD" :)
It isn't for safety. :yawn:
A BRCA 'recommended reading' (suggested motor/batteries) list would be more worthy than a list of people who paid to be on it to sell more stuff. :bored:

This post needs a 'like' button :thumbsup:

The safety aspect is tenuous at best, ANY lipo can cause a fire, it's the nature of the beast.
I have only ever had one battery go bad on me and that was on the approved list

Agreed

As has been said before, the list doesn't ensure the battery is safe, just that there is a paperwork trail back if there is a fault......

Ground hog day anyone?

I think it is more like 'Life, Die, Repeat'!

Damn good film! Reckon they had lipos in their exosuits?

If they were, they weren't on eh EB list.... but it was a one-off event and not sanctioned :thumbsup:

It was 1 up man ship that made me give up racing 20 years ago for the fact that a paper boys salary wouldn't cut it, not blowing myself up but at 10 years old was regularly on the podium up to winning An A final at 16, but sadly My cells just wouldn't manage a 5 minute heat on a 14x2 in 4wd so that was that, anyway a mate got me back into it and I praise the work of the BRCA, and wish everyone could just focus this on helping people into racing rather than deterring just to promote some slightly cheaper lipo's

well said! :thumbsup: