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wayneski 18-01-2008 11:48 PM

Cheers, will have a look in the morning. Having trouble seeing 1 or everything a the mo. Not that I have drunk too much or anything!

Good luck at the weekend, have got got any other hop ups fitted?

werner1619 18-01-2008 11:55 PM

No sweat :)

jimmy 18-01-2008 11:55 PM

Just those three things. I have a screw kit but have been too lazy to fit it :)


Speaking of screw kits - Tonys Screws have kindly offered to donate their new durga kit for the winner of the Durga in the oople competition! So you don't have to mess about with the phillips screws :)
I'm really happy about that as it will make the build a lot more pleasent and having used Tonys screws in the past there's no nicer build than using those.

Tony will have the screw kit available online shortly (I'll post when they're available) and there will be a little discount for oople forum members too :) we love Tony.

wayneski 18-01-2008 11:56 PM

look forward to hearing how it goes

Metla 19-01-2008 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 85486)
Why do you think an 'indoor track' or 'grass' doesn't test a car to it's limits? :confused:

G

Grab yourself a motocross bike, Ride around an MX track for an hour at race speed.

Then do the same in a warehouse.

Oh wait, you could go all day in a warehouse,.... and collapse from exhaustion within 15 minutes on an MX track.

At the end of the day, The conditions are harsher.

Now, Seeing as I had no idea people were so sensitive about not actually using their off-road buggies in an off-road enviorment, I'll add this little disclaimer, On the day, the most skilled driver with the best run will win no matter what the track surface, No slur was intended on anyones manhood, womenhood, or driving abilities.

werner1619 19-01-2008 07:06 AM

Melta,

Good for you, every one has their own opinion. Thats why I read forums, to see what other people think. Just keep cool when sticking to your point. Not pointing to you Malta, but everyone.

One day I felt quit negative and all that came trough on my posts. Lucky people noticed and I changed my aditude.

So how about that Durga DB01, I have entered the compition an d hope I win it....

DCM 19-01-2008 10:17 AM

Actualy the surface you race on determines the type of tyre you use mostly, and Tiverton was a level playing field as most if not all cars worked there within reason. When you start putting ruts, jumps and bumps in, that really tests things, whether it be on dirt, grass or astro.

The biggest difference in dirt and grass/astro is the grip level, on dirt, you are fighting to find grip, on high grip, it causes a whole different set of issue.

Toonz 19-01-2008 10:39 AM

can these yellow dish be use on the durga?

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3026

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3027

:rolleyes:

jimmy 19-01-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toonz (Post 85811)

yes! :)

jimmy 19-01-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metla (Post 85788)
Grab yourself a motocross bike, Ride around an MX track for an hour at race speed.

Then do the same in a warehouse.

Oh wait, you could go all day in a warehouse,.... and collapse from exhaustion within 15 minutes on an MX track.

At the end of the day, The conditions are harsher.

Now, Seeing as I had no idea people were so sensitive about not actually using their off-road buggies in an off-road enviorment, I'll add this little disclaimer, On the day, the most skilled driver with the best run will win no matter what the track surface, No slur was intended on anyones manhood, womenhood, or driving abilities.


I don't even know what you're talking about but I did notice you changed your argument from testing cars, to testing drivers. And in a way, yes you are correct. But since you now agree with me that it would be nice to have some dirt tracks over here with big well-sclupted jumps, I think we can be best buddies again.;)
I don't mind that you didn't like my review and thought it was flawed. But since you are saying things we agree upon - but STILL want to argue and pick fights then i think you need to go away and come back when you can talk reasonably and respectfully about things.

sparrow.2 19-01-2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metla http://www.oople.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Grab yourself a motocross bike, Ride around an MX track for an hour at race speed.

Then do the same in a warehouse.

Oh wait, you could go all day in a warehouse,.... and collapse from exhaustion within 15 minutes on an MX track.
I don't think he quite realizes what indoor tracks look like. I find carpet has way more grip and the edges of the track are usually harder too. Basically indoor is a hell of a lot harder on the car than dirt will ever be.

@ Metla: If you really want the warehouse approach, try comparing motocross and supercross... At least that would make some sense :D


Quote:

it would be nice to have some dirt tracks over here with big well-sclupted jumps
Suppose you always want what you don't have... I'd love to race on more grass or astroturf tracks in Germany :)

terry.sc 19-01-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metla (Post 85485)
The abilities of the chassis and box standard gear isn't exactly being pushed to its limits on an indoor track, Or on grass.

Here's some of Jimmys photos to show just what we run on, most of our tracks are multisurface.

Indoors - surface usually a mix of high grip carpet (which puts a lot of stress on the buggy) and very low grip wood or plastic
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/southportgp2008/
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/worksop251107/

Outdoors
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/oswes...7national/4wd/
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/stotf...ional2007/2wd/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metla (Post 85462)
aye?
Don't you guys have dirt tracks over there?

Why we don't have dirt tracks
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/kidde...007/kid130507/
We don't go home when it rains or we'd never race.

Spoolio 19-01-2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayneski (Post 85640)
I know I'm being lazy but what are the size of the balls? Want to get some kanzen ones to put in my oneway (and rear diff too I suppose).

Cheers

According to the manual they're 3mm. I've ordered some from Kanzen but they are taking forever to arrive, its been 11 days so far. Its a bit of a bugger that they come in packs of 10 'cos you end up with 6 spare. Have decided to build it with the kit bearings and change over when they wear out - hopefully the slipper will minimise the wear.

Metla 19-01-2008 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 85830)
I don't even know what you're talking about but I did notice you changed your argument from testing cars, to testing drivers.

I can see that , But no, I haven't changed my argument, It just went over yours and it seems everyone else's head. Using a person as an example was to demonstrate the extra stress applied when on a rough environment that changes with use, Your dead level static surfaces are sanitized in comparison. The harder the conditions, The harder every component must work (not tires as such, But the entire chassis and everything attached to it) The harder the components are working, The sooner their limits are reached, Hence my view that the shocks are worthless, and others saying they are fine.

Furthermore, I don't think your review was flawed at all, I think it reflects the conditions you tested it under, And that would be the case for every review done by any person on any gear.

Anyway, I"m finished with the subject.

PaulRotheram 19-01-2008 09:42 PM

Good, have a nice day :)

Carlos69 20-01-2008 02:06 AM

I got these from Precision RC....ceramic thrust bearings...pre assembled
http://www.precisionrc.com/nv/car/pr...oduct_id=53980
they also do a dozen 3mm ceramic ball sets....

General Accident 20-01-2008 06:46 PM

Hi, apologies if this has been touched on before but I am screwing my DB01 together now and wondered whether to stick with the kit spur or use an Associated 87t one I have in my spares box. I will be running with a 7.5T brushless motor.

wayneski 20-01-2008 07:32 PM

So jimmy, how did it go?
Was at kiddy again today. Boucing quite a bit at the rear so I think it's time to try the 501 shocks.
Met Simon from stoke there (says he knows you) Jeee suus can that man drive!
Embarrassed by my ineptitude doesn't quite cover it. Top fella though.
Is there a guide or a faq somewhere that will explain to me in words of 1 syllable or less the ins and outs of setting up suspension? Like what the differences are between the inner and outer holes on the shock mounts? How thicker oil will affect steering/traction? That kind of thing.
Basically an idiots guide for a............ beginner:)

werner1619 20-01-2008 08:45 PM

Hi,

Some good info here: http://users.pandora.be/elvo/
Hope you enjoy reading...
Take it slow, make sure you understand what is explained in each section before moving on to the next section...

W.
:)

wayneski 20-01-2008 08:47 PM

thank you sir. Slow is definitely my default setting!


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