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gargadud 02-07-2008 01:03 PM
Sorry for the silly question...

but what does UJ stand for?

a french speaking beginner :blush:

cjm_2008 02-07-2008 01:10 PM
pas de probleme :)

UJ = Universal Joint.

a cleverly engineered device which allows a turning force to be efficiently transmitted through a flexible joint. jump on wiki!

gargadud 02-07-2008 01:19 PM
Merci beaucoup :thumbsup:

is it the same as the CVDs ?

sparrow.2 02-07-2008 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gargadud (Post 139067)
Merci beaucoup :thumbsup:

is it the same as the CVDs ?
CVD stands for Constant Velocity Driveshaft and is technically different to a UJ. MIP driveshafts are the CVD type.

UJ
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rsal_joint.gif

CVD
http://aedownloads.com/downloads/item_photos/7383.jpg

Si tu veux, je peut te l'expliquer en ortographie terrible en francais ;)

gargadud 03-07-2008 07:24 AM
Merci mais comme disait Napoléon "un bon dessin vaut mieux qu'un long discours ":)

Thanks to you my technical english made a quantum leap :thumbsup:

Spoolio 04-07-2008 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stefke (Post 139038)
Now the Lipo era has come, I wanted to try my Lipo'ed TRF501X against a Lipo'ed DB01. (started a thread about this here : http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11867).

So I went along and order a Durga with the following Hopups :

DB01 Slipper set
DB01 Front one way set
Eccentric belt tensioner - TRF501X
Suspension Ball 8pcs - Fluorine Coated
DB01 Carbon Reinforced - A-parts (Diff Cover)
DB01 Carbon Reinforced - D-parts (Caster Block)
DB01 Carbon Reinforced - L-parts (Steering Arm)
DB01 Carbon Reinforced - M-parts (Damper Stay)
DB01 Carbon Fiber Reinforce - Chassis
DB01 motor heat sink
DB01 Champ Ti screw set

I will also use spare TRF shocks, steel outdrives and ceramic diff balls i already had for my TRF501X

I choose not to order the new alu suspension mounts since carbon items are included in de carbon reinforced parts.

My question : have I missed something to make my future DB01 race-ready ?
I'd be very interested to know what you think of the carbon chassis. I am thinking of building up a new Durga to the same spec for the forthcoming Worksop indoor series starting in the autumn. I've kinda lost interest over the summer as I've had other things to do but I fancy throwing a new car together soon.

stefke 04-07-2008 09:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoolio (Post 139738)
I'd be very interested to know what you think of the carbon chassis. I am thinking of building up a new Durga to the same spec for the forthcoming Worksop indoor series starting in the autumn. I've kinda lost interest over the summer as I've had other things to do but I fancy throwing a new car together soon.
I'll let you know, but according to everything i've read here, I'm not going to have fun building it. :D

B44&501xRacerEX 05-07-2008 05:59 PM
Does the durga come with universals? Or the standard tamiya dob-bones.

gargadud 05-07-2008 06:14 PM
comes with standard dog-bones :(

A.J. Gee 07-07-2008 01:09 AM
Whats up with the prices on the Tamiya website. Everything has gone up in price by a considerable amount. They have the Durga/baldre listed for $339.00 This is crazy. I dont know if there is a price glitch on the site or what. Check it out if you have a minute.:mad:

peetbee 07-07-2008 01:23 AM
TamiyaUSA.com? If yes then I see them it as $339 too. How much were they before?

Also, question time for anyone that's run a set of AE B4 shocks on the DB01.

Can you suggest a suitable starting point for oil and springs, mainly grass and astro tracks?
Are the TRF shocks that different?
How did you fix the shocks to the standard towers?

Thanks

Toonz 07-07-2008 03:46 AM
question here....
what is a good esc for a sport tuned motor?

i have a budget so i don't want to spend too much....

any recommendation?

thanks guys :)

DCM 07-07-2008 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 140056)
TamiyaUSA.com? If yes then I see them it as $339 too. How much were they before?

Also, question time for anyone that's run a set of AE B4 shocks on the DB01.

Can you suggest a suitable starting point for oil and springs, mainly grass and astro tracks?
Are the TRF shocks that different?
How did you fix the shocks to the standard towers?

Thanks
Pete, take them off the B4 (35wt front 30wt rear and the stock pistons) and go from there.... maybe go from the green to the silver front.

peetbee 07-07-2008 11:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCM (Post 140070)
Pete, take them off the B4 (35wt front 30wt rear and the stock pistons) and go from there.... maybe go from the green to the silver front.
Thanks Steve, just use the bolts etc off the B4 too then?





erm, I may have a bodyshell that needs painting soon ;)

DCM 07-07-2008 12:04 PM
better to use a metric screw and nut but use the AE stand-offs.

TRF_AK 07-07-2008 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 140056)
TamiyaUSA.com? If yes then I see them it as $339 too. How much were they before?
Regarding the price increase, yes we did raise our prices last week by 15% due to the poor state of the economy in the U.S. more specifically the value of the U.S. Dollar, we really did not have a choice.

DCM 07-07-2008 03:39 PM
what a bummer, that means you could be losing more sales to Asia then? As for the UK support of cars, it is laughable.

peetbee 07-07-2008 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCM (Post 140123)
what a bummer, that means you could be losing more sales to Asia then? As for the UK support of cars, it is laughable.
What support? ;)

DCM 07-07-2008 03:56 PM
I can't even get a diff pulley in the UK at the moment grrrrr

TRF_AK 07-07-2008 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCM (Post 140123)
what a bummer, that means you could be losing more sales to Asia then? As for the UK support of cars, it is laughable.
Unforunately we have nothing to do with the UK support or the Asian market either as each area is treated almost as its own entity. That means that a lot of what happens for parts ordering and support is dictated by what the people in charge of that region feel is needed.

The Asian market has always been the priority of Tamiya much the same as America is the priority of a company like Ford, and Germany is of a company like Audi. Sales in the Asian market will always be considerably higher than other areas.

A.J. Gee 07-07-2008 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRF_AK (Post 140121)
Regarding the price increase, yes we did raise our prices last week by 15% due to the poor state of the economy in the U.S. more specifically the value of the U.S. Dollar, we really did not have a choice.
Wow are you kidding me? This is ridiculous. It looks like i wont be ordering any parts from Tamiya U.S.A. I am very sorry to say, but you guy's have lost a customer. I already thought your prices were a lil steep but now with the %15 increase there is no way I can afford to buy from you guys. Will the asian market be staying the same? If not then it looks like i will have no choice but to switch brands. This is all very disapointing news to me.:thumbdown:

stefke 07-07-2008 07:51 PM
Even with a 15% increase, you guys in the US musn't complain about RC prices. Why do you think we in europe were ordering in the US even when the $ wasn't so weak compaired to the euro or the £.
And you have support from Tamiya USA. Tamiya support in the europe (not only in the UK) is laughable at best.

A.J. Gee 07-07-2008 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stefke (Post 140173)
Even with a 15% increase, you guys in the US musn't complain about RC prices. Why do you think we in europe were ordering in the US even when the $ wasn't so weak compaired to the euro or the £.
And you have support from Tamiya USA. Tamiya support in the europe (not only in the UK) is laughable at best.
Yeah i understand that you guys have it worse, but when you get used to paying certain prices and then one day they suddenly shoot up %15 it is quite a shocker. It's too bad the U.S. economy is headed for the shit hole. Tamiya USA are only hurting themselves by the price hike because it now forces people like myself to shop the asian market. Luckily i stocked up on 3 diff pulleys before this all happened.

DCM 07-07-2008 09:31 PM
I just wish Tamiya USA would sell overseas.... but you got to like Tamiya USA, they are actively involved in the racing scene and support all the cars, Hobby Co (UK Importer) brought in 10 501X's, and no spares....

A.J. Gee 07-07-2008 10:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCM (Post 140217)
I just wish Tamiya USA would sell overseas.... but you got to like Tamiya USA, they are actively involved in the racing scene and support all the cars, Hobby Co (UK Importer) brought in 10 501X's, and no spares....
HaHa what a joke. They export 10 racing buggies to you guys over in the UK, but provide no parts support. What do they expect, nothing on the vehicles to go wrong. That is bad business if you ask me. I love Tamiya but they definitley have some issues that need to be worked out. It kills me that if you have one of their r/c vehicles that is a few years old and need parts for it, you have to go on a huge search for it and then you end up paying double the price of the original cost. It's almost as if they consider their vehicles that are a few years old vintage.

DCM 07-07-2008 10:50 PM
they have made a market for 'sort after' models though, and thats a good business practice for them.

As for the UK, if it is a TRF car, don't bother trying to get parts in the UK.

A.J. Gee 07-07-2008 11:21 PM
I was wondering what some of you guys would think to be a good tool for cutting out the air vents in the Durga shell? I will eventually place pieces of screen over the vents once i have them cut out. I was thinking about using my lexan scissors, but any other suggestions would be appreciated.

DCM 07-07-2008 11:25 PM
I use a body reamer and put holes in it rather than cutting it fully out, otherwise, a dremmel?

A.J. Gee 08-07-2008 12:09 AM
Thats a good idea my friend. i will give that a try and let you know how it works out. Thanks.:thumbsup:

ralphee 08-07-2008 07:47 AM
Yup, body ream a hole to start off, then "slot" it with a small Dremel grind tool, i will run my DB01 one day, at the minute is just sitting slowly being hopped up LOL, still the Jon Miller shell makes it look pretty on the shelf for now!

lee

gargadud 08-07-2008 08:31 AM
For those interested, we manage to fit the Trakpower 4800 saddle packs in the Durga !
It was not an easy fit given the height of the packs…
We had to build a kind of "booster seat" for the carbon battery holder using the leftover of the carbon reinforced hop up parts with the aluminium screw on the top and another screw at the bottom.
In addition, we welded a new set of cables with 90deg cable/connectors to reduce the height. Without it the body could not fit.

A lot of work just for a new battery, but the result is amazing! The next mod is a pair of wings for the Durga :lol:

TRF_AK 08-07-2008 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A.J. Gee (Post 140212)
Yeah i understand that you guys have it worse, but when you get used to paying certain prices and then one day they suddenly shoot up %15 it is quite a shocker. It's too bad the U.S. economy is headed for the shit hole. Tamiya USA are only hurting themselves by the price hike because it now forces people like myself to shop the asian market. Luckily i stocked up on 3 diff pulleys before this all happened.
While I understand your frustration with the price inscrease, I can tell you the stance of Tamiya USA is that our website always has the highest prices in the USA and we will tell you that via email or over the phone. We always suggest people look at all other options, such as online or local hobby stores, before buying from us. We will always charge full MSRP for our kits and parts because we are not setup to be a full fledged store, but rather a support system if you cannot find the parts in other places. We do not want to cannibalize sales of our stores.

The price increase is also something that was not USA's decision. We are a branch of Japan, and they dictate what our prices will be. Unfortunately, the system works in the way where a lot is out of our control in areas such as pricing.

Sorry for getting off topic, but let's get back to the thread at hand. if anyone has any further questions, please feel free to PM me rather than posting here.

SORRY ABOUT THE HI-JACKING JIMMY!!!!!

DCM 08-07-2008 04:45 PM
thats a cool explanation, and I for one can fully understand why you NEED to be seen to sell at MSRP and not discount it, as then that makes it harder for the stores to sell!

Can you sell to the UK though.... pleeeeeeeeeeeeease??

A.J. Gee 09-07-2008 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphee (Post 140263)
Yup, body ream a hole to start off, then "slot" it with a small Dremel grind tool, i will run my DB01 one day, at the minute is just sitting slowly being hopped up LOL, still the Jon Miller shell makes it look pretty on the shelf for now!

lee
What gear are you running in your DB-01 Ralphee? And can we get some pics please?

Toonz 09-07-2008 01:29 AM
guys, can you recommend an esc that's suitable for racing?

is nosram good?

sparrow.2 09-07-2008 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonz (Post 140530)
guys, can you recommend an esc that's suitable for racing?

is nosram good?
Nosram is fine, as is LRP, Novak, Speed Passion, Losi etc.

Interesting ones at the moment are the Losi Excelorin sensored and the Speed Passion GT1.1 LPF. Several people here have used the Losi system and liked it. I used the Speed Passion at the last race I went to and it's great, didn't miss a beat, has lots of adjustments without being difficult and just does it's thing very nicely at a very competitive price.

Toonz 09-07-2008 08:09 AM
thanks and what about Keyence ExStraight? are they any good? :)

ralphee 09-07-2008 08:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A.J. Gee (Post 140529)
What gear are you running in your DB-01 Ralphee? And can we get some pics please?

LOL im way behind the times AJ, Hara twister on a 19t Checkpoint lol, i will go brushless once i find the time to really get back to racing TBH bud, but im trying to source a decent 1/18 right now too, so that will eat my cash lol.
Bagged one of those nice Bluebird MG servos Jimmy used in the TRF501 review too, other than that, its built with TI screws, one way fitted, along with a slipper, 3 racing towers and TRF shock set and UJ's all round.

Ill take a snap or two soon, just to show of Jon's work on the Satoshi replica shell, its a killer!

lee

sparrow.2 09-07-2008 08:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonz (Post 140544)
thanks and what about Keyence ExStraight? are they any good? :)
Get yourself a brushless system. Less maintenance to do and it will last you longer.

mog ruith 09-07-2008 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparrow.2 (Post 140537)
Nosram is fine, as is LRP, Novak, Speed Passion, Losi etc.

Interesting ones at the moment are the Losi Excelorin sensored and the Speed Passion GT1.1 LPF. Several people here have used the Losi system and liked it. I used the Speed Passion at the last race I went to and it's great, didn't miss a beat, has lots of adjustments without being difficult and just does it's thing very nicely at a very competitive price.
did you run the sp gt speedo or the exige??
does anyone knows how good does the exige performs??


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