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Nick Goodall 18-03-2008 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 105178)
There ya go Andy, tell Jason to 'nip round' and get some measurements for a SX 'illuzion' shell :)

I feel like a matchmaker.

Now that is a genius idea - i can only imagine how good it would look then :thumbsup:

Haha i'm not sure Mark, i've been out of touch for some time now - i still hope to do Nats next year (2009) after my wedding and everything has been and gone but that's a bit of a not sure really as the wife to be isn't to keen on the racing but hey, what can she do! Divorce me? Ooh yeah.... she could actually lol Anyway, we'll see what happens this year but i'm pleased to see all these manufacturers getting new cars out, it can only be good for 10th off road - just a shame some of the top guys are reverting to 8th permenantly :thumbdown:

Andy Moore 18-03-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Bailey (Post 105183)
hmm, maybe we can work something out lol

Woo hoo!

Jean-Christophe 20-03-2008 09:47 AM

Hi

was written on Schumacher website that they hope to release body off pics that week.

Come on Mossy, Matthew or Ralf, any comment??

JC

trekkerkk 20-03-2008 04:45 PM

http://www.racing-cars.com/main.asp?sitepages=cat_sx2

i think this is what youve been waiting for:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

trekkker

super__dan 20-03-2008 04:54 PM

Holy crap, can't even decide in my own mind whether i like it or not.

telboy 20-03-2008 04:58 PM

Hmm, Strange layout.

Looks like it could be a pain in the arse to work on (diff/gearbox wise).

Not sure about it really, maybe it will grow on me.:eh?:

dancoog 20-03-2008 04:59 PM

It looks like some mad scientist's version of a RC car.
wow is the only thing I can say.

I can't decide either if it looks cool creative or just plain strange.

Adam Bailey 20-03-2008 05:06 PM

I think creative is the way to go, we were impressed in the states:thumbsup:

the "adjustable" internal ratio is probably the best thing I've heard from any car company out there, now cars are being built to "user specs" whereas my buddy who runs brushed will have the best ratio option, and myself who runs brushless can have the best option for easier ratios:drool:

super__dan 20-03-2008 05:06 PM

Actually in general I do like it.

2 initial comments though, you have to run the aerial down the length of the car??? And notice the speedo changes to an LRP for the nimh shots, does their speedo passion one not fit?

Fairly minor things though

ryan 20-03-2008 05:11 PM

First impressions i think it looks quite good, it looks as alot of thought has gone in to it for the right reasons, not just producing another ordinary 4wd car.
It looks quite robust with all the alliminuim pieces, i think it will definetly be one to look out for this year!

Will have to wait and see it go around the track before i judge it completely.
:thumbsup:

Adam Bailey 20-03-2008 05:14 PM

hmm, I had not noticed the aerial until I looked twice????

Depending on if your running DSM or not with a shorter wire could be an issue??


Quote:

Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 105638)
Actually in general I do like it.

2 initial comments though, you have to run the aerial down the length of the car??? And notice the speedo changes to an LRP for the nimh shots, does their speedo passion one not fit?

Fairly minor things though


niggs98 20-03-2008 05:14 PM

nice find m8, i like that a lot, nice to see another belt drive

Nick Goodall 20-03-2008 05:18 PM

Certainly different - i can't see anything wrong with it and if you read the spec below it all sounds pretty good - they've put a lot of thought into it which is great to see :thumbsup:

Cruise 20-03-2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telboy (Post 105630)
Looks like it could be a pain in the arse to work on (diff/gearbox wise).

As I mentioned before only 4 screws to get a diff out.

I hope everything I teased you with makes sense now.

Cruise

muzzy 20-03-2008 05:23 PM

Dan,
Speed Passion GT speedo DOES fit in the car, so no worries there.
Mark

super__dan 20-03-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzy (Post 105650)
Dan,
Speed Passion GT speedo DOES fit in the car, so no worries there.
Mark

when you're as bored as I am at home these days you become a synic and start looking for things to entertain you. I can't wait to get out of the house again on sunday! ;)

jimmy 20-03-2008 05:33 PM

looks good to me, I guess there's not quite as much of a pressing urgency for me to dash over from the neo race to get some exclusive spy shots now tho! :p

MattW 20-03-2008 06:15 PM

Diffs do come out very easily - at least the rear one did when we had to do a quick rebuild last time i tested (the only rebuild that diff had had through all it's running - a lot!!)

Lee 20-03-2008 06:25 PM

Not pretty is it:confused:

Its not something that im going to rush out and buy just from the pics, i hope it performs for them, its not my cup of tea but each to there own!!:thumbsup:

OldTimer 20-03-2008 06:41 PM

Looks like its gear as well as belt drive at the rear, which is how the motor has been flipped over and still drive forwards :D

Wraggy 20-03-2008 06:42 PM

not sure if i like it? think im with you on this lee :bored:, just looks all very messy in there and all the open gears/pulleys and belts !!!! are you not just asking for trouble ??

MiniGaz 20-03-2008 07:10 PM

anyone else actually noticed the amount of undertray trimming that is needed to fit the lipo in. check the front edge of the tray by the lipo and servo. you may have also noticed that it' looks like 2 different protos, and not just 1 that has been converted.

RogerM 20-03-2008 07:15 PM

I have to praise Schumacher for thinking well outside the box. If people shoot down a company for doing anything out of the ordinary then the sport won't move forward and we'll end up driving the same car ..... just with different logos on (hold on .... aren't we nearly there already???)

Weight distribution looks good, layout probably looks worse than it actually is in those pics ..... I bet it looks much easier to work on with the cells out!!!

Good on Schumacher for being different .... and proving to the world that we are still the most inovative and, well excentric (sp?) country in the world!!!

Richard Lowe 20-03-2008 07:26 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how you are supposed to plug the batteries in on the NiMh car... :confused:

Does the link wire run from the back cell of the 4 on the inside of the car to the front cell of the 2 cells, again toward the middle of the car? If it does do you have to thread the 2 cells under all the topdeck and elastic bands to take them out the left side of the car?!

DCM 20-03-2008 07:31 PM

well, they have done what I thought they would of needed to do to get the motor to rotate the same way as the wheels, but, I dunno, looks like one of Mad Mike Bartons creations from years ago.

Also, for 'production' cars, I hope the two idler gears are not nylon from RW, or at least one is hard coated alloy..... otherwsie be bye bye teeth on a bad run.

Otherwise, hmmmmm

vader 20-03-2008 07:42 PM

I thought meccano went out in the 80's :confused:

Alfonzo 20-03-2008 08:00 PM

Boy, what the hell would you know about the '80's ?? :lol:

I like it. Looks radical, and totally different. And that's a good thing. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

GRIFF55 20-03-2008 08:05 PM

Looks good, and different from the norm. Good luck shuey!!

bert digler 20-03-2008 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 105697)
Looks good, and different from the norm. Good luck shuey!!

what an abortion:thumbdown:

elvo 20-03-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 105683)
I'm still trying to figure out how you are supposed to plug the batteries in on the NiMh car... :confused:


Very carefully!! :lol:



Well the weight is in the right place, and the motor spins the right way... ... at the cost of some complexity.

Can't see what the motor is mounted to though :confused: Hope there's some sort of 3rd bulkhead down there.


So Schum boys, what's with this variable ratio? Do you switch the white pulleys around?

stegger 20-03-2008 08:19 PM

Really don't like it:thumbdown: to much to go wrong and to clutted, as Mr lowe said it looks to much of a fiddle with the cells. Lipo cell layout looks a lot better though. When you consider the cars from Aero and the forthcoming S500 from serpent they look far more user friendly. But saying all that good on schuie for coming out with something different.

Cruise 20-03-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvo (Post 105700)

Can't see what the motor is mounted to though :confused: Hope there's some sort of 3rd bulkhead down there.


Unique clamp motor mount to fine tune weight distribution, and allow motor changes without affecting gear mesh.

That what I was trying to say with:
I could explain the reason for the holes but then your brain will explode(the holes in the undertray).

Cruise

Richard Lowe 20-03-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruise (Post 105704)
Unique clamp motor mount to fine tune weight distribution, and allow motor changes without affecting gear mesh.

That what I was trying to say with:
I could explain the reason for the holes but then your brain will explode(the holes in the undertray).

Cruise

/Is confused :confused:

telboy 20-03-2008 08:36 PM

How can you make a motor change without effecting gear mesh? Surely the pinion comes out with the motor?
To remove the motor I would think that you've got to loosen the cam mount?

MattW 20-03-2008 08:39 PM

yeah, pinion comes out with motor - as in on the end of the shaft. However, motor mount doesn't move, so you can put motor back in, and clamp it down and it will still be meshed.

Lee 20-03-2008 09:18 PM

[quote=stegger;105702]Really don't like it:thumbdown: quote]


Fantastic, first one to say it:lol:

Lindsay 20-03-2008 09:30 PM

CAT XS
 
I have it on fairly good authority that the CAT will be running at Worksop this Sunday

DCM 20-03-2008 10:05 PM

so you slide the motor mount or you have a rotating mount like on the TC4 stylee..... so you can pull the motor and the mounting position is stable....

i.e. the motor attaches to a plate with fixed holes, then you use the plate to rotate/slide to alter mesh.... oh boy, this car gets more complex by the minute...

telboy 20-03-2008 10:18 PM

Ah, I think I see now Matt.
Any chance of a more closer pickie of it?
I understand what your saying but pics would make it clearer to people.?

:)

MattW 20-03-2008 10:32 PM

The only pics i have are the ones that are posted on the site, so i'm afraid i can't help you with that one. In fact, it's an area that we have had no problems with - certainly when i've tested, so if i'm honest, i can't fully describe it in intimate detail, cos i haven't looked that closely at it!! It's just had an SP 5.5 motor in, and it hasn't ben touched in any way!!


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