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_sleigh_ 19-02-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokin (Post 95826)
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Damn, did I miss something

markwilliamson2001 19-02-2008 04:27 PM

Whatever...

I think from the price guidelines given earlier in this post, that they have pitched the car at far too high a price, to actually make any revenue from it...(i.e. it just wont sell due to being far too expensive)
Just look at how popular the B44 is - why is that you ask?
Because it is cheap to buy, and comes with nearly everything that you could actually need to start racing without any massive upgrades etc etc.

However, this is all speculation, and no actual confirmed price has been given by schumacher as of yet, so we will have to wait and see.

I would love to see them back in R/C, but they will have to keep with the original design for a while before changing the chassis layout... shock mounts... etc etc, just like the Cat2k/ec, as that sucks.

James 19-02-2008 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _sleigh_ (Post 95827)
Damn, did I miss something

I was going to get involved but decided against it ..

Schuey simply want to do a proper product launch, it wont be too long..

There have been a few innacurate comments about the car (not meaning the fun ones obviouly)..

Just wait for the release where you'll have pro pictures, all the details, usual product launch literature etc..

Car will be cool ;)

_sleigh_ 19-02-2008 05:00 PM

Yeah, I think most of this thread is pretty light hearted.

Sch. should make a decent job of it, as I'm sure they learnt their lesson from the Cat 4K.

jimmy 19-02-2008 05:09 PM

you can only say 'sit tight and wait' when you're on the 'inside' ;) those of us who are firmly on the outside have to rely on rumour and gossip! :woot:

Chris Doughty 19-02-2008 05:14 PM

sit tight and wait

im not on the inside, I can do it.

you know it will be a million times worse when we have pictures, but have never seen the car in person.

.... release the interweb engineers!

vader 19-02-2008 05:16 PM

It should be quick when it finally hits the track if the rumors about who has been testing/developing the car are true...

jimmy 19-02-2008 05:17 PM

For me sit tight and wait means it's already on a double page ad spread and reviewed in Radio Controlled Car Action magazine. fact.

Cruise 19-02-2008 05:19 PM

What do you think about it Jimmy?

Cruise.

Cruise 19-02-2008 05:29 PM

As i can`t think of more details that I can give you without telling you everything about the drivetrain it`s now sit back time for me aswell.

-Sorry guys.

Cruise

jimmy 19-02-2008 06:16 PM

Nothing wrong with telling us all ;)
Lil birdy told me they were testing at worksop the evening before the last meeting. I'm gonna ask one of the cleaners there if they know anything.:lol:

Tom3012 19-02-2008 06:24 PM

hope we havent all over hyped this car ;)... it better be good :lol:

Lee 19-02-2008 07:27 PM

Arent all cars over hyped? Especially nowadays with the internet, we are doing exactly what schuey want us too, if they had of shown a pic of the car like serpent did we would of all gone yeah it looks nice,different, whatever and moved on like we have with the s500, but with just allowing pics of a towel and a set of wheels we are speculating and building the hype while schuey sit back and allow us to promote their product.

very clever marketing, i bet they sell 50 cars just from people reading the speculation in this thread.

DaveG28 19-02-2008 07:36 PM

I still can;t work out the 4x2 cell layout which also allows LIPO stick packs!? Are both those facts confirmed??

If so, then presumably the layout is either similar to the drawing Phil has done with the 4x2 being forced by some element of the main chassis layout (otherwise why not just 6 in a line!?), or maybe you have 4 on one side of the centre, and 2 on the other side, but maybe the electrics could all be moved to the side with 2 cells to enable one long stick pack ont he other side!?

Either way, I am :confused:

big air 19-02-2008 07:38 PM

might be shaft drive ;) with the shaft down the side like the old tamiya cars

Mossy 19-02-2008 07:58 PM

There are numerous things we are testing on the car. As of yet the chassis is still in development to take numerous configurations of batteries etc, so all the details that have been posted on this thread (including Ralf M. comments) are still unconfirmed.

The only things that can be confirmed are -
1. The car is belt driven, utilising 3 belts.
2. We are looking at all options regarding battery types and configurations, in order to maintain the best weight distribution.

Any other details are still unconfirmed, including the price as far as I know.

There are still various parts we are testing, which is why the car has not been given a public debut yet. However, there is a possibility of it being run at Worksop on Sunday if the circumstances are right.

Hope this helps.

Si

RogerM 19-02-2008 07:59 PM

Ignor me ... LOL ... (see dan's post below for the original false statement!!!)

I have been informed incorrectly ..... that will teach me ... LOL.

super__dan 19-02-2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 95894)
Lipos aren't as long as 6 sub c cells in line, apparently the 4 cell arrangement on the X5 allows a Lipo t be squeezed in so it must be possible.

Not quite, you can fit one on the 4 cell side of the chassis but to fit one extends literally within a few mm from the back of the servo to the back of the chassis, taking the space for the receiver etc. Most Lipo are pretty much bang on same size as 6 cells.

Hope to see it on Sunday, I am amazed at the amount of competetive 4wd's out there now, it is almost rediculous!

elvo 19-02-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_WOODY (Post 95815)
thats how i had it pictured in my mind !


Where's the motor then? :eh?:

Cells can't be right. I don't think you can fit 3 layshafts, a motor, and 6 cells down the length of a car with a normal wheelbase.

I'm guessing those 4 cells out of the 4+2 would go laterally, with a belt going over them. That'd suit the 100mm width...

_sleigh_ 19-02-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 95892)
There are numerous things we are testing on the car. As of yet the chassis is still in development to take numerous configurations of batteries etc, so all the details that have been posted on this thread (including Ralf M. comments) are still unconfirmed.

The only things that can be confirmed are -
1. The car is belt driven, utilising 3 belts.
2. We are looking at all options regarding battery types and configurations, in order to maintain the best weight distribution.

Any other details are still unconfirmed, including the price as far as I know.

There are still various parts we are testing, which is why the car has not been given a public debut yet. However, there is a possibility of it being run at Worksop on Sunday if the circumstances are right.

Hope this helps.

Si

Quit your jibba jabba, where's those entries!! ;)

telboy 19-02-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Lil birdy told me they were testing at worksop the evening before the last meeting. I'm gonna ask one of the cleaners there if they know anything
Maybe you can bribe them with a maccies jimmy.:woot::thumbsup:

TRF_Tastic 19-02-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvo (Post 95906)
Where's the motor then? :eh?:

Cells can't be right. I don't think you can fit 3 layshafts, a motor, and 6 cells down the length of a car with a normal wheelbase.

I'm guessing those 4 cells out of the 4+2 would go laterally, with a belt going over them. That'd suit the 100mm width...

Elvo, take a look at the Team Magic E4, I know its a touring car, but that has a 3 belt layout central cells and motor. So it can be done with some thought.

MattW 20-02-2008 05:20 PM

Phil, you clearly have far too much time on your hands!! I think this thread, it's quite amusing!! :thumbsup:

jimmy 20-02-2008 05:25 PM

that's what it's for - entertainment! :thumbsup:

Cruise 20-02-2008 05:33 PM

I told you it`s gonna be fun.
At least for the insiders.

Cruise

_sleigh_ 20-02-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattW (Post 96258)
Phil, you clearly have far too much time on your hands!! I think this thread, it's quite amusing!! :thumbsup:

Time, it only took about 98 seconds to come up with that design. I'm sure Sch. took a little longer with their design. (i hope)

Lee 20-02-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _sleigh_ (Post 96270)
Time, it only took about 98 seconds to come up with that design. I'm sure Sch. took a little longer with their design. (i hope)

I heard 20 mins, but they had a tea break after the brainstorming session then they just drew pictures and picked the nicest looking one:thumbsup:

supersonic 20-02-2008 06:23 PM

I just talked to CS, Schumacher Iport to Germany. They said it'll be aboiut a month before pics of the cat sx will be released. :-( What happened to those spy shots? nic

Roger_M 20-02-2008 09:50 PM

Does anyone actually think this car will be a match for the ZX5 SP at next years worlds, i personally dont, and my contacts say the SP will rule for years to come:p

RogerM 20-02-2008 10:06 PM

LOL ..... is somebody being a little silly ..... :D

I actually think there is a very good chance that Schumacher will come up with a great car ...... lets face it, that would not be the first time as anybody else from back in the 80s and 90s will remember!!!!

I can't wait ot see it to be honest. Although it is unlikely to sway my chassis choice for 08 it WILL be differnt from most and that, on it's own, will make it a very interesting car.

Chrislong 20-02-2008 10:27 PM

I wonder if the Active Castor System will be used, being the uncopied weapon it once was on the wiperblade. :lol:

stefke 20-02-2008 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 96309)
I actually think there is a very good chance that Schumacher will come up with a great car ...... lets face it, that would not be the first time as anybody else from back in the 80s and 90s will remember!!!!

Right ! Just thinking back about the SST makes me nausious ! :cry:

But I'll give them the CAT2000. It was great

supersonic 21-02-2008 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger_M (Post 96299)
Does anyone actually think this car will be a match for the ZX5 SP at next years worlds, i personally dont, and my contacts say the SP will rule for years to come:p

depends if they get capable drivers. I personally think you could give a pro any upper class 4wd offroad car from the last 10 years and with some time he could make the A @ the worlds. Changes have been minimal, at best.

nic

Richard Lowe 21-02-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 96316)
I wonder if the Active Castor System will be used, being the uncopied weapon it once was on the wiperblade. :lol:

That would be different! I used to have the active caster conversion on my alloy tub RC10, it was ace :D

Lee 21-02-2008 11:08 AM

You ran active rear toe on the bj in the final of the super cup as well rich:p

Richard Lowe 21-02-2008 11:25 AM

Yeah it would probably help if I tightened the screws in the pivot blocks properly :p

Cruise 26-02-2008 05:59 PM

To bring this thread a little back to life.

The CAT SX will feature excentric belt tensioners to eliminate the need of belt rollers.


Prototype seen, details may vary.

Cruise.

Northy 26-02-2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruise (Post 98177)
To bring this thread a little back to life.

The CAT SX will feature excentric belt tensioners to eliminate the need of belt rollers.


Prototype seen, details may vary.

Cruise.

Like my ProCat? :confused:

G

Cant drive Andy 26-02-2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexSpeed (Post 91260)
It's so boring. It's like racing on... astroturf. :D :p


I grew up on loose dirt REAL off road tracks that didn't have cartoonish out-of-proportion supercross jumps and polished surfaces that needed rubber slicks. To me, that's not off road, that's lazy track owners and marketing hype.

I know it's what everyone likes here, but to me, it's not much fun. I'd much rather race on a TT-style loose dirt track. We only get those tracks outdoors here, and now they are all MASSIVE for 1/8th buggies. Blech.



Anyway, think there is any chance that this car is capable of handling a LiPo 6-cell pack with the 3-belt system?

come race at eden park, it may be astro but it dont always behave like astro

Cruise 27-02-2008 02:12 PM

There will be no Blades on the driveshafts.

Prototype seen, details may vary.

Cruise.


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