I will admit, if a car hasn't got a built in servo saver, if I can't fit a Kimbrough on the servo I don't buy it. I have tried running without one in TC and done two servo's, I can't afford to be replacing servo's regular, for us working on a small budget etc, anything that removes expensive breakages is better, far prefer to replace a £10 saver than a £50-£60 servo saver.

This is not a criticism of Schumacher, as other cars do the same, just an observation.

I have mixed fealing on servo savers, now the one on my B4 has been glued up for the last 3 years, no probs, but i have been driving for 20 years+ and can normaly manage not hitting track markers flat out! BUT this said I glued up a club member's saver as it was worn...lasted 2heats then stripped the gears:blush:

Servo savers are still very much needed for beginers, they don't buy tamiyas anymore, they buy what they see. and then they don't want to buy mega servos
So this is so simple, if you need a servo saver fit an after market one,simples:D. once you have grown out of it, take it off!!!

The only thing that would be nice is that enough space is left in the new cars to fit a servo saver

Hit the nail on the head there!

No reason to run a servo saver of any kind in 10th these days IMO if you have a half decent servo. As Tom has already said they are never strong enough to hold the wheels under load and make the steering inconsistent. I've not broken any of my Savox or AE servo's in 10th with no servo savers on any of my cars. For me if anything goes it's the plastic servo horn - but that's only if you hit something just right without managing to take a whole front corner off!

I cant remember the last time I ran a servo saver, I don't like how it makes the car feel a bit inconsistent.

I just run a plastic servo horn and decent servo's, never had to replace any gears in a servo just replaced a couple of servo horns after the occasional little 'moment'.

Yas I agree, better without, but thats us hard core racers, Just last week I sold my gran so I could get 2x new savox for my rallyx:lol:, need an engine now...so i guess the kidney is on the market:woot:

Some will want the £300+ car and have to cut back on the radio at club level, The 1st thing that turns new people to our hobby away is when we start saying ££££ when they look at the cars, and turn our nose up if they are unable to spend money on top line stuff
A servo saver makes sence for them as they get to finish races,

Ive been reading your posts and you all sound like lovely people. So we say servo savers save servos ok. Ive been racing 5 years now and if the car had one built in normally it was locked in its tightest position or glued up or if it didnt have one then oh well. All i seemed to break was a servo horn and still have my moments. If you want to wine about it why not instead of hiding behind your keyboards come chat to us guys at racing and the team at schumacher. Yes its a public forum but you guys seem to want to damage a hard working name. And if you have intention of buying a car then make a point and then go watch east enders. I stop reading the threads wen you guys sound like one of my aunties.

So if you want a servo saver with all this experiance online im sure someone will help you find one :0)

Trish is right and have to say with my SV & SX there are top notch crew.

When they came to TORCH they helped non Schumacher racers too :)

Since having the Cougar I have had three servo horns strip and have a Futaba 9550 awaiting internal gears. If I were a better driver then it would be less likely to happen but it is annoying. Schumacher Servo Horns are not cheap either. I know you get three in the bag but two are useless unless you can find someone to swap the non-futaba ones with. I can understand why the car designs don't have them for the reasons Tom has stated but it would be a 'nice to have'...

If I was going to change by B44 to something else in 2011 the SX3 would be the one.. but I think I will stick with the AE for another season :wub

Must say we all had a great day at TORCH and will be making the trip again soon.

Mike

Personally I think it all looks pretty good, and having run my SX2 for only 3 meetings, am not disappointed that a new car has arrived. The SX2 is a great car but if it can be made better with an overhaul then so be it. These companies are here to make money and so R&D keeps going, trying to improve what is already out there. I'd rather see a company moving on and developing their product, making it better for us, rather than just admitting the car was crap and they can't be arsed to make it any better.

For someone to slag a car/manufacturer off so harshly (complete with crap spelling and grammar) without even having raced one for a decent amount of time is ridiculous. And whats all this 'belt stripping' nonsense? I'm not the best driver in the world, so expect breakages when I crash...no matter what car I run. So I wouldn't say that the Schuey cars are any more fragile than any other out there.

Has the kit build standard been set yet for the CF Pro? e.g. Does it have titanium turn-buckles, alloy steering arms, alloy eccentric housings, Alloy front and rear suspension pivots etc. I see from photographs, that the cars at the toy fair are all different build standards (slightly), so can anyone confirm what it will be?

One for the shops, or the keen eyed oOpler, who's taking pre-orders on these and what will the price be?

Bob on tell. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Bob get off tel. Sorry I will get my coat.

Lol:)

I've told Bob about that before Spence! lol
It gets right on my nerves!.:woot:

At the end of the day if you really don't like Schumacher that much, then don't read the dam thread in the first place, if it has no interest to you or effect your life in any way then why leave playground comments? Of course people on this thread are going to have good things to say about Schumacher's cars, 80% of people who have commented on here are schumacher drivers or long term customers (and new) Thats like going on the Durango thread and saying there childish for not saying there car is shit! grow up! Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, as are the other users on this thread, who you are slagging off for having that opinion :eh?:

Everybody can act hardcore with a keyboard! :thumbsup:

You act hardcore with a keyboard tel
Yes I don't like Schumacher cars ( its not a crime)but I can read and comment as I like ,as a fan of Rc cars.And I do have plenty of experience with them!
As do others about other manufacturers how many threads have been like b44 vs dex and people list their comments

Make me think about classic forum crap I often saw on non rc related
Internet forums.

I really like the car, especially the new shell because I didn't like the
SX one. Always like Schumacher back to the Topcat, the SX
did make me fall into RC again and I will buy a SX3 for sure.

It seems it's going to be a challenge to wire the electronic properly,
can't wait to see team driver's cars.

REALLY.....your not done yet!!!!

I've wased enough time reading this.....I'll be back in a week to hopefully find the pissing contest is over:thumbdown:

It wasn't Tel that said this it was me!


That's because people have been asked to compare the cars for a reason! pros/cons etc....
It wasn't Tel that said this it was me!


I haven't seen anybody else on this thread being childish, and my comment wasn't aimed at anybody, it was just an observation of what i had read through the thread.

Sorry Tel
This threads a shocker:cry:

Anyway, back to talking about the SX3.

Can the SX3 shell fit on the SX2 chassis? And the SX2 shell on the SX3 - basically are they interchangeable?

No, the SX2 won't fit the SX3 becuase of where the spur gear is mounted in the middle the shell simply isn't high enough.

As for the SX3 fitting the SX2 i think maybe the rear of the shell is too low to go over the spur, i maybe wrong about this one but its a deffo no to the SX2 fitting the SX3 :)

Although i cant really tell if the SX3 shell is lower at the rear than the SX2 :eh?: Maybe the SX3 will fit the SX2

The SX3 shell is considerably wider than the SX orignal. When ive ran the 2 cars together the shell is far to different to swap.

I think adding all the bits together that the drivers who have had the car in there hands are saying are diffrent to the SX. I don't think a convo kit is possible:cry: as tom did point out a few days ago

from the shell I've got here to paint for the SX3, it won't fit the SX2, because where the spur gear is, the shell isn't shaped for it to fit under.

Everything else seems ok and body holes are in the same place.

Bugger!! Might have to spend my pennies on the sx3 then!!

Any pics of the cars with electrics in them, I'd be interested to see how tidy it all is ... running the battery cables looks rather long

I can confirm the sx3 shell wont fit the sx2 because of the spur gear. Much easier to paint without the split design like the sx2. Only a small piece under the steering each side you need to colour match but you hardly notice them.

mmmmmm
 

Just another expensive pussy to eat my dust.........:D:D

Weird that the majority of people having 'a go' at Rebelrc have sh!tstacker in their signature... or side smacker, sorry I mean, shoe cleaner... oh I don't know.. lol

Car looks poo anyway.. do feel sorry for all the kids out there that had to have the sx2 off Santa Claus!

Dicko.

and in a strange way your the only person who comes out in support of rebelrc, who I believe is scott dickinson...

and here is a post by you, signed off as scott...

http://oople.com/forums/showthread.p...949#post458949

And another here as 'dicko'...

http://oople.com/forums/showthread.p...899#post458899

and the rest of your post's are in support of vega, your brother's company?

very strange.....

Its not me!
So please edit your post
I have admitted to all concerned that i was being an idiot and apologised
then edited my posts to say this
I have had enough greif for being a plonker
i am keeping my opinions to myself from now on
And yes i am sorry

That is not me though

Look now we are online at the same time:(Enough proof
I know you all hate me but i am not sad enough to do that! 2 of me....mental

Moderators cant we just edit out all of my stupid posts and when ive been quoted...clean this thread up and get back to the catsx3
if you like set up a bash Rebelrc thread ...i would prefer that to this
cheers

Guys, Rebel and Frobes2 are different people. I know both of them in person.

As for the Vega comment, well its like saying i support/drive Tamiya's as my dad owns it? doesn't work. Ever thought that people might support the manufacturers because they like their products. That makes more sense to me :yawn:

Sorry, I am a friend of Scott (rebelrc) and have known him for about 20 years. I've only just started racing again and asked him for advice and help, which he kindly gave me, ref. car set up. We have the same christian name and a very similar surname as well as the same interests, cars, RC cars women etc. I personally don't like cats (the sx type, not the furry).. I apologise to those concerned for a bit of a childish post but would like a moderator to confirm our ip addresses are different and we are not the same person.. I should also apologise to Scott for getting the die hards wound up etc.

Enjoy ya sx3 everybody..

Dicko