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Southwell 24-07-2007 07:57 PM

Is that with my 90% discount? ;)

Doomanic 24-07-2007 08:02 PM

That's RRP, check out my website for the street price.:cool:

ryan 24-07-2007 08:06 PM

They in stock?

Doomanic 24-07-2007 08:19 PM

No, they haven't even been released yet!:p

If you order one online you will be mailed when they become available and you won't be charged until your kit is ready to ship.

ryan 24-07-2007 08:22 PM

Southwell told me to say it lol

Southwell 24-07-2007 08:48 PM

I said they wernt out u fool.

Kopite 25-07-2007 02:09 PM

it may or may not have already been posted in this thread somewhere, but i can't be arsed sifting through it....

is there an official (or even a rough estimate) Uk release date?

JCJC 25-07-2007 02:54 PM

September.......... ish ?

josh_smaxx 25-07-2007 02:59 PM

*Sigh* my christmas list just got longer :(

vader 25-07-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomanic (Post 52077)
That's RRP, check out my website for the street price.:cool:

Dom... cheaper... than... RRP...

wow

LEGEND 26-07-2007 09:39 PM

I have recently heard that the B44 slipper may fit in the BJ4 WE and i was wanting to know if this is true or not. As i have also heard that it can make a hell of a difference aswell. I would like to know as i wouldn't mind trying one out if it will fit in my BJ4 WE. Just to see the difference, e.g. if it easyer to use, or if it is just the same as the other one, performance wise.:)

Chris Doughty 27-07-2007 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEGEND (Post 52417)
I have recently heard that the B44 slipper may fit in the BJ4 WE and i was wanting to know if this is true or not. As i have also heard that it can make a hell of a difference aswell. I would like to know as i wouldn't mind trying one out if it will fit in my BJ4 WE. Just to see the difference, e.g. if it easyer to use, or if it is just the same as the other one, performance wise.:)


the information I have is that it 'will' fit the BJ4, but you might need to use some bearing caddys or something like that.

you will proberbly have to use the B44 front and rear main drive shafts too.

its easier to adjust and less prone to backing off from what I hear.

Chequered Flag Racing 27-07-2007 01:31 PM

B44 Slipper in a BJ4

Quote:

the information I have is that it 'will' fit the BJ4, but you might need to use some bearing caddys or something like that. You will proberbly have to use the B44 front and rear main drive shafts too.
probably be cheaper to by the B44 then :p

Chris Doughty 27-07-2007 01:35 PM

get Jimmy to snap a few pics, I think they are running them in their BJ4's out there.

Chequered Flag Racing 27-07-2007 02:07 PM

from Jimmy's report

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A bit more news:
The JConcepts guys like Cree, Barton, Pinisch and Drescher are running the new B44 slipper - or actually a hand made prototype of the slipper. Comments back were that it's genius and makes a huge difference to the car. Richard Cree was certainly eploiting the new slipper and getting some very good times.
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros...b44slipper.jpg

above pic by oople

_sleigh_ 23-08-2007 08:02 AM

Not sure if this view has been seen before, but here a picture of the underneath of a B44, showing the new composite rear end.

http://aedownloads.com/downloads/item_photos/9787.jpg

Kopite 23-08-2007 02:07 PM

is the release date still going to be the end of September? Or has anyone heard of some kind of 'delay'?

Wraggy 23-08-2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kopite (Post 57715)
is the release date still going to be the end of September? Or has anyone heard of some kind of 'delay'?

you getting one then stan ???

losixxx 23-08-2007 02:15 PM

cml are taking pre orders from shop's so release shouldnt be that far away. would have thought just after the worlds so 3rd or 4th week of sept is my bet.

xx4-nutter 23-08-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 52572)
from Jimmy's report

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 52572)




makes me laff how much a little peice or part like that can give faster times ? ....

baffles me :wtf: , its just anouther layout or way of a slipper clutch .... :D

jimmy 23-08-2007 02:24 PM

I think if you look at the slipper on the ZX5 KMRC conversion (which has a similar layout) it's a similar slipper to that from what I can see.. it just has more room for adjustment and can be tuned whilst the car is together, or even on the start line.

Chris Doughty 23-08-2007 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xx4-nutter (Post 57719)


makes me laff how much a little peice or part like that can give faster times ? ....

baffles me :wtf: , its just anouther layout or way of a slipper clutch .... :D

the benefit of this slipper is that it actually IS a slipper as oposed to the BJ4 'slipper' unit which is just a means to save the gears.

Lee Martin 23-08-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 57741)
the benefit of this slipper is that it actually IS a slipper as oposed to the BJ4 'slipper' unit which is just a means to save the gears.

spot on!

BradR 25-08-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 57741)
the benefit of this slipper is that it actually IS a slipper as oposed to the BJ4 'slipper' unit which is just a means to save the gears.

The new slipper is an improvement for ease of adjustment. It can be adjusted while in the car, and the larger spring makes the adjustment less sensitive.

However, there is no difference in how the two slippers function. Both assemblies use the same spur gear and slipper pads, which are compressed between two hard anodized aluminum plates. If both slippers are set correctly, they will perform the same.

Chequered Flag Racing 25-08-2007 04:33 PM

B44 slipper doesn't look much different to the above prototype

http://aedownloads.com/kit_photos/b44/ftb4414.500.jpg

andy05 27-08-2007 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradR (Post 58090)
The new slipper is an improvement for ease of adjustment. It can be adjusted while in the car, and the larger spring makes the adjustment less sensitive.

However, there is no difference in how the two slippers function. Both assemblies use the same spur gear and slipper pads, which are compressed between two hard anodized aluminum plates. If both slippers are set correctly, they will perform the same.


How much shorter is the front drive shaft please brad. Are the motor mounts the same size bearings will it fit straight in the bj we besides the drive shaft?

xx4-nutter 27-08-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 57741)
the benefit of this slipper is that it actually IS a slipper as oposed to the BJ4 'slipper' unit which is just a means to save the gears.


;) cheers chris

CDS MODELS 20-09-2007 07:23 AM

New updated delivery date is late october now:(

Chris Doughty 20-09-2007 07:45 AM

to help you with the wait, you can look at the exploded diagrams at the CML website...

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/pro...tId=0000002808

it might answer some questions that you have

rcracer 20-09-2007 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CDS MODELS (Post 60902)
New updated delivery date is late october now:(


:(:(:(:(

AndyM 23-09-2007 12:34 PM

so wot actually are the changes that will make the car faster/easier to drive than a BJ4 WE?? (apart from the slipper)

thanks

ryan 23-09-2007 02:33 PM

Rear kick up

matdodd 23-09-2007 09:47 PM

Doesn’t the BJ4 have kick up?

Richard Lowe 23-09-2007 09:55 PM

The chassis isn't angled up at the back like the B44, you can achieve the same effect on the suspention on the BJ4 by spacing the blocks up a bit. Granted you dont get the extra groung clearence at the back though.
I've tried it before, it worked really well at Tiverton a couple of years ago when it was really broken up, but everywhere else I've prefered the blocks flat onto the chassis.

Lee 23-09-2007 10:29 PM

This will alter the rear roll centre as well though?

Richard Lowe 23-09-2007 10:44 PM

Yeah it has a similar effect to increasing the angle of the toplink but more so, as you are also altering the angle of the wishbone for the same ride height as well as the relative distance between the upper and lower pivot's.
It also changes driveshaft scrub/plunge as it changes the angle of the wishbone relative to the driveshaft which is probably why it changes how the car goes over bumps on power.

WHITTLER555 24-09-2007 01:02 PM

Rich, you lost me at YEAH! LOL!

I like a bit of plunge angle!

Richard Lowe 24-09-2007 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 61489)
I like a bit of plunge angle!

Haha :D

Whittle translation :- higher blocks = more better over bumps and more worserer round corners :p

rcracer 24-09-2007 10:30 PM

So who has pre-orderd a B44 :confused:

KyoshoK 27-09-2007 10:04 PM

can anyone tell me if the B4 rims / wheels fit the b44??


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