You can all hope for more pics at the worlds... its only a few weeks off.
The car is awesome so far, but still in final development and testing phase. Weekends results speak volumes about the capabilities of the new car.
The xray tag team failed to stop, despite their best efforts. You guys only saw the redrc videos... they were at it all weekend, practice, qualifing and you saw finals. Lee did an awesome job.

Lee cars did look good. but I think it going tobe hard battle for him at the world's. Bruno coelho had a bit bad luck. In some corners had grip role and when the 2 crashed the marshal let lee go 1st instead at the same time.but as for the car it looked great carnt wait.

So they were deliberately taking out our Lee? Any one else involved? i.e. any other non Xray drivers

Its a shame these people weren't given any penalty's at such a Big Competition........or any competition .....

Bruno wasn't the only driver with grip roll, everyone had the same problem. Lee's car was on 2 wheels various times throughout the mains, however he just managed the car and slowed down a bit more to prevent grip roll.

everyone was contending with the grip roll. The 4wd front minipin tyres were the wrong choice for the new carpet. the carpet was super super grippy, but there was such little tyre wear, just used 1 set all day in each class.

The 2wd tyres cut staggers, were spot on, the yz2 was a dream to drive, no issues, but 4wd was manic.

4wd, I arsed about cutting pins and gluing sidewalls. ruined a set of rears with sidewall glue, and wasted my practice time in the process. Had to have EPA adjusted for so little lock that it was difficult to turn but the slightest extra bit of lock and i was over. bmax4iii just felt a pig to drive. All the other yokomo bmax4iii drivers had the same issues plus all others were contending with the same issues.

Don't get me wrong, the event is a spectacle not to be missed, and really fun racing at that European level, but i much preferred 2wd. I left Scotty Ernst with a set of Schumacher 4wd cut staggers to try on the carpet before it was dismantled. I expect they will change 4wd front tyres as mini pins were clearly wrong. we were cutting 6 rows of pins off the front tyres, dremelling them smooth, then coating the smoothed edge with superglue. Everyone had to do this, and they were still too much. tyre wear was pretty much non existent, my 2wd tyres are good for one or two more meetings use, depending on track surface.

The xray team all had 1 week testing at their hudy arena on their track, which has the exact same carpet. xray looked to be deliberately working as a pack to take Lee out, then let 3rd get through. They succeeded in first leg, and tried the same moves in the others.
I'll not buy another xray or hudy product, (remembering the cost of the year racing the xb4).

So will we se the xray xb2 and yokomo yz4 before the worlds i thought no prototypes are allowed at the worlds

Neal you are a star, no nonsense, love it.:thumbsup:

I tell it like it is. literally no one on the pits had a good word to say about the xray team. plenty had stories of cheating, deliberate race take outs, or just bad attitude. Not just directed towards yokomo, but also other team drivers also. anything to win. :thumbdown:

Back on topic, the yz4 looked very capable, not justin Lee's hands. There were five running at the event.

Thats pretty sinister after what happened to Wollanka at RHR, ridiculous he should even be competing at this point, hope the penalties are spot on in Japan!
Speaking of which, will it be web cast?

Lee

Prototypes are allowed at worlds. You won't see a production YZ4 before the worlds.

You would of thought they would of known better after being caught CHEATING at the Euros. May be we should all send them a email - [email protected]

Had some contact with Yokomo this week. There will be 2 versions:

YZ4
YZ4 Factory kit.

Price range? Unknown. My guess? YZ4 around 400€ and the Factory kit could be in the range from €500 to €550.

I saw it, I touched it, I like it!:thumbsup:
Feel free to check out Marc Rheinard and Panik Team Troisdorf on Facebook for some video footage of the YZ-4 on my home track.

I've seen the movies on your Facebook, mes. Looking good. Will have to come over for a round of NRW Cup next year. I was there like 2 years ago (if I remember correctly, with our local hero Leonard :p) at the old layout.

How much did you like the YZ4?:thumbsup: Some "new" stuff that other belt driven cars don't have?

It will be nice to meet you there! From what I saw it is a well designed buggy with tons of adjustment options, Neal's description is spot on. It will be interesting to see the finished product, they are about to make some changes to the prototype, and as I understood all Yokomo drivers participating at the worlds will get the new ride...
As I've been a die-hard Yokomo fan boy since the early 90s, I am biased. Commenting on how much I like it does not make any sense... :p

Early 90's.. I was still playing with plastic toy cars back then. I remember Yokomo from around 2000's. When I was 12. :p Started with Tamiya though.

Can't wait to see more YZ4 adjustments. It's all looking good. I guess winning at the EOS will give them a boost for the worlds as well. Only a couple of weeks left.

I was fourteen or fifteen when I first encountered a Works '91 that I could not afford back then. End of story... or its beginning?! :woot:

That would be ignored... Cheating/rule bending is from the top down. Word was they were OK with one being caught, as the others didn't (get caught).

They have a lot of money to sponsor races, so don't get sanctioned.

What cheating/rule bending did X-Ray do?

2 Versions mentioned here too.

http://l-m-racing.co.uk/products/ind...product_id=731

Wollanka was caught with sauced tyres at the Euros. But could we focus on the YZ-4 instead of the code of conduct of Team Xray?

(interesting thread on Team X-ray about lack of grip with XB4. Team don't seem to have shared their solution to the problem...)

Right - back to the YZ-4
I don't currently run a 4wd as there are very few at Batley so 2wd has more participation. Just wondering whether the YZ-4 will change that and therefore inspire me to add one to my ever increasing room full of cars.

I do like the thought of it as I used to prefer 4wd drive back when I raced in early 80s.
Wonder how many shared parts there will be with YZ-2?

There will be quite some shared parts in the rear. Front is different. I guess you can compare part compatibility on the same level as the B-Max 2 and B-Max 4. Maybe they share diffs, I don't know. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Can't wait to get a look at this Buggy. Let's just hope its not too expensive!

Expect prices around 400€ for the normal kit and up to €550 for the factory kit.

This is according to my latest info.

When I spoke to Lee he said it was all new but you could use the wishbones if needed but they are different!

I'm I the only one, that thinks that 500-600 is 1/8 scale prices, not 1/10?
Previously didn't notice it, as wasn't so interested in yokomo, but now already existing 1/10th 4wd are expensive for them, seems all others are giving 1/10th for far reasonable price.

My point would be that imho there should be initial kit with all needed hopups to have competitive buggy, and later on as car is being further developed release hopups.

Otherwise - why would one buy normal kit, if there is a lot to add to have kit as competitive as for team drivers...

Waiting for worlds to see it in action.

As the only other 4WD I would buy (D413) has only now dropped to under 400.- in Germany and includes crappy pop-off shock caps, and in view of my YZ-2's quality and box contents, I would say an estimated 400.- for the standard version and 550.- for the Factory/Worlds/Whatever Edition will not be cheap, but fair. The woman has been informed, and she's ok with it. ;)

wait a few more days and we will know a lot more :-) the release is comming :-)

Shops here posting

329 standard
449 works

Wow thats steep!!

Well the Bmax4III factory isnt a cheap car, its about the norm now sadly that 4wd is in the 400 bracket!
Depends on what is omitted for the std version, id be guessing alloy hubs and maybe some graphite decks?
Either way Iam tempted more and more to get one!

Lee

To be honest, prices are decent. Same as the B-Max4 III.

Yes, €550 is a lot for a factory kit, but knowing Yokomo, quality is top notch. So I don't expect a lot of problems there. I'd prefer to pay €550 for a top quality kit than 250 for a kit that has a lot more work and maintenance needed.

Let's go Yokomo! I don't know when prices will be up, but I guess it all will go fast once the worlds are done. :lol:

And TBF, if you factor in what Kyosho were asking for the ZX6, and additional geared diffs, Yokomo are pretty bang for buck where spec is concerned!
Car will be high spec in either format IMO, lots of alloy, lots of carbon, great dampers, and, its a Yokomo, always a plus haha!

Lee

Just want to see it now

All depends what you want and what difference you realistically think it'll make to your results.

If you have the funds, then get the YZ-4 and be happy. If not, and you're not a highly capable driver, then stick with the BMAX4iii until you can either afford the new release or you think it will make a real difference to your results.

The cream always rises to the top anyway.

Nothing to add! :)

when the bmax 4 iii came out I thought it already was competitive. Correct me if I'm wrong but naotos bmax 4 iii looked near stock... But it's naoto.

People would buy the normal kit because it's cheaper and good enough. I've never known anyone own the factory bmax 4iii

I do .....

If we are lucky, we will have some pics before the worlds. 55th All-Japan Model & Hobby Show starts on 25 September. :)

Guys when using schumacher wide stagvers in front, do you use inserts and do any modificactions to tires/disks?