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mikeyscott 24-05-2010 10:59 AM
Got an important meeting next weekend so I'll be having a good long look etc. May even just run the SX instead whilst some of the SV issues get resolved.

Albertini 24-05-2010 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 379747)
Noticed that people are putting grease on the gears (gear grease) could this also be causing probs?
Didn't grease mine and the gears have a fine black dust on them, assuming its from the shaved o-ring. Theres a picture in the quality issues thread.
Hopefully with a bit of threadlock or glue and new rings all will be well.

ian h 24-05-2010 02:49 PM
Another disaster whilst track testing today, the lay shaft gear completely stripped!!!!! The pins and o rings are still where they should be and the metal idler looks ok. Will post pics later. Can't work out what caused this, any ideas??????

slow bob 24-05-2010 03:32 PM
As the layshaft spun the pins moved out of the gear but still behind the o ring, snaged on the inside of the gearbox stripping the gear ???

then when the power stoped the pins are pushed back into the layshaft by the o ring >>???

is it totaly striped or just in one place :confused:

ian h 24-05-2010 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by slow bob (Post 379860)
As the layshaft spun the pins moved out of the gear but still behind the o ring, snaged on the inside of the gearbox stripping the gear ???

then when the power stoped the pins are pushed back into the layshaft by the o ring >>???

is it totaly striped or just in one place :confused:
The pins are held in using retaining compound, they have definately not moved. The layshaft gear is now smooth all the way round, so yes it is completely stripped.

mikeyscott 24-05-2010 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ian h (Post 379864)
The pins are held in using retaining compound, they have definately not moved. The layshaft gear is now smooth all the way round, so yes it is completely stripped.
Same as one of the pics from the EPR regional.. Mmm what now.

phil c 24-05-2010 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ian h (Post 379844)
Another disaster whilst track testing today, the lay shaft gear completely stripped!!!!! The pins and o rings are still where they should be and the metal idler looks ok. Will post pics later. Can't work out what caused this, any ideas??????
i read that some people were filing down the cogs to make the box smoother , did you do this ? if so did you maybe file to much off ?

sime46 24-05-2010 08:08 PM
Slipper too tight?

mikeyscott 24-05-2010 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sime46 (Post 380072)
Slipper too tight?
I have thought that too.

shark 24-05-2010 09:35 PM
You would think you should be able to run the slipper tight , the gear box should handle that !!

kwiksi 24-05-2010 09:52 PM
I lighty lubed my gears. No issues after a full race day with a 9.5.:thumbsup:

ian h 24-05-2010 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by phil c (Post 380058)
i read that some people were filing down the cogs to make the box smoother , did you do this ? if so did you maybe file to much off ?
No filing here. As for the slipper it seemed ok, slipping slightly under inital load.

ian h 24-05-2010 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ian h (Post 379844)
Another disaster whilst track testing today, the lay shaft gear completely stripped!!!!! The pins and o rings are still where they should be and the metal idler looks ok. Will post pics later. Can't work out what caused this, any ideas??????
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Sorry for the quality,best I could do at work with iphone

eichkay 25-05-2010 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kwiksi (Post 379080)
Anybody been having issues with the orings in the idler gears?
I got a 7/16 clip like Raul said as a precaution. Upon installing it I found that it was loose fitting and there was a gap at the open end that looked like the pin can still come out. The pins felt snug in there and the oring looked fine and didn't seem too soft so back on it went. I'm going to the hardware store and am gonna pick up some other orings. Maybe I can find some that aren't as soft? Don't find anything wrong with the current ones though.
I also found the 7/16" clip to big and put the o-ring back on .. but i after putting the car back together i thought it would have been smart to measure the oring area on the gear to get the correct size of clip needed.

ian h 25-05-2010 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by eichkay (Post 380169)
I also found the 7/16" clip to big and put the o-ring back on .. but i after putting the car back together i thought it would have been smart to measure the oring area on the gear to get the correct size of clip needed.
Just measured the groove on the one I took out, it is exactly 10mm or 0.400" which is actually in between 3/8" and & 7/16"(which is slightly over 11mm) so if you wanted to go this route 10mm metric circlip is the way to go.

Raul Garcia 27-05-2010 10:35 PM
Heres my new tranny. I like it alot.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...h_MAH01517.jpg

moth898 27-05-2010 11:10 PM
What did you change Raul?

Raul Garcia 27-05-2010 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 381151)
What did you change Raul?
New gears within the transmission, got them from Schumacher yesterday. Their customer service is AMAZING!...:thumbsup:

ian h 28-05-2010 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Raul Garcia (Post 381152)
New gears within the transmission, got them from Schumacher yesterday. Their customer service is AMAZING!...:thumbsup:
What happened to the original ones?

Raul Garcia 28-05-2010 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ian h (Post 381178)
What happened to the original ones?
I was told to use them..;)


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