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RogerM 14-11-2007 06:49 PM

I was told at the weekend that some people do use a thrust bearing and a lock nut.

Now this confused me as a thrust race is used to isolate the diff screw from the relative movement of the two diff halfs ..... on the BJ4WE the outdrives are keyed together so the relative movement is not really there. I think a big improvement would be a shouldered head on the bolt (to increase the frictional area) and a locking washer ...... that may well help stop it coming undone.

fastr 15-11-2007 12:59 AM

Well, that is just it......there is movement between the outdrives!
It is not much, but enough to losen the bolt......

Andy Moore 15-11-2007 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fastr (Post 70902)
Well, that is just it......there is movement between the outdrives!
It is not much, but enough to losen the bolt......

There is a little tolerance inbetween the outdrives, yes. Using "red" threadlock will help prevent the assembly from loosening.

fastr 15-11-2007 11:11 AM

I know I'm pigheaded, bud I still would like to know if anyone has any experience with the thrustbearing.
I think glueing things together isn't the answer.

Andy Moore 15-11-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fastr (Post 70930)
I know I'm pigheaded, bud I still would like to know if anyone has any experience with the thrustbearing.
I think glueing things together isn't the answer.

Thrust bearing? You mean assembling the two washers, with balls and grease in the middle, in place of the single washer? The moving compenents of the slipper dont involve that washer at all, so the thrust assembly would serve no purpose, and it may not even let the bolt reach the t-nut.

Lee 15-11-2007 06:00 PM

Why dont people just build it as the book says:confused:

chris68nufc 15-11-2007 08:14 PM

I have had a couple of goes but still backing off. Car is awesome but slipper is difficult to get right. I have now got some Associated blue threadlock to see if this sorts the problem out.Fingers crossed!

RogerM 15-11-2007 08:59 PM

I built mine with red thread lock and all has stayed tight ..... however I would really of appreciated being able to back it off a fraction at the weekend and didn't dare touch it trackside ... in the cold and wet!!!

If it's relative movement that is the problem that should be relatively easy to fix .... leave it with me!!!!

chris68nufc 15-11-2007 09:06 PM

RogerM. Where do you get Red threadlock from? What make? Is this better(stronger) than Blue associated?

RogerM 15-11-2007 09:38 PM

I got mine from ScrewFix!!!

The red stuff is meant to be more of a "permanent" bond than blue so yes, it is stronger.

fastr 15-11-2007 10:12 PM

Guys, please stop talking about the threadlock and try the thrustbearing (or two washers, with balls and grease in the middle)

OldTimer 15-11-2007 10:18 PM

Don't just use the thrust washer, we also tap the metal T nut and then add a grub screw which tightens upto the diff screw, this solves all your problems believe me ;)

matdodd 15-11-2007 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 71048)
Don't just use the thrust washer, we also tap the metal T nut and then add a grub screw which tightens upto the diff screw, this solves all your problems believe me ;)


Ye it does! I adjusted my slipper on sunday at kiddy for round 4 Roger & didnt even use threadlock when I put it back in :)

RogerM 15-11-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 71048)
Don't just use the thrust washer, we also tap the metal T nut and then add a grub screw which tightens upto the diff screw, this solves all your problems believe me ;)

The grub screw is the bit Ken left out ..... now I understand!!!!!!

Are you using the standard screw or do you need a slightly longer / shorter one?

4-40 grubs ..... I wonder where I can get them from???? Anybody know a Great Planes stockest near Cheltenham ....???? :D:D

Now where have I put the BJ4???? (seriously ... not seen it in two days .... must have been "tidied".

fastr 15-11-2007 11:04 PM

Sorry, but still nobody told me that they used a thrustbearing in the slipper......and realised that it's crap.
Please answer my question,...... anyone?

jordix 18-11-2007 05:10 PM

hi, while I wait for the parts from Jconcepts Im going to test one center differential, Im bored, yes....I have finished the assembly and I have to test it in the track.

fastr 18-11-2007 06:11 PM

Great!!! Good luck!
I'm curious how you did that.

Richard Lowe 18-11-2007 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fastr (Post 71562)
I'm curious how you did that.

Me too :eh?:

I'd keep your slipper assembly handy... ;)

RogerM 18-11-2007 09:24 PM

Guessing two short side diff halves, a diff rebuild kit and a kimbourgh style spur gear.

It might be interesting, might even help on very rutted tracks.

fastr 18-11-2007 09:44 PM

I tried to build a diff for my BJ with the parts I have (B4, B3, TC3, RC 10 worlds, RC 12LW) and still could not make it work.
The biggest problem was the size of the diff rings in combination with the outdrives
The problem you create by using a diff in the middle is that you don't have a slipper anymore.
So all the power will go thru the diff, which will slip.


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