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Gnarly Old Dog 25-09-2009 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=Jonesy;290914][quote=spenner;290721]The local track knowledge part of this thread is quite amusing!!!

There are a number of tracks in the UK where local people will go well, but is this there fault ?????

Kiddy
Stotfold
EPR
RHR
Southport

5 of the best tracks in the UK and all of them have drivers who know there way round pretty well. BUT.... what is stopping you and me going to these places to practice ???????

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Kiddy doesn't run club days anymore, so no practise there :p :p

EPR doesn't have any regular club meetings either - :p

Personally, any club who is willing to put in the effort, work and commitment to be at least on a par with our current national and EOS venues gets my vote - local knowledge is total rubbish IMO - if anything, the added pressure of self expectation can cause drivers to try too hard.

Besides, that's the point of a national series - it does even itself out over the season unless of course you've got the funds and time available to become 'local' at each one for a few weeks before each national.

Obviously, being a soft southern shandy drinker whose scared of everything North of Watford, I'd clearly like all six to be at EPR please :woot: - Then everyone would be called a local:thumbsup::thumbsup:

spenner 25-09-2009 07:53 PM

Does anywhere have club meetings nowadays ???? :thumbdown:

Winter series meetings etc... they all count as practice!!! :p

Lets admit it we want the best tracks to race on and sadly there will be people who go well round them... ANDY (shaking stevens) !!!

All i can say is i'm looking forward to next years series..

super__dan 26-09-2009 09:56 AM

Id like Bury Metro to be back on the calender, one of the best tracks around!

Si Coe 26-09-2009 10:25 AM

Truth is, even grass tracks marked out in a field can have a home advantage if you can be bothered. If I know roughly in the field where the track will be, I can go and test there (in an empty field) and dial my car for the basic surface even before the track is laid out.

The solution therefore is as mentioned to spread the tracks out around the country so most people are only ever local to one of them.


Of course this does lead to problems. Lots of people have mentioned Bury Metro, which is indeed a great track, but too near Southport. As a result, by alternating which you run at you can be 'local' to both and have 2 home track advantages. That means that one or other should get a national round, but not both.

matdodd 26-09-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 291405)
Truth is, even grass tracks marked out in a field can have a home advantage if you can be bothered. If I know roughly in the field where the track will be, I can go and test there (in an empty field) and dial my car for the basic surface even before the track is laid out.

The solution therefore is as mentioned to spread the tracks out around the country so most people are only ever local to one of them.


Of course this does lead to problems. Lots of people have mentioned Bury Metro, which is indeed a great track, but too near Southport. As a result, by alternating which you run at you can be 'local' to both and have 2 home track advantages. That means that one or other should get a national round, but not both.


I see what your saying but you get that anyway?
I'm sure there would be people who would go to Southport & Bury, but I'm also sure there are people who go to Stotfold &EPO so they would have 2 local tracks aswell!

I don't think theres an easy answer to the whole home track advantage thing but I do agree with some comments that the track layout should be changeable.
I know at say Southport on one of the days they run the back section but the rest of the track changes substantially & stotfold although all the elevation changes stay the same the layout is always different because of how they build there track.

We will just have to wait an see who puts in for a national & go from there! We will be there where ever they are anyway;)


The tracks id like to see :

Kiddy
Southport
RHR
Stotfold
Osfest
CML ?
Bury ?

sly 21-10-2009 07:25 PM

? anything new.

mikeyscott 30-11-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Goodall (Post 290602)
Completely agree with Matt - Southport was always one of those tracks that if you knew well you'd always do far better then someone trying to learn it in one or two short practise runs...... Same unfortunately seems to go for EPR, Stotfold, Kiddy, Bury Metro but equally these Multi-surface tracks provide such great racing no matter what the weather is whereas Grass tracks just turn to a complete slippery mud bath that's also dangerous for marshalling - Shame there aren't more options for racing under-cover really....

What about Clanfield - Would they be interested in a 1/10th National? No advantage to anyone but that track would be awesome for a 10th National - More like some of the past Euro's Dirt tracks that were always good!

If they'd loose the big car wrecking rocks!

burgie 30-11-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spenner (Post 291194)
Does anywhere have club meetings nowadays ???? :thumbdown:

Yes.

Southport have regular club meetings, infact, we run week-in, week-out at either our outdoor venue or the indoor venue. Without the club meetings there would not be a National venue.

mikeyscott 30-11-2009 01:38 PM

With some hard work we hope to get Titchfield on the map for 2010, certainly 2011


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