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Fredrik Emilsson 04-11-2009 08:38 AM

Iīve used this season. Yes, it fits the 511.

I have not compared it with the regular slipper, so I canīt give you any feedback. Will do when I get the chance (when our new track is ready;))

T4miy4 Guy 05-11-2009 11:36 PM

Just after some advice regarding the double slipper!

I have this fitted to my DB-01 and the front and rear diff`s are upgraded to 501 out drives with ceramic balls.

From a hard start off the line at full throttle my DB-01 pulls frantically to the right... is this the fact that the slipper is set wrong ie to lose or is it that one of my diff`s is to lose or to tight?

Any advice lads?

Cheers Andy

dimblum 06-11-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T4miy4 Guy (Post 306755)
Just after some advice regarding the double slipper!

I have this fitted to my DB-01 and the front and rear diff`s are upgraded to 501 out drives with ceramic balls.

From a hard start off the line at full throttle my DB-01 pulls frantically to the right... is this the fact that the slipper is set wrong ie to lose or is it that one of my diff`s is to lose or to tight?

Any advice lads?

Cheers Andy

The double slipper won't do this since it is a drivetrain part. Look to your diffs or your tires for the problem..

Your right wheels must be adding more traction than the left.. A problem with your diff could explain this.. A few causes that comes to mind are:

- One of the diff plates is slipping while the other is not
- The wrong grease or too much grease was used
- The diff screw has become bent

Your tires can also be at fault if they were glued uneven causing one of them to break free.. Uneven wear on the tires could do this as well - say if the left one was very worn while the right one still had good tread.

Check this stuff out and you might find your problem.

Alex H 06-11-2009 06:36 PM

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T4miy4 Guy 07-11-2009 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimblum (Post 307007)
The double slipper won't do this since it is a drivetrain part. Look to your diffs or your tires for the problem..

Your right wheels must be adding more traction than the left.. A problem with your diff could explain this.. A few causes that comes to mind are:

- One of the diff plates is slipping while the other is not
- The wrong grease or too much grease was used
- The diff screw has become bent

Your tires can also be at fault if they were glued uneven causing one of them to break free.. Uneven wear on the tires could do this as well - say if the left one was very worn while the right one still had good tread.

Check this stuff out and you might find your problem.

Thanks for the reply, i`ll let you know, think the rear diff is too loose..

Andy

bombman 07-11-2009 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T4miy4 Guy (Post 306755)
Just after some advice regarding the double slipper!

I have this fitted to my DB-01 and the front and rear diff`s are upgraded to 501 out drives with ceramic balls.

From a hard start off the line at full throttle my DB-01 pulls frantically to the right... is this the fact that the slipper is set wrong ie to lose or is it that one of my diff`s is to lose or to tight?

Any advice lads?

Cheers Andy

It most likely the arms height, check that the front arms are exactly in the same height.
Also, if one of the shocks lacking some oil it can cause this problem.

chrispattinson 19-02-2010 10:17 AM

Did anyone end up getting the double slipper / running it?
I do like the transmission to have a little bit of slip in it, and I keep wearing out slipper pads and pressure plates.
I think the problem is, that when the pads wear, the slipper spring stops applying pressure to the pressure plates, due to the step in the layshaft.
More shims against the bearing is probably the solution, does anyone else have issues with the slipper?

dimblum 19-02-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 346076)
Did anyone end up getting the double slipper / running it?
I do like the transmission to have a little bit of slip in it, and I keep wearing out slipper pads and pressure plates.
I think the problem is, that when the pads wear, the slipper spring stops applying pressure to the pressure plates, due to the step in the layshaft.
More shims against the bearing is probably the solution, does anyone else have issues with the slipper?

I have been using the single sipper (since I also run a center-one-way). I have not had any trouble with the slipper pads wearing down quickly; in fact I am still using the same pads after one year of club racing with a Novak 6.5T.

I am using the default Tamiya build and settings for the slipper clutch. I run my spring tension between 3-4mm (this is shown as a 3-4mm gap between the nylock nut and the end of the threaded layshaft assembly). This tension has always worked great, I'm just careful to ensure that the spring is perfectly centered so the tension is equal.

DCM 19-02-2010 08:52 PM

the pads don't wear, they glaze over, which need to then either be replaced or scraped.

I use the double slipper.

samd 19-02-2010 09:39 PM

Advantages of a double slipper over a standard type anyone??

94eg! 19-02-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samd (Post 346390)
Advantages of a double slipper over a standard type anyone??

Allows the front axle to slip independent of the rear axle. The theory is that this allows you to get back on power quicker than standard slipper. It also adds further protection to the drivetrain.

Say your landing on your rear wheels first. The impact will not transmit the shock to the front diff. And likewise, the rear diff does not have to accelerate the mass of the front axle. Pretty cool design actually...

DCM 19-02-2010 10:30 PM

it is on landings really, that you gain the advantage, it doesn't squirm as much under power off a jump.

RBX 20-02-2010 03:27 AM

Theres a thread in the kyosho forum about a new type of slipper for the lazer it seems to work the same way as the double slipper, but you can change the slipper pad compound to alter the slip amount between F & R.

artica 02-04-2010 08:06 AM

Any chance of the double slipper fitting in the ta05?
I'd like to get a chance at counter steering for Drift.
I've heard that the Yokomo D-max has a slipper clutch that
allows you to set the slippage differently, front to rear.
Let's say that if it does, would I be able to set it so the front slips much more than the rear?

sim 17-10-2011 05:42 PM

So what is the lowdown on the B4/DB01 pad combo? Which pad slips more, the Tamiya or the B4? Am I right in thinking I want the rear to slip more than the front? Thanks.


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