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Toonz 31-12-2007 02:44 AM

i did try that, but it didn't sit align at the edge with the spur....strange......

jimmy 31-12-2007 02:57 AM

AJ, I don't want to say it's better than X car - especially something I've not tried like the ZX5-SP. If you're talking about the original Lazer - well that car has been around for over 2 years so I'd not hesitate to say the Durga is a more modern car. They are quite different cars though - and drive quite differently, so some of what people will say about them is down to personal preference.
I don't mind saying the Durga is up there with the best when it has those few hop-ups. If I was (and I am) upgrading this car to make it as good as possible, I'd get a screw kit (steel, Ti, anything - I got the alloy/Ti one from Champ), one way (my personal preference), slipper (I actually like it to slip when accelerating to make my car very smooth). I'd be interested in shock towers but I will wait and see what else appears rather than get the 3Racing stuff.
CVD's would be nice if you can find some for a good price - the dogbones in the kit work well, but aren't as bullet proof and can easily get lost in a crash.
I have the 501X shocks - but Tamiya will bring out a 501X shock kit for the durga next month so you don't have to buy it all seperately.

They will have an entire hopped-up car out some time also I'm sure of it, just like they did with their other budget racers, like the TA05. And that would put it firmly alongside the 501X.

I was talking to paul tonight about him racing the two cars back to back so I can get his feedback and laptimes. Just need to find a 5.5 or 6.5 lrp motor so I can have the same electrics in both cars to make it even.

Toonz 31-12-2007 03:26 AM

jimmy, any advice on the pinion spur issue? i've posted a lineart pic on the previous page:)

A.J. Gee 31-12-2007 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 80669)
AJ, I don't want to say it's better than X car - especially something I've not tried like the ZX5-SP. If you're talking about the original Lazer - well that car has been around for over 2 years so I'd not hesitate to say the Durga is a more modern car. They are quite different cars though - and drive quite differently, so some of what people will say about them is down to personal preference.
I don't mind saying the Durga is up there with the best when it has those few hop-ups. If I was (and I am) upgrading this car to make it as good as possible, I'd get a screw kit (steel, Ti, anything - I got the alloy/Ti one from Champ), one way (my personal preference), slipper (I actually like it to slip when accelerating to make my car very smooth). I'd be interested in shock towers but I will wait and see what else appears rather than get the 3Racing stuff.
CVD's would be nice if you can find some for a good price - the dogbones in the kit work well, but aren't as bullet proof and can easily get lost in a crash.
I have the 501X shocks - but Tamiya will bring out a 501X shock kit for the durga next month so you don't have to buy it all seperately.

They will have an entire hopped-up car out some time also I'm sure of it, just like they did with their other budget racers, like the TA05. And that would put it firmly alongside the 501X.

I was talking to paul tonight about him racing the two cars back to back so I can get his feedback and laptimes. Just need to find a 5.5 or 6.5 lrp motor so I can have the same electrics in both cars to make it even.


Thanks as always for your knowledgeable insight Jimmy. You the man.

Eddie168 01-01-2008 02:51 AM

Hello everyone i've recently ordered a DB-01 from Champ RC and it will come in afew days can't wait and just wondering can anyone give me some tips on building this car? to make it run nice and smooth THX guys

Carlos69 01-01-2008 06:14 AM

Get a 3m tap to tap all the holes, and upgrade as u can afford, in order:Titanium screw set,Slipper clutch set, two sets of 8x5mm bearings for steering, front one way drive, steel cvd's front 1st, then maybe 3racing graphite shock towers-rear 1st, TRF501x shocks, pulley guide set+two 9x5 bearings..that's a good start.

sim 01-01-2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sim (Post 79680)
501X and DB01 owners,
How is the wear rate on your belts? I'm considering getting a Durga but I've seen a buddy with some pretty frayed belts after a few runs of his 501X, so that got me worried.

anyone?

bender 01-01-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sim (Post 80853)
anyone?

Can't speak for anyone else but I personally never had any trouble with the kit 501 belt setup, in terms of wear or slipping, and the bigger pulleys on the Durga is supposed to be better still.

scotoap 01-01-2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bender (Post 80854)
Can't speak for anyone else but I personally never had any trouble with the kit 501 belt setup, in terms of wear or slipping, and the bigger pulleys on the Durga is supposed to be better still.

I agree with you M8, never had trouble in the past year either:)

ralphee 01-01-2008 03:42 PM

Just a quick post, if you fit the oneway and dont build the front diff, you can use the left over bearings to at least half ballrace the steering bellcranks!

lee

Toonz 01-01-2008 06:24 PM

my...DB01:D PS16...optimus prime blue...:p

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5937/durga2lb6.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7306/durga1lv6.jpg

wayneski 01-01-2008 07:38 PM

lookin good toonz

A.J. Gee 02-01-2008 02:42 AM

Im thinking about purchasing the Mamba max brushless system for my Durga. Does anyone recommend this system? The only reason i ask, is because with all the brushless systems out now, its becoming more difficult to make a choice. Pros and cons on the mamba max are much appreciated. Thanks.


A.J.

sim 02-01-2008 04:26 AM

bender and scotoap,
Thanks. Sounds good. I shall not be able to resist the buggy for long then. Our LHS is hosting the Tamiya Asia Cup finals this year and we will have the buggy class running again for that. Eligible chassis are DF-03 and DB-01. I might turn my DF-03 back Tamiya-legal or get the DB-01. Think the DF-03 might be a little faster with the controlled motor though (Tamiya Sports Tuned).

scotoap 02-01-2008 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sim (Post 81027)
bender and scotoap,
Thanks. Sounds good. I shall not be able to resist the buggy for long then. Our LHS is hosting the Tamiya Asia Cup finals this year and we will have the buggy class running again for that. Eligible chassis are DF-03 and DB-01. I might turn my DF-03 back Tamiya-legal or get the DB-01. Think the DF-03 might be a little faster with the controlled motor though (Tamiya Sports Tuned).

Hi sim, my buddies son came 2nd in that series for the touring cars last year and will be back in his homeland Scotland by the end of January from the Philipines.:)
Not bad for a 7 year old boy I think, what do you say?
He did spend a year in the Tamiya Racing Drivers School though (previous year).:cool:
His dad and he will be trying buggies for fun initially when they get settled in back here.:rolleyes::)

drinternat 02-01-2008 12:38 PM

Looks good Toonz. That's what mine should have looked like (if i could paint)

sosidge 02-01-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamiya Slave (Post 81023)
Im thinking about purchasing the Mamba max brushless system for my Durga. Does anyone recommend this system? The only reason i ask, is because with all the brushless systems out now, its becoming more difficult to make a choice. Pros and cons on the mamba max are much appreciated. Thanks.


A.J.

Get a sensored system eg LRP/Nosram/Novak.

Sensorless systems like the Mamba "cog" (stutter when the electronics miss the position of the rotor). It is an unavoidable aspect of the motor design. OK for bashing, but it will cost you in a race.

sosidge 02-01-2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toonz (Post 80672)
jimmy, any advice on the pinion spur issue? i've posted a lineart pic on the previous page:)

You seem to have sufficient gear mesh according to your diagram so I wouldn't worry.

Normal short-boss pinions (the Tamiyas are medium-boss) fit better when fitted backwards in the Durga.

sim 03-01-2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotoap (Post 81028)
Hi sim, my buddies son came 2nd in that series for the touring cars last year and will be back in his homeland Scotland by the end of January from the Philipines.:)
Not bad for a 7 year old boy I think, what do you say?
He did spend a year in the Tamiya Racing Drivers School though (previous year).:cool:
His dad and he will be trying buggies for fun initially when they get settled in back here.:rolleyes::)

Wow. 2nd in touring for a 7 year old is awesome! My son is 5 months old now, so I think I better start him up soon. Haha. Never heard of the Tamiya Racing Drivers School though. I don't think we have that here in Malaysia.

Toonz 03-01-2008 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drinternat (Post 81055)
Looks good Toonz. That's what mine should have looked like (if i could paint)

thanks :) took me a long time to get the blue evenly sprayed....masking the window is a pain in the A**! :wtf:


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