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celticpanman 15-06-2012 10:37 PM

Hi David. It is not as easy and as clear cut as that

h0m3sy 15-06-2012 10:43 PM

I'm afraid it may be too late in any case Graham as most 1/10th guys have moved or are moving on now. The DMCC could have been the number 1 off road club in all Ireland, sadly I think that is a long way off now. All the best with Griffeen Valley, sounds like some good racing you guys are having.

Meangombine 16-06-2012 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celticpanman (Post 665104)
Hi David. It is not as easy and as clear cut as that

We all love a cliffhanger but when is part 2???

You are a naught fellow to tease us so......
Elaborate dear sir so that the common peasant may begin to comprehend the complexity of the Predicament faced by the valiant committee

ian h 16-06-2012 11:53 AM

I'll tidy up this thread later chaps due to loads of complaints!

celticpanman 16-06-2012 12:02 PM

Thanks Ian

av4625 16-06-2012 01:45 PM

U's have deffinately done something to annoy someone?

Meath77 16-06-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h0m3sy (Post 663385)
Official Membership List
Written by RCCAOI Secretary
Last Updated Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:30


1 Colin Whelan
2 Derek McCloskey
3 William White
4 David Home
5 Jonathan Dunn
6 Stephen Hill
7 Lee McGuire
8 Wayne McGuire
9 Denis Farrell
10 Andrew Rennick
11 John Dungan
12 Nigel Dungan
13 Conor Reilly
14 Mick Bolger
15 Dave Bolger
16 Tony Kavanagh
17 Karl Rankin
18 Raymond power
19 Mark Penney
20 Ross McCullough
21 Keith Harris
22 Aaran Yeates
23 Kevin White
24 Ivan Thompson
25 Alan Thompson
26 Niall Cromie
27 Micheal O Leary
28 Ian Hunter
29 Aaron Vance

10 drivers out of all these names turned up yesterday, I know I wasn't there myself, due to the fact I now race 1/8e. In fact this was the main reason I gave up on 1/10 buggys, no support. Where was everyone yesterday??? I feel so sorry for the guys who go to the trouble of organising these events, only to have 10 or even less drivers turn up.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

Some of us have lives outside rc racing. I'll get a note from my mum next time I miss an event. ;)

wacattack 17-06-2012 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meath77 (Post 665420)
Some of us have lives outside rc racing. I'll get a note from my mum next time I miss an event. ;)

Quite possibly one of the most selfish posts I've seen. If you book into a meeting and cannot attend for whatever reason, at least have the common decency to let the organisers know. As has been said, a lot of people put a lot of time and effort into organising meetings, many of whom don't even race. You need to give a bit of courtesy and gratitude to them as without them, you wouldn't be able to race!

ian h 17-06-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 665454)
Quite possibly one of the most selfish posts I've seen. If you book into a meeting and cannot attend for whatever reason, at least have the common decency to let the organisers know. As has been said, a lot of people put a lot of time and effort into organising meetings, many of whom don't even race. You need to give a bit of courtesy and gratitude to them as without them, you wouldn't be able to race!

Just to clarify something here, the list is only a list of registered association members and not a pre entered list of competitors for a specific event. I am pretty sure that not all on the list actually registered for the event but only those on the list could register.

av4625 17-06-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meath77 (Post 665420)
Some of us have lives outside rc racing. I'll get a note from my mum next time I miss an event. ;)

Its looking like u will need the note from ur mum dude :lol: i didnt think that was selfish if people cant make it for watever reason there is nothing u can do about it,

h0m3sy 17-06-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by av4625 (Post 665539)
Its looking like u will need the note from ur mum dude :lol: i didnt think that was selfish if people cant make it for watever reason there is nothing u can do about it,

Your missing the point Aaron

h0m3sy 17-06-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meath77 (Post 665420)
Some of us have lives outside rc racing. I'll get a note from my mum next time I miss an event. ;)

We all have lives outside of RC, just seems to be every time there is a RCCAOI/BRCA round North of the border it's the same 3 or 4 guys from the South that travel up. Why is this? The support the guys from the North gave the South over the last 12-18 months has been unwaivering, yet we have 1 race meeting up here on 1 weekend out of a whole year and 4 guys make the effort? Is it any wonder a lot of people are turning their backs on 1/10 buggy racing now. Some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.

av4625 17-06-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h0m3sy (Post 665656)
We all have lives outside of RC, just seems to be every time there is a RCCAOI/BRCA round North of the border it's the same 3 or 4 guys from the South that travel up. Why is this? The support the guys from the North gave the South over the last 12-18 months has been unwaivering, yet we have 1 race meeting up here on 1 weekend out of a whole year and 4 guys make the effort? Is it any wonder a lot of people are turning their backs on 1/10 buggy racing now. Some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.

i do agree david that nobody bothers their head coming up but that wacattack guy took a bit of a psyco lik lol :woot:

h0m3sy 17-06-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by av4625 (Post 665676)
i do agree david that nobody bothers their head coming up but that wacattack guy took a bit of a psyco lik lol :woot:

LOL...The Beastie Boy lyrics from meangombine must be my favourite comment of all time :lol::lol::lol:

av4625 17-06-2012 08:27 PM

lol :thumbsup:

Meangombine 17-06-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h0m3sy (Post 665692)
LOL...The Beastie Boy lyrics from meangombine must be my favourite comment of all time :lol::lol::lol:

" you'll shut me down with a push of your button?". And they did :thumbdown:
The silence on here from certain people is deafening, and tells its own story

celticpanman 04-07-2012 07:41 AM

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kartstuffer 31-07-2012 12:35 PM

Round 3 in Navan next week .Who is going?????

Legacy555 31-07-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartstuffer (Post 679774)
Round 3 in Navan next week .Who is going?????

ME!!!!! :thumbsup:

blade 31-07-2012 06:36 PM

count me in

ian h 31-07-2012 09:01 PM

Me, looking forward to it.

Rayzerp 01-08-2012 05:50 AM

Me too :thumbsup:

Sv1keith 01-08-2012 08:25 PM

I shall be there

Sv1keith 01-08-2012 08:34 PM

Has round 4 being confirmed yet

MiCk B. 02-08-2012 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sv1keith (Post 680333)
Has round 4 being confirmed yet

Round 4 will be run in Lucan.

MiCk B. :-)

dmcracing 07-08-2012 01:17 PM

*
R.C.C.A.O.I. 1/10th Electric Offroad National Series 2012 – Round 3
Sunday 12th August 2012 at Navan Nitro Nuts.

Details in Brief;
Location: Navan Nitro Nuts - http://www.nnn.ie – Off the R161, Navan, Co. Meath
Google maps ref; 53.623174,-6.68694
Heats will be seeded in Championship order.
Open class heats will not be seeded.

Event Format:
4 rounds of qualifying – BRCA Round-by-Round Points System
3 Finals with best two scores added to count.

Heat order:
Heat #1 - 2wd Clubman "B"
Heat #2 - 2wd Modified "B"
Heat #3 - 2wd Modified "A"
Heat #4 - 2wd Clubman "A"
Heat #5 - Open "A"
Heat #6 - 4wd Modified "B"/4wd Clubman "A"
Heat #7 - 4wd Modified "A"

Booking in:
All competitors, from all classes, must book in when instructed to do so on the morning of the event.
Booking in closes at 1000hrs

Timetable:
Round length: approx 70 minutes (min. 1 hour)
Doors open - 0830hrs
Track open - 0915hrs
Track closed - 1015hrs
Drivers briefing - 1020hrs
Round 1 - 1045hrs
Round 2 - 1155hrs
Round 3 - 1305hrs
Round 4 - 1415hrs
Finals 1 - 1525hrs
Finals 2 - 1635 hrs
Finals 3 - 1745hrs
Meeting closed - 1835hrs

Race Officials:
Will be announced at drivers briefing

Venue information;
There is a limited amount of mains power at the venue – it is recommended that anyone with a generator should bring it.
Access to mains power is not guaranteed.
There is toilets in the main footballers clubhouse, and compressed air on site.Chip wagon will there from 12pm.
*

Legacy555 08-08-2012 11:24 AM

Hi all,

Delighted to hear that so many of you are planning to attend the RCCAOI National in Navan, best of luck and see you on Sunday :thumbsup:

Anyone wishing to lend a hand with some final track preparation work - there is a work party meeting between 11am and 2pm on Saturday.... but just to remind you that the track is closed all this week to registered competitors.

Could Mark Penney wrap up the 2wd Modified Championship this Sunday :confused:

Best of luck to all

MiCk B. 08-08-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legacy555 (Post 682518)
.... but just to remind you that the track is closed all this week to registered competitors.

Very confused by this. (I'm sure I am not the only one.)

This is the first time it has been stated the track is closed to competitors.

Surely for this to be official, the membership must be informed by the RCCAOI section chairman. At the moment it's just a post on a forum.

This didn't happen at the other rounds.
Why can it happen now?

Is this something that is stated in the rules. I don't have the time to read the rules. But as a very long time member of the RCCAOI and holding various committee position in that time. This is the first time I every heard of this being discussed for 1/10 off-road.

It would be helpful for all concerned if the section chairman could show where in the rules it allows for this.



MiCk B. :-)

Legacy555 08-08-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCk B. (Post 682536)
Very confused by this. (I'm sure I am not the only one.)

This is the first time it has been stated the track is closed to competitors.

Surely for this to be official, the membership must be informed by the RCCAOI section chairman. At the moment it's just a post on a forum.

This didn't happen at the other rounds.
Why can it happen now?

Is this something that is stated in the rules. I don't have the time to read the rules. But as a very long time member of the RCCAOI and holding various committee position in that time. This is the first time I every heard of this being discussed for 1/10 off-road.

It would be helpful for all concerned if the section chairman could show where in the rules it allows for this.



MiCk B. :-)

Hi Mick,

RCCAOI section rules would only apply to hosted meetings.
Why would the RCCAOI rules ever apply to clubs when no meeting is being held?
Regards,

Will

P.S. - Please see http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=24 you'll note that this was done last year. Also, re: Round 1 of this year, the track was being built/modified on the week up to the round, so was closed by default. And the Ecos Centre in Ballymena for Round 2 is closed to racers every week...... so nothing new here.
I hope you enjoy racing on Sunday and are a participant in restoring enjoyable competition in our sport.

MiCk B. 08-08-2012 02:13 PM

Will,

You are still avoiding the many issues.

Navan: You are the one stating that the track in Navan is off limits.
As I've already asked if this is official then it should be sent out to the membership by the official representative, the RCCAOI 1/10 scale section chairman.
You may not be aware but not every one reads OOple.com (shocking I know.)

Has the Navan club been informed that people have been banned / prevented from using their track?

The post you linked to about the round last year in Lucan.
How do you close off a public park?
A rule that cannot be enforced is not a rule.
(How was this enforced? What proof was there that no-one used the track.)

This year, Round 1, did this happen. Any reference to where the DMCC stated the the track / venue would be closed the week before the national.
Are you 100% there was no regular Thursday night practice evening, the week before the national?
(Again how was this enforced / policed.)

The year, Round 2, the club only has access to the track on pre-definded dates. So the track was not specifically 'off-limits' due to the national round. There was no access to the track regardless of what was happening at the week-end.

Really this is a matter for the section chairman to answer. The questions raised need to be answered by an actual official.

MiCk B. :-)

Legacy555 08-08-2012 02:34 PM

Hi Mick,

Didn't intend to avoid your questions, and your right I'm not an elected official, just one member trying to help a confused other member - please see detailed answers to questions below

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCk B. (Post 682536)
Very confused by this. (I'm sure I am not the only one.)

This is the first time it has been stated the track is closed to competitors.
As track access is only permitted for insurance reasons to NNN members, this would only effect racers that are NNN members and RCCAOI members. See 'Navan Electric Racing' post or http://rccaoi.com/tenthoffroad/41-te...track-day.html also
Surely for this to be official, the membership must be informed by the RCCAOI section chairman. At the moment it's just a post on a forum. SEE RCCAOI.com - 2/8/12, Announcement made. http://rccaoi.com/tenthoffroad/41-te...track-day.html
As Navan is only open during the week to NNN members it would be unfair to allow practice for some RCCAOI competitors and not for others on the lead up to the event. Also, work being carried out on the track may result in people wanting to practice being turned away. NNN closed the track with the Section Reps agreement.

This didn't happen at the other rounds. Not Correct. Yes it did.
Why can it happen now?

Is this something that is stated in the rules. I don't have the time to read the rules. But as a very long time member of the RCCAOI and holding various committee position in that time. This is the first time I every heard of this being discussed for 1/10 off-road. Doesn't require ruling. RCCAOI rules are applicable to RCCAOI meetings only. Not practice or any other day at the club except RCCAOI meetings.

It would be helpful for all concerned if the section chairman could show where in the rules it allows for this. He may do.

MiCk B. :-)

Hope this helps Mick. If you are still confused we'll go through it all on Friday when I call over to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCk B. (Post 682579)
Will,

You are still avoiding the many issues.

Navan: You are the one stating that the track in Navan is off limits. Not Correct - As only NNN members can access the track - see rccaoi.com (2/8/12 post) - All RCCAOI section members who are NNN members have been informed. http://rccaoi.com/tenthoffroad/41-te...track-day.html
As I've already asked if this is official then it should be sent out to the membership by the official representative, the RCCAOI 1/10 scale section chairman.
You may not be aware but not every one reads OOple.com (shocking I know.)

Has the Navan club been informed that people have been banned / prevented from using their track? It's NNN policy

The post you linked to about the round last year in Lucan.
How do you close off a public park? Not closing off the public park, just stopping people from practicing on the track.
A rule that cannot be enforced is not a rule.
(How was this enforced? What proof was there that no-one used the track.) Several random visits by committee members at key time on the lead up to the event.

This year, Round 1, did this happen. Any reference to where the DMCC stated the the track / venue would be closed the week before the national.
Are you 100% there was no regular Thursday night practice evening, the week before the national?
(Again how was this enforced / policed.)
Thursday night racing did not take place as the track was being finished. If there is no track how can you practice?

The year, Round 2, the club only has access to the track on pre-definded dates. So the track was not specifically 'off-limits' due to the national round. There was no access to the track regardless of what was happening at the week-end.

Really this is a matter for the section chairman to answer. The questions raised need to be answered by an actual official.

MiCk B. :-)


MiCk B. 08-08-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legacy555 (Post 682584)
Hi Mick,

Didn't intend to avoid your questions, and your right I'm not an elected official, just one member trying to help a confused other member - please see detailed answers to questions below



Hope this helps Mick. If you are still confused we'll go through it all on Friday when I call over to you.

Will,

What you've posted has only added to the confusion, it seams the information you are supplying is changing / different each time.

I fail to see how you talking at me will solve anything.

As I have stated a number of time and you have ignored each and every time. It is the RCCAOI section chairman that should be supplying this information to the membership.

MiCk B. :-)

Legacy555 08-08-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCk B. (Post 682597)
Will,

What you've posted has only added to the confusion, it seams the information you are supplying is changing / different each time.

I fail to see how you talking at me will solve anything.

As I have stated a number of time and you have ignored each and every time. It is the RCCAOI section chairman that should be supplying this information to the membership.

MiCk B. :-)

Have you emailed him?

tony6187 08-08-2012 04:14 PM

hi will,this post http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=24 from last year was not by the direction of the rccaoi rep(myself)and could not be enforced by the rccaoi.i took it that this was posted and the threat of punishment where coming from the dmcc of which you where an official.you are not an official of the rccaoi and just to clarify are you an official of the navan club?the tone of your posts would indicate that you are.
there was practice during the week leading up to the first round in the naul a fact you are aware of.no problem with the nnn policy but you should get your facts right or leave the posting of information to the elected officals

Legacy555 10-08-2012 08:44 AM

Looks like a few showers in the morning, but a dry afternoon for the national...

http://www.accuweather.com/en/ie/nav...210586?hour=57

Rayzerp 10-08-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legacy555 (Post 683129)
Looks like a few showers in the morning, but a dry afternoon for the national...

http://www.accuweather.com/en/ie/nav...210586?hour=57

Hopefully....track seemed to dry very quick last sunday after the shower

blade 10-08-2012 08:02 PM

best of luck to everyone this weekend hopefully weather will hold up

av4625 10-08-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony6187 (Post 682616)
there was practice during the week leading up to the first round in the naul a fact you are aware of.

Not every one heard of this before the nat? :o

Mugenextreme 11-08-2012 12:51 AM

good luck to everyone on Sunday. I wont be out as i have something else on but i hope you lads get a great day for racing.


Cougar 2wd For Sale

kartstuffer 13-08-2012 09:56 AM

Been there ,done that , dont fancy it again !


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