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c0sie 07-01-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 82527)
It's not up to you to measure your cells and decide if they are legal or not. The EB measure the samples or cells they get sent for homologation and say if they go on the list or not.

Simple.

Wait for the list.

G

Nice helpful reply.

I dont typo Chris wants to write his own set of rules for cells..I think he was just curious :rolleyes:

Northy 07-01-2008 09:11 PM

It is helpful, they are facts. How the cells are measured is in the rule book and has already been posted earlier in this thread.

G

c0sie 07-01-2008 09:13 PM

Wow....thanks...
:yawn:

Chris Green 07-01-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 82583)
It is helpful, they are facts. How the cells are measured is in the rule book and has already been posted earlier in this thread.

G

I have read the section on the brca website, and also this thread, and I am fully aware of what dimension limits the cells need to fit within. As far as I can see, it doesn't explain how they are measured. (its not really important to be honest!)

However, I was only curious as to how they are measured. Its not important, I was just wondering. :)

Cockerill 07-01-2008 09:31 PM

Unless you think you might be making European/World A finals I really wouldn't worry about how the cells are measured as you won't need to be doing it. So long as they are on the list then i'm sure you will be fine.

I'm sure the person doing the measuring is doing the best job possible, unless there is an offical sub C cell measurer somewhere in the world that i don't know about.

Northy 07-01-2008 09:32 PM

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...4&postcount=60

G

Chris Green 07-01-2008 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockerill (Post 82591)
Unless you think you might be making European/World A finals I really wouldn't worry about how the cells are measured as you won't need to be doing it. So long as they are on the list then i'm sure you will be fine.

I'm sure the person doing the measuring is doing the best job possible, unless there is an offical sub C cell measurer somewhere in the world that i don't know about.

Don't worry, I'm not concerned about how they are measured. I was going to check the length of one of my IB's with my vernier's, then thought its not such a good idea!
I am also not questioning to competency of whoever measures the cells, I have no reason to doubt anything.

I need to buy new cells for 2008, so I will be waiting for the list before I buy anything. I'm happy to wait for the list, and when its published, I won't be asking any questions about it either.


Thanks Northy, that was the post I was referring to. I suppose it does kind of explain the conditions the cells are measured under, it doesn't mention what instrument will be used, which is basically what I was asking.

Anyway, it really doesn't matter does it. Sorry. :)

Northy 07-01-2008 09:49 PM

No it's ok. I'm sorry if my temper seems short, but we can't do anything ranting on an internet forum, we just need to wait.

If I was measuring cells I would:

Get a piece of something thin that doesn't conduct electricity (Lexan maybe), put that on one end of the cell, measure with the verniers, and subtract the thickness of the insulator..... or

If the verniers are digital, while measuring the thickness of the insulator zero the reading, then measure the cell and insulator. The reading will the the size of the cell.

But thats just me :D

G

DanW 07-01-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Green (Post 82519)
Just wondering, how do you measure the length of a cell accurately? surely a micrometer or verner caliper gauge will be required? if you put these accross the terminals on the cell, won't it short the cell out?

Plastic and resin based verniers, micrometers and height gauges are widely available. Or could use conventional steel instruments with a pre gauged nylon slip block for insulation.

I don't actually know what method the BRCA guys use to gauge cells.

MattW 07-01-2008 09:56 PM

I can assure you IB's are quite long!! I have some here that have been matched, but not soldered to. I measured one last week - and let's just say it doesn't fall within the 43mm spec.

Chris Green 07-01-2008 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanW (Post 82611)
Plastic and resin based verniers, micrometers and height gauges are widely available. Or could use conventional steel instruments with a pre gauged nylon slip block for insulation.

I don't actually know what method the BRCA guys use to gauge cells.

ahh, should have thought about that. We've got a height gauge at work, on a granite table. Cheers.

Thanks G. i suppose I could do that too. I can understand why you'd have a short temper. but I can assure you i wasn't ranting.

Matt, I'm not sure exactly how long they are, but I know I keep getting mine stuck in my B4! haha.

IceMike 07-01-2008 10:31 PM

Ok this might be sumat relaly stupid but i have just been reading all the rules on the brca for the electronics. and i read that the maximum prices for brushless motors that is legal is £80. and ive seen that the new novak 3.5 is £85 at most reatailers but im sure ppl will be using this motor this coming year if they can. doesnt that make it illegal anyways????

Chrislong 07-01-2008 10:34 PM

3.5R is a bit nuts, unlikely to be used, don't fret.

IceMike 07-01-2008 10:37 PM

on a big track such as oswestry it might :P but surely still it makes it illegal does it not???

Mike Hudson 07-01-2008 10:38 PM

one of my pack thats a different make to the rest used to be soooo stiff in my b4! nearly needed a hammer to bang them out after the race:o me thinks that 1 is too wide haha not too fussed i need new cells anyway and can understand why the brca are enforcing the rule that they put in before :D

Northy 07-01-2008 10:39 PM

Does it refer to the RRP? I guess it's a bit like petrol, garages can charge as much as people are willing to pay :mad:

G

IceMike 07-01-2008 10:41 PM

it says the price as of the 1st of jan. i dont know wot the rrp is anyways. stupid american site only saying dollars

Chrislong 07-01-2008 10:51 PM

3.5R is likely to be more useful in snorers, not buggy. Its on RRP.

sosidge 08-01-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceMike (Post 82646)
it says the price as of the 1st of jan. i dont know wot the rrp is anyways. stupid american site only saying dollars

Stupid American sites have nothing to do with BRCA price limits (BRITISH Radio Car Association).

Check the RRP from CML distribution. If they are RRPing them at over £80 then they will not be legal.

andy05 09-01-2008 10:41 PM

Anyone seen these might be the way to go:cool:
http://www.teamorion.com/news/ca40/newsid/209
Lets wait and see if they where submited in time!

Mike Hudson 10-01-2008 12:13 AM

These are meant to be orions answer to the max cell size width and should have been submitted :D can't wait to see the new list of legal battries as i havn't bought any for a LONG time and will be getting several nice new sets and pro trak charger :p

RogerM 10-01-2008 07:37 AM

I think that the BRCA EB have made a fairly good decission with the 2008 rule. Those people not entering the nationals can get a further year out of their cells at regonals, also those guys are far less likely to be tempted to risk charging at 1,000,000 Amps to get the last 0.00000000001% out of their cells so the risk of failure is reduced (still worth reminding people about that regularly though!!!).
The guys racing nationals will have to have '08 legal cells but then if your willing to drive the length and bredth of the country to do them the cost of new cells will soon be over shaddowed by the greedy robbing gits setting the fuel taxes!! Also if your taking the nationals seriously your probably intent on having the latest greatest equipment anyway so less of a shock to the system.

I do hope we'll see the homologation list soon though, sure Paul won't keep us waiting a day longer than necessary.


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