You're missing the point Mr C, it won't benefit the lower placed drivers at all, at best they'll improve one final above their normal sort of placings but why should one of the top drivers qualify really low down then get yet another set of chances to get up the list, that's not fair surely? If you think by having bump ups the average driver will get more run time you're most certainly wrong i'm afraid :)

Sod bump ups, and sod watching the same ol' top 3 walk away with the big pots.

Long live the mid-pack racer :D lol

#powertothepeople!

I'm with the no bump ups.

Qualify and then race in the order you qualify. The people who are in constantly in the A are there for a reason.

Alec races most weekends and at least twice weekly, he's faster than me then and thats just the way it is. (I can always sabotage his car in the pits).

He you go Matt we'll bump you up a couple of finals so you can finish last, or run you final, win it and get a trophy :thumbsup:

Cris - bump up final finals for 1/10th off road at major competitions was the normal format way back in the early 80's... so no, its not a nitro thing.

Lipos these days give the opportunity to open door to new experiences, why not embrace them you might like it.

Alex - in the nicest possible way, your being ever so short sighted. Any A final at any RC event should and generally is exciting. However the other finals in the electric classes, really dont come close in terms of a spectacle to that said A final. Ok, so you have had a go and you dont like it, thats your opinion. My opinion is, your wrong :)

You see that making the A final is your days target.. not winning the event. With no one directly into an A final, the best qualifying goal would be to make the semi final, which in a 2 sided bump format would be 16 racers (8 in each semi)... so the chances of making the maximum qualifying position is increased. Yes, i agree that if you break in the semi, you dont make the ultimate goal of being in the main, but equally, break in the main and you wont win either. Racing should be racing and getting it over the line in one bit is part of racing.

Its a different format that would be fun and during the finals, would create an interest in every single final for all attendees (well maybe not my misses).

As for charging, 2 packs of lipos would cover it no problem. You race and then bump, you put that pack on charge and put in another pack, while the other side of the format runs. You then race and bump again. At this point you swap batteries again. The first pack would have been on charge for around 15 minutes minimum, which would have pumped in 1000mah at least. I would think you could do 4-5 finals like that before a pack would run flat.

I do like the idea that I will be able to race in the final I qualified for.
So I don't think the idea of bump up is a good idea, my personal opinion. Perhaps I would feel different if I had the opportunity to race that format.
I do also think that the way a person drives in a bump up system may be different to qualifying and finals. It may promote a bonsai, win it or bin it type of driving.
I think the best format is 2 rounds of practise, 4 qual, and 3 finals for all.

bump up finals are awesome :thumbsup:
it gives you a chance to finish way higher up than you qualified if you can keep it together & finish high enough in your final/s
you get to race against faster drivers everytime you bump & often the tussle for the last bump up spot will have some spectacular battles :thumbsup:
often way more entertaining than just watching the leader cruise around once he's made a gap.

yeah i guess if it was 3 finals for all then you may get more track time but if you bump up twice you equal that :)

it certainly works in Nitro & like Jon says it shouldn't be a problem with todays cells & chargers.

its a big meeting. double sided bump up finals are all about the big meetings :thumbsup:

John - you're right, I had a go at the two electric meetings that ran this format as a trial, and you're also right, I didn't like it. Both meetings ran well and i'm sure some people enjoyed it BUT both clubs never ran the format again so it certainly wasn't just me who had a go and didn't like it :)
All the races at any meeting are just as important to the people that are in them, you set your own goals and of course whatever final i'm in i'd want to try for the win but even at your nitro meetings I doubt whether the first few finals get the same interest as the semi's or the main unless one of the "names" has had a bad day and not qualified very well. ;)

July 29th to 31st.

Venue & marquee booked now so if it's not right this time I may actually get banned.

Stu needs a ban for mentioning the word ban!!! I don't need a ban as I was only saying the word ban because of Stu who needs a ban!!!
So Jimmy can you please ban Stu for 14.3 hours??? That will show him.

nice one im free and would love to come play with DC :wub

I want to be in this one, applied for the last one but no one bothered their arse to email people saying they didn't get in!
:yawn:

Put me down for it but just out of politeness and common courtesy send either a pm or email to the people refused. :thumbsup:

I know if you're not part of the "click" you don't get in so I know I won't be in this one. I don't believe in arse kissing. :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumb down:

Dave, I've given you an infraction for no good reason, if Jimmy finds out I'm doing that again it may help you.

I`d also like to put my name down for this if there are spaces available please. 2 and 4WD if at all possible but one class if it lets more people race. I dont mind which !

Thanks

That's a sure way to help your entry...

Let's all just wait for the entry form to come out and take the invites from there (the key work is invite in this sentence) before this thread fills up with people asking to race.

I did fill in the form last year and no one emailed me back. I had to find out second hand from other people which from my point of view is disgusting.

I'm not popular with certain people who have an influence on what goes on. Like I said I refuse to kiss people's arses!

In my point of view the people that applied last year and didn't get in should get preference this year over the people that did. :thumbsup:

Im suprised these invites don't get sent out as proper invitation cards... that'd be ace.

dpacker, pack-it-in. There's no clique, but by being negative your just poking the hornets nest.

Banned Stu has banned me 2 times today, don't he know who I am???
I am sure he will be better at the invatations next year and I am sure I will be banned for saying this!!!!
BAN ME AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Luv you Stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!

Self pity much? Jeez.
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I shall be booking a Travelodge soon for this, starting to prey to the gods that I do get an entry again this year, and if not ill just sell me hotel rooms to someone else :)

'Provisionally' cannot wait :)

Posh bugger :p

You never tried "Camping it" ?, it suits some people..... :lol:

I camped this year, it were sweaty hot in the days yet bitter cold at night lol!

Loved it though, so many stories and tales to be heard for months after!

Will have to try and butter Jimmy up to reserve my fatty-boy t-shirt if I get in though lol :D

I camped this year, it were sweaty hot in the days yet bitter cold at night lol!

Loved it though, so many stories and tales to be heard for months after!

Will have to try and butter Jimmy up to reserve my fatty-boy t-shirt if I get in though lol :D

Hornets Nest.
 

Was there really any need for that? There was a feedback thread from the first event which could have been used to politely make suggestions about how things could be improved; this years invernational was the first of its kind and unfortunately there were always going to be some things that could have been better. I understand your point about receiving some form of confirmation whether the entry is successful or not and I'm sure this can be taken on board for future events.

The clique/arse kissing comments are pretty poor too. Granted there were bound to be some familiar faces - a team of dedicated dudes worked tirelessly to contribute towards the planning and (hopefully) smooth running of the event, so it would have been a bit mean not to allow them to race. However generally the aim was to accept entries from a wide range of drivers from different regions/countries, and of different racing abilities, and everyone who applied had a fair chance.

Constructive feedback is welcome, but posting slanderous comments is only going kick the morale of those who are working so hard to organise a kick-ass (not kiss-ass) event.

here here

Well said Vicky :thumbsup:

I put an entry in this year and somehow managed to get a place. Unfortunately, i had to decline it as something else came up that i could not get out of.

I will put an entry in again this year, especially as i'm a lot more into 10th now. Hopefully i'll get an Invite, so i can see what i missed this year. Oh i don't really know many people in 10th, so definitely not a Kiss Ass here...

:D

You going to race this year Vicky? Get that B4 out on the astro?

You submitted a form requesting an entry - you didn't enter the race - we do that for you when you're accepted.

It's a long process, it's all done by hand - why? Because we want a mix of drivers from overseas, top drivers and average drivers.
Over 250 entries and we even upped the number from I think 160 to 180 that we accepted.

I didn't race - I went (obviously) and it was an absolutely awesome event, racing or not.

I submitted details to get an entry at the neo race 2010, I didn't get a place either - and I never got anyone telling me I didn't get a place. I know I didn't get a place because.............. I didn't get one!

It's not possible to tell you you haven't got something you might well still get. If you get it too last minute and you aren't able to confirm and pay then it'll go to someone else. Sadly it takes time to work through. If we keep spaces open right until the last week for some top drivers we'd like to attend, or spaces open up because someone can't attend, then any driver that has submitted details can still get an entry.

It sounds to me like you want to tick a box that says 'If I don't get an entry immediately, strike my name off the list please' - I suggest you write that on the additional-info box next time?

I should just add that kissing arses does in fact work :lol:

In that case, good response Jimmy :wub

*smooches jimmys pale white arse cheeks* :D

what about bribary?:D

I am up for some of this!!!:D

We have found the biggest tit on the forum:D

Me too matey :thumbsup:

What happened did you look in the mirror first thing and realise that he was staring right back at you???? Pleb

I wasn't mocking the effort people made. I'm just bitterly disappointed at the lack of communication, unfortunately I work where I need to give notice so a swift email could have sufficed that's the bottom line.

I don't care if people don't like my views, however I know for a fact places were offered to people that didn't even submit an entry and that's a fact hence my blunt posts.

I wasn't slating the effort that people, it's hard organising any event.

Why dont you quit the moaning, go off and organise your own biiiiig race meeting, and then invite the people you want too?

Seriously, its ace fun :)

Well done for being so efficient. Work is work, and don't be suprised many others also have to be so efficient too.

This is toy car racing, do it for enjoyment and to find an escape from work. Do it cos you enjoy it, because everyone else is, if something bothers you let it go or deal with it, don't keep it in and let it turn you bitter and twisted 12months down the line and reduce your enjoyment otherwise you have no escape from stress!

As Jimmy pointed out we were still sending out invites to drivers who registered their interest a couple of days before the event.

When we got the sad news at the last min that some of the Euro-warriors could not get their ferry sorted we accepted some more entries during Friday practice.

The point is that we can't send out any mail saying 'you will not get a place' because until the clock for round 1 starts you may still get a run.

Ermm, not being funny mate, but isn't that the bit that makes it an invitational?

If they didn't do that, it'd just be a race, they'd have to rename it and everything!

Point taken, I rather spend quality time with my son than the crappy politics of toy car racing.

I used to enjoy it not so long ago. :cry: