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NeilD 04-07-2007 07:56 PM

Thats a bold statement.

Welshy40 04-07-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulRotheram (Post 48118)
Are you purposely ignoreing what people say? The ZX5 hasnt won 'the big titles' yet due to it has no backing........................................... ....:rolleyes:

Well look at Stu wood. He isnt sponsered by Kyosho or Tamiya, but instead by the host Oople (great choice on sponsering Stu) and he is doing really well. You dont need backing by the manufacturer just a driver that can drive it. But still the ZX5 car isnt that good in standard form. The quality is lacking.

Besides we have gone sideways here, back to the thread. Schumacher should make a new design and throw the old designs in the bin and come up with something new.

They have designed pedegree machines before and they can do it again without the aid of the top drivers. Besides Schumacher has Russell Williams and he is no dab hand at buggies so its not as though they dont have any one good to test the cars is it.

Schumacher have missed the race and fallen way behind, but now they should design something that will put them back up there.

DCM 04-07-2007 09:20 PM

what makes a good test and developement driver is different from a good racer..... the ability to give feedback, constructive criticism and suggestions to the design team is far more important than just 'being quick', and I am not Saying Russ isn't up to it either. Also, need more than one tester too.

I wouldn't like to see them going 'radical' on design though, I would rather a simple, well thought out car.

Welshy40 05-07-2007 03:38 PM

Well put DCM, simple, easy to work on and use.

Lee 05-07-2007 04:11 PM

Andy wallace does a hell of a lot of development for schuey.

TRUE LEGEND!!!

antnee 05-07-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 48152)
what makes a good test and developement driver is different from a good racer..... the ability to give feedback, constructive criticism and suggestions to the design team is far more important than just 'being quick',

yup, same is in most sports, in rowing even though im 16, i can coach fairly well but doing it myself is the downfall. Same goes with footie

MattW 09-07-2007 02:25 PM

I think Russ has done 2 off rd meetings in about 3-4 years - F2's at Kidderminster with borrowed cars, and F2's at Holbeach last year with his B4 and my Pred X10.

NeilD 09-07-2007 07:19 PM

Matt, will you be running this car?

foampervert 19-07-2007 11:54 AM

hhmm... i hope schumacher comes up with something...
 
i hope schumacher comes up with something for the world champs. already team losi is not committing a team there. it'll be a dang shame for schumacher to do the same.

i'm actually hoping against hopes that schumacher will re-release the bosscat works (the best handling off-roader, in my opinion) updated with modern plastics and materials, re-tuned to use new wheels and tires.


jimmy 19-07-2007 12:31 PM

you dreamer! :D

It would be nice to see them there but I don't know who they could send since they don't have an off road team? Maybe we'll see something after the worlds though.

PaulRotheram 19-07-2007 05:25 PM

They might have an offroad team after losi goes tits up.. get on the phone schumacher, its your move !!

jimmy 19-07-2007 05:29 PM

lol, very diplomatic! :D Whatever Losi are doing, they are certainly reducing their off road team so I guess there are drivers available. In time for the worlds though? nahhhh, surely they don't have a car that far advanced.?!:o

Lee 19-07-2007 05:32 PM

They would only have to make a couple though:confused:

I remember a few years ago when shuey brought on board 2 of the uk`s finest just for the worlds;)

foampervert 20-07-2007 06:55 AM

I have a vision...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 51083)
you dreamer! :D

It would be nice to see them there but I don't know who they could send since they don't have an off road team? Maybe we'll see something after the worlds though.

i can dream can't i? sniff...

seriously though, with some new bits like schuey's new mi3 suspension mounts, harder arms and lighter transmission, the bosscat has world domination potential!
WORLD DOMINATION!
car handles the rough stuff the best i think.
oh, and updated shocks... those old shocks have gotta go.

-alexander
p.s. then again, nah... schumacher's prolly need to ensure mi3's success before they can embark on a new racing project. so it's likely they won't have a team either.

HKP 20-07-2007 07:57 AM

Lol! Return of the Bosscat! That's optimistic isn't it? Great cars in 1992, but I think they'd be lot better off re-releasing the CAT 2000 or 3000 as they would be closer to the pace by far now.

vader 20-07-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foampervert (Post 51244)
seriously though, with some new bits like schuey's new mi3 suspension mounts, harder arms and lighter transmission, the bosscat has world domination potential!
WORLD DOMINATION!
car handles the rough stuff the best i think.
oh, and updated shocks... those old shocks have gotta go.

Clearly though it wouldn't be a match for a Laser ZXR/S.

BORMAC 20-07-2007 08:32 PM

I already race a Bosscat works and the car runs a 5.5 brushless! I just stripped it down for an inspection and the car hasnt bent or broken a thing! I love this car!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/tw028.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...c/P1040128.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...c/DSC02319.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...c/DSC02322.jpg

foampervert 26-07-2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BORMAC (Post 51379)
I already race a Bosscat works and the car runs a 5.5 brushless! I just stripped it down for an inspection and the car hasnt bent or broken a thing! I love this car!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/bormac/tw028.jpg


wow, a Bosscat AND a Brat!

lucky pluck!http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

peakman 26-07-2007 09:31 PM

There is now talk or rumor that horizon might be sending a team to the worlds...just have to wait and see....as far as there wheeler...the xx-4 driven by Jesse Robbers won the first main at the shootout last weekend by beating both ryan's, amezcua, easton, tebo, masami, truhe, matsuzaki and howart. Not too bad for a car design that is 10 years old. He also qualified third overall. That is the only reason, I think Losi hasn't come out with a new car yet because of the results they are getting with the xx-4 and xxx-4....but I guess we will have to wait and see.

dallasv8 10-08-2007 01:14 PM

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probably the wrong place for it but this hobby shop in aus still say they have fireblade evo's for sale.

Northy 10-08-2007 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peakman (Post 52416)
There is now talk or rumor that horizon might be sending a team to the worlds...just have to wait and see....as far as there wheeler...the xx-4 driven by Jesse Robbers won the first main at the shootout last weekend by beating both ryan's, amezcua, easton, tebo, masami, truhe, matsuzaki and howart. Not too bad for a car design that is 10 years old. He also qualified third overall. That is the only reason, I think Losi hasn't come out with a new car yet because of the results they are getting with the xx-4 and xxx-4....but I guess we will have to wait and see.


Rumour has it that Losi will NEVER design a new 4wd, and may stop even making parts for the current cars.

G

Nick Goodall 10-08-2007 02:00 PM

Shame if that is the case, it seems in the States that Nitro is still growing very fast and overtaking Electric completely now?

I still think the best compromise would be 1/8th buggy's but with 2 x Lipo's and big bad brushless motors - the sheer ease of running one would be so appealing yet they would still be as indestructable as the normal 1/8th buggy's! Best of both worlds :cool:

Twister 11-08-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 55289)
Rumour has it that Losi will NEVER design a new 4wd, and may stop even making parts for the current cars.

G

Never? One shuld never say never.. dang idid it :D too.. The xx-4 is is a very good car and with the racing history losi got they could not stop making off road cars.. that would be a shame.

bigred5765 11-08-2007 05:49 PM

remember losi is no more its horizon now

bert digler 11-08-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 55482)
remember losi is no more its horizon now

isnt that why gil losi jnr joined kyosho because he had virtually no say anymore:D

wouter.z 11-08-2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bert digler (Post 55486)
isnt that why gil losi jnr joined kyosho because he had virtually no say anymore:D

Just look at the new losi website, its all about RTR or mini crap.

i even heard that they dont produce the xx4 anymore.

losixxx 11-08-2007 08:40 PM

rtr and mini crap is what sell's and pay's the bills

the xx4 was rereleased on a limited edition just under 2 years ago so i think being limited 2 years is a fair time, plus they are continueing doing all spares for it

Twister 12-08-2007 01:22 PM

Rereleasing it was fine, but why stop awinner? The xx 4 is still winning more races than any other car so stop producing it makes no sense..

tyreman 13-08-2007 06:48 AM

Because the UK distributor hasn't even sold 15 this year, and Something like 200 worldwide were sold.
Now thats poor by anyones standards, when you consider the Losi 8ight has sold over 20,000 in this year alone and it's only been out for just over a year.

The car may be a winner but it' just not selling, because it's been out for so long now (nearly 11 years) pretty much everyone has either bought one new or off ebay.


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