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Medders 27-06-2007 06:35 PM

very cool !


I'll dust down the 1700 sce's again as well, although I seem to remember dumping in one heat last time :D

HKP 27-06-2007 06:52 PM

Arse.. York is a bit far for me at such short notice.. (I'm down in the South East corner with Welshy40). Could we maybe arrange more southerly one in addition to York?

Northy 27-06-2007 07:14 PM

We'll be running a championship at York over the winter.

G

flick5848 27-06-2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyF (Post 44420)
Does anybody know if you can still get the little rubber bands that hold the wing onto a Procat? I'm also going to need the rubber bands that hold the crash back system in place.

I imagine these are the same

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Schumacher-CAT...QQcmdZViewItem

AndyF 27-06-2007 07:59 PM

Cheers. If I get these I may be persuaded to come out of retirement after 17 years!:p

niggs98 27-06-2007 08:18 PM

it is a long way tom but im thinking of having a go for at least one of them with my new (1986 it was new anyway) toy and you cant get much more south east than me so im sure we can either arange a convoy or all bundle into a car to cut down on costs for all
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomstacey (Post 46895)
Arse.. York is a bit far for me at such short notice.. (I'm down in the South East corner with Welshy40). Could we maybe arrange more southerly one in addition to York?


terry.sc 27-06-2007 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyF (Post 46903)
Cheers. If I get these I may be persuaded to come out of retirement after 17 years!:p

The wing O rings are still sold by Schumacher http://www.racing-cars.com/search.as...&templateid=12

Oscar 27-06-2007 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medders (Post 46890)
14 turns if its a proper vintage motor :cool: turn

Jeez! when I gave up racing, you would dump on a 17 turn :o most guys in modified were running either 21's or 19's.

Does that mean I am officially old:rolleyes:

Medders 27-06-2007 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar (Post 46919)
Jeez! when I gave up racing, you would dump on a 17 turn :o most guys in modified were running either 21's or 19's.

Does that mean I am officially old:rolleyes:


Yep :D

GRIFF55 27-06-2007 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 46906)
it is a long way tom but im thinking of having a go for at least one of them with my new (1986 it was new anyway) toy and you cant get much more south east than me so im sure we can either arange a convoy or all bundle into a car to cut down on costs for all


Not the Nathan Ralls that used to go racing with dad and brother in a grey type 2 transporter, when i used to race for RCP with peter hex???
Colin Steele was my team mate back in those days. Ahh the good ol days!!!

HKP 28-06-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 46906)
it is a long way tom but im thinking of having a go for at least one of them with my new (1986 it was new anyway) toy and you cant get much more south east than me so im sure we can either arange a convoy or all bundle into a car to cut down on costs for all

Sounds awesome Nathan.. I'd be up for that, I guess Welshy40 would be too. Maybe we can discuss further via PM or a new topic? Anyone got a 7 seater car?? :eh?:

terry.sc 28-06-2007 11:19 AM

I might be up for the odd one (it's a 5 hour round trip for me!) and have some others that might be persuaded to come. As for what I can run, take your pick from Scorpion, Ultima, Ultima Pro, Frog, Meteor, Cougar, RC10, Hotshot, Optima, Optima Mid, Optima Mid Custom, Radiant, XL, XLS, Procat :D

trekkerkk 28-06-2007 11:28 AM

im going to come up for one off them,
make a weekend off it,
go up on the sat drive back down south sunday night,
all i need now is somthing to drive,


trekkker

niggs98 28-06-2007 04:32 PM

ello griff yes the one and the same mate although dont know ya name as it aint on ya profile lol.
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 46962)
Not the Nathan Ralls that used to go racing with dad and brother in a grey type 2 transporter, when i used to race for RCP with peter hex???
Colin Steele was my team mate back in those days. Ahh the good ol days!!!


ok tom pm will be sent soon for details

Sounds awesome Nathan.. I'd be up for that, I guess Welshy40 would be too. Maybe we can discuss further via PM or a new topic? Anyone got a 7 seater car??

Welshy40 28-06-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar (Post 46919)
Jeez! when I gave up racing, you would dump on a 17 turn :o most guys in modified were running either 21's or 19's.

Does that mean I am officially old:rolleyes:

I ran 1400scrs against scrcs and geared on 9to1 with a corrally 10d and made it until the last lap when i would dump big time, but still managed to finish third in the welsh champs so cant grumble. Good bet tho. hehehe. I may be tempted, when is it?

HKP 28-06-2007 05:07 PM

I know.. we'll all squeeze in your Ford Ka Welshy!! :D

Once we sort out the details we'll start a thread regarding carting all us southern shandys 'oop north for a race..

North V. South.. I know who my money's on ;)

Welshy40 28-06-2007 10:14 PM

hehehe well im more tempted on the worksop events at the mo but the york may come into it, but we need to have a serious chat next week tom on this when we meet up. Hell for you lot here should know that if you can make it at worksop then your set up here will be half decent on carpet.

Oscar 29-06-2007 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkerkk (Post 47010)
im going to come up for one off them,
make a weekend off it,
go up on the sat drive back down south sunday night,
all i need now is somthing to drive,


trekkker

Maybe I could arrange it so the Batley meeting was on a Sunday after the York one on the Saturday? Could be better for those travelling.
When do you expect to start the vintage series guys??

Col 29-06-2007 10:31 PM

First race last year started on 25th Nov. As far as I'm aware York club has not decided on it's calander for the winter yet.

AndyF 02-07-2007 05:25 PM

How is Batley Buggy Club doing? I notice they have no events scheduled on their website. When I used to go 17ish years ago we used to race every two weeks with std finals down to J and K and some modified finals too.

Medders 02-07-2007 05:33 PM

four of us turned up last time :(

and its under water :(

AndyF 02-07-2007 06:01 PM

oh.

Thats not good news. Is it buggy racing in general that as declined or just Batley.

Back in the day youngsters of 8 and 9 would turn up with hornets and frogs and race along side adults and teenagers with better 4wd cars. The cost was low(ish) because we all ran 27turn motors that would last 5 minutes on any old £10 battery pack. We had no special chargers or balancers??. A motor would last a couple of seasons with no maintainance and most people had a couple of sets of tyres that lasted a season.

I got out when the modified class became the std. Motors started to cost £50 instead of £10 - £15, with these you needed £50 battery packs and not just one to charge 5 times a meeting. All of sudden these same motors needed money spent every meeting to true the comm??? The kit prices had risen a little but it was the motors, batteries and ESC prices that turned it from a hobby for the young and young at heart into a specialised activity for the rich and dedicated.

I would like to race in the york vintage series this winter for nostalgic reasons. But with one battery pack and one motor!

Col 02-07-2007 07:11 PM

Last year there was a control motor for vintage. I think it was a 20t saturn? With these you could run most battery's and not worry about dumping. There is talk of another control motor for this years series - something a little hotter.
Most other things are still the same as when you left! Although if you shop about, you can still get stuff cheap.
Batley is usually a very well supported club (indoors especially) and 1/10th is probably the most popular class around.

Oscar 03-07-2007 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyF (Post 47649)
How is Batley Buggy Club doing? I notice they have no events scheduled on their website. When I used to go 17ish years ago we used to race every two weeks with std finals down to J and K and some modified finals too.

The club is still "OK" , however due to exceptional circumstances we have had very few club meetings over the last year or so.
Another contributing factor is that the calendar is so full with regional and national events, (which many key club members usually attend) it is difficult to schedule club days. We have had two of our few meetings this year cancelled due to adverse weather, which is once again rather less than helpful.
I do hope that later in the year once the larger events are over, we can get some more regular club days in, and I will organise a vintage/fun day if enough people are interested;)

AndyF 03-07-2007 12:07 PM

It is nice to hear that the club is still going. I guess like all sports the bar keeps getting raised. I don't remember spending time agonising over the shock oil i was using or adjusting the suspension every heat :-). It was enough to have tread on my tyres and a charged battery. Sounds like you guys are much more aware of the science and engineering behind the sport which is a good. Must be much more educational for the kids.

Do you still use 27MHz transmitters or did it all move to 40MHz. I think there was a move to 40MHz as I left the sport.

Col 03-07-2007 08:38 PM

The RTR kits come with 27mhz, but most aftermarket kits are 40mhz. Either can be used, but 40mhz is more popular. 2.4ghz (spektrum) is also becoming more popular

AndyF 04-07-2007 09:01 PM

2.4GHz, Better hope nobody as a wifi laptop on nearby!

trekkerkk 11-07-2007 05:24 PM

i see some people talking about bosscats are they vintage enough,
i cant quite remember what year they came out,
thanks

trekkker

super__dan 11-07-2007 05:25 PM

Not for york vintage, the procat only gets in by the skin of its bell (teeth).

trekkerkk 11-07-2007 05:30 PM

ok thanks,
start looking for an xls or procat then,

trekkker

trekkerkk 11-07-2007 05:40 PM

are all the belts the same from xls to bosscat,
the 2 rears and the 1 to the front,
as ive looked at the schumacher website and theyve got the boss cat belts,
thanks


trekkker

AndyF 24-07-2007 05:01 PM

You chaps have probably already seen this site. But if not and you are interested in old CATs then this is a cracking site

http://www.racing-cars.com/forum/for...sp?FID=14&PN=1

Welshy40 22-08-2007 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 41918)
It was pre-1990 last winter.

The rule was only enforced loosely though.

We basically wanted no 'modern' cats, no XX's or B2's - you get the idea.

It was left up to the concience of the individual if they wanted to run something that was borderline.

Ok so if thats the case then, my 1990 RC10 with MIP 4wd belt conversion should be legal as well in the 4wd. If so then im going to have a giggle with this, and see how badly it actually performs.

Stu 22-08-2007 04:35 PM

It's possible we can run two classes, 'Vintage' and 'Retro'.

'Vintage' - up to 1989 - 27t stock motors?
'Retro' - up to 1995 - 19t stock motors?

The 'retro' class can be there for those that want to run Pro/Boss-Cats, Lasers, XX's, Cougars, ......

Two classes will give chance to those travelling a distance to enter both to get more racing in.

No reason a pre-1990 car can't be run in 'retro' with a 19t motor.

It would be nice to get a couple of Sunday meetings in.

All depends on demand.

super__dan 22-08-2007 07:52 PM

I agree potentially on 2 classes but defo got to be 19t motors in both for me, they were just too slow with the stingers in and they were 21turns.

James, it's an RC10 chassis design so it's defo in for vintage. Do you really actually have one???

Stu 22-08-2007 09:06 PM

Im a bit concerned that some of the proper vintage stuff, like the 6-gear's or chain drive stuff will just be ripped to bits with the power of a modern 19t stock.
I'm no expert but I suspect that a good 27t stock will be faster than them things we ran last year.

Time to decide yet.

Welshy40 22-08-2007 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 57576)
I agree potentially on 2 classes but defo got to be 19t motors in both for me, they were just too slow with the stingers in and they were 21turns.

James, it's an RC10 chassis design so it's defo in for vintage. Do you really actually have one???

Dan,

Yup, MIP 4wd conversion on an RC10. Should be interesting to drive.

Oh yes one more thing, any reason why a 19t motor, as I was using a hell of a lot quicker in 89 and 90.

VintageRacer 22-08-2007 09:26 PM

The A finalists in 1987 Radio Race car series (modified class) were using 16 and 17 triples. All of them were racing CATs

super__dan 22-08-2007 09:32 PM

Stu, had a 19t in the mid which I ran after Batley regional. I can confirm it wasn't exactly fast, but no painfully slow like the stingers. Remember how much fun damo had when he used a 19t in the last round?

Of course this is my opinion and am happy to go with what you, G, jim etc decide

OldTimer 23-08-2007 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 57543)
It's possible we can run two classes, 'Vintage' and 'Retro'.

'Vintage' - up to 1989 - 27t stock motors?
'Retro' - up to 1995 - 19t stock motors?

If this is what motors are used i can see me coming upto york to have a play ;)


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