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matt 15-05-2019 10:11 PM

That's all I've found so far:)

On the roof 15-05-2019 10:51 PM

Hopefully be building this weekend then!! Got mine coming from mb not had a shipping email hopefully tomorrow 😁

matt 16-05-2019 06:37 AM

The weight of mine

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f783221dd6.jpg2019-05-16_07-31-13 by matt barton, on Flickr

Kevg57 16-05-2019 06:56 AM

Matt. it is disappointing that they knew about the rubbing of the L1 rear arms in low diff position from the KC rear end mod, which I have done, and all they did to rectify this was to warn people they would have to remove material off the arm because they don't want the expense of modifying the mould tool very slightly. :(:(:(

matt 16-05-2019 07:10 AM

Yes that my feeling to but I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong. Other than the piston looking a bit daft with a counter sunk screw head sticking out of them it's a really nice kit.

Kevg57 16-05-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 999075)
Yes that my feeling to but I'm sure someone will tell me I'm wrong. Other than the piston looking a bit daft with a counter sunk screw head sticking out of them it's a really nice kit.

One of the team drivers in our club had terrible trouble with the screws backing out of the shafts in his shocks, make sure the thread is immaculately clean and a dab of thread lock, but on a 2mm thread and amount of threadlock if it engages well is gonna be a bee ach to get out after, think I'd rather the circlips myself....

I would love the gearbox assy though to throw on my KC, but the L1 rear end has made the car drive awesome in pos 4 spec.

matt 16-05-2019 08:53 AM

Yes I degrease mine and left them for a bit to set before filling with oil. The gear box is nice and I may get one to fit to my kc to.

Kevg57 16-05-2019 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 999078)
Yes I degrease mine and left them for a bit to set before filling with oil. The gear box is nice and I may get one to fit to my kc to.

not gonna release one as an upgrade I already asked them, separate parts you might as well buy the full buggy lol.

matt 16-05-2019 09:18 AM

Yes but one new car I can get away with buying, a few upgrades for a car over time and I'm good with that. Also it doesn't have to be the entire rear end just the gear box.

Kevg57 16-05-2019 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 999081)
Yes but one new car I can get away with buying, a few upgrades for a car over time and I'm good with that. Also it doesn't have to be the entire rear end just the gear box.

Expensive way to build the gearbox atm, lots of little bits that you need to get, without adding it up fully I recon you'd be looking north of £100 easily.

matt 16-05-2019 10:00 AM

Yeah I think it will be around that but I've got a ball diff already so that offsets it s little as will be a wet car.

matt 16-05-2019 10:06 AM

Also if you want to save some more keep an eye out for a kd gearbox as most of the internals fit the laydown.

Kevg57 16-05-2019 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 999084)
Also if you want to save some more keep an eye out for a kd gearbox as most of the internals fit the laydown.

Just looked now and lots of the KC internals fit the Laydown but not looked at the screws and got to 135 quid :o

still tempting though.

matt 16-05-2019 10:26 AM

It's doable but it's down to you if you want to spend the money on it.

Spils77 17-05-2019 10:00 AM

Cougar Laydown arrived this morning :thumbsup:
So wish i had booked the day of work so i can start building.

lynx75 17-05-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spils77 (Post 999099)
Cougar Laydown arrived this morning :thumbsup:
So wish i had booked the day of work so i can start building.

share advice please

thanks

lynx75 17-05-2019 11:43 AM

I am waiting for the kit to arrives. In the meantime I am wondering why there is no chance to get sway bars mounted on the rear. I cannot say in the front but at least in the rear.

Any advice please?

thanks

Al3xis007 17-05-2019 11:48 AM

build tip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevg57 (Post 999076)
One of the team drivers in our club had terrible trouble with the screws backing out of the shafts in his shocks, make sure the thread is immaculately clean and a dab of thread lock, but on a 2mm thread and amount of threadlock if it engages well is gonna be a bee ach to get out after, think I'd rather the circlips myself.....

When building the car, start with the shock pistons, then they have time for the thread lock to set. apart from that, the car is a really good build

On the roof 17-05-2019 12:00 PM

Mine should be here In The next hour desks cleared ready to build

matt 17-05-2019 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al3xis007 (Post 999103)
When building the car, start with the shock pistons, then they have time for the thread lock to set. apart from that, the car is a really good build

This is very good advice.

Ross 17-05-2019 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynx75 (Post 999102)
I am waiting for the kit to arrives. In the meantime I am wondering why there is no chance to get sway bars mounted on the rear. I cannot say in the front but at least in the rear.

Any advice please?

thanks


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mark christopher 17-05-2019 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynx75 (Post 999102)
I am waiting for the kit to arrives. In the meantime I am wondering why there is no chance to get sway bars mounted on the rear. I cannot say in the front but at least in the rear.

Any advice please?

thanks

You can fit sway bars to the front and rear.

stormyyyy 18-05-2019 12:55 PM

As a relative newbie can someone tell me what the X brace conversion does handling wise and/or what type of track is it for.

edf84 18-05-2019 02:49 PM

My Cougar Laydown arrived at my home in the morning (in France).
Too late to drive tomorrow with on my regional FFVRC race. I'll ride it quietly in the week to try it next weekend.
In the meantime I will still use my old Cougar SV2 which still does the job well.

https://media.joomeo.com/medium/5cdfc867e2480.jpg

:):thumbsup:

mark christopher 18-05-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stormyyyy (Post 999115)
As a relative newbie can someone tell me what the X brace conversion does handling wise and/or what type of track is it for.

Attached screen shot from manual. Stiffens chassis flex and five more steering so prob more suited to high grip, but I have seen it used on rubberised cork floor

stormyyyy 19-05-2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 999123)
Attached screen shot from manual. Stiffens chassis flex and five more steering so prob more suited to high grip, but I have seen it used on rubberised cork floor

Cheers, never saw that in the manual, must remember to look through it cover to cover :lol:

badger5 19-05-2019 08:33 AM

I see that Orlowski didn’t run the laydown car in the some of the rounds of the latest EOS, did he go back to the KC for the wet conditions or is there a standup version of the Cougar being tested?

madmulc 19-05-2019 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger5 (Post 999129)
I see that Orlowski didn’t run the laydown car in the some of the rounds of the latest EOS, did he go back to the KC for the wet conditions or is there a standup version of the Cougar being tested?

He ran the KD in the first couple of rounds

On the roof 19-05-2019 01:28 PM

I'm getting a good amount of binding on the front camber mount with the captive ball joints.. the only way I can stop the binding is having the ball joint on the camber mount loose anyone else have this issue??

knighthawk 19-05-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by On the roof (Post 999134)
I'm getting a good amount of binding on the front camber mount with the captive ball joints.. the only way I can stop the binding is having the ball joint on the camber mount loose anyone else have this issue??

Have you used the ball stud washers

On the roof 19-05-2019 02:42 PM

Yeah as sheet shows the arms are OK level with the bulk head any lower than the bulk head they bind?

Wolvie 19-05-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by On the roof (Post 999136)
Yeah as sheet shows the arms are OK level with the bulk head any lower than the bulk head they bind?

Check it's the ballstud shims, they're made out of iron so use a magnet.

Ross 19-05-2019 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by On the roof (Post 999134)
I'm getting a good amount of binding on the front camber mount with the captive ball joints.. the only way I can stop the binding is having the ball joint on the camber mount loose anyone else have this issue??

Is it the ball joints or the arms?

Ive just built one for a mate. I found the arms are tight around the inner hinge pins, a moulding issue, and the "C" hubs are tight once the clip is fitted.

Navek668 19-05-2019 03:41 PM

I just got a craft knife into the recesses at the bulkhead where the arms fit in, just a little scrape and everything moved freely

On the roof 19-05-2019 04:02 PM

It's definitely the ball joints. as soon as they tighten they bind when they are loose it's all free
Basically if you sit the car down on the table no wheels on
The arms hinge up and down perfect
if the arms go any lower than the hinge pins it binds

I had already cleaned the bulk head out with a knife to fit the arms its not that

I'll finish the build and have another mess with it 👍🏻

cornishboy176 19-05-2019 09:41 PM

Has anyone else noticed the amount of play in the gearbox diff housings when its put together??

MervHill 19-05-2019 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cornishboy176 (Post 999152)
Has anyone else noticed the amount of play in the gearbox diff housings when its put together??

Play where Iain? Can’t say I noticed any excessive play anywhere in mine.

Spils77 20-05-2019 04:48 AM

Yes I have noticed some movement when the differential is fitted into the transmission housing. I have followed the instructions and used one shim on each side of the diff and fitted the bearings into the eccentric housings but once fitted to the transmission housing there is about 1.5 - 2mm of side ways movement.
I have two spare shims of the same size which were in a different pack, I don't know what these are for?

cornishboy176 20-05-2019 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MervHill (Post 999159)
Play where Iain? Can’t say I noticed any excessive play anywhere in mine.

It's only when using the gear diff, it seems the bearings are a bit loose on the gear diff, just put the ball diff in and its fine

Wolvie 20-05-2019 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spils77 (Post 999160)
Yes I have noticed some movement when the differential is fitted into the transmission housing. I have followed the instructions and used one shim on each side of the diff and fitted the bearings into the eccentric housings but once fitted to the transmission housing there is about 1.5 - 2mm of side ways movement.
I have two spare shims of the same size which were in a different pack, I don't know what these are for?

The manual addendum says to fit the 4 shims.


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