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DarkHawk 05-03-2017 08:02 PM

Do you run on high grip carpet?

Thomas B 05-03-2017 08:36 PM

Todays practice it was on medium/low grip carpet. Race next weekend will be on two different types of carpet. One of them is high grip and other one simular as today. So it will be exciting to find a good setup.

DarkHawk 05-03-2017 08:45 PM

I run on med/low grip carpet and just trying to get a good base set-up

dazza1 15-03-2017 11:20 PM

I'm looking forward to running this Thursday. It's been a while since I last used a schumacher buggy.

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/...psb1twxrgp.jpg

chrispattinson 16-03-2017 07:16 AM

Looks stunning Dazza.

dazza1 16-03-2017 09:41 AM

Thanks unfortunately I can't take credit for the paint work

bish 16-03-2017 06:00 PM

Did someone say pictures of KC?
 
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Sorry, can't help it. Here's mine. Waiting to find a race..

chrispattinson 29-03-2017 03:34 PM

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A few of the KCs at our club have a fan mounted above the motor using some spare lexan, simple and effective:

bish 29-03-2017 05:28 PM

Are you finding a consensus on which layout is working or down to individual driving style?

chrispattinson 29-03-2017 09:40 PM

I've found the setups posted on the Schumacher site perfect.
For Astro - Tom Yardys Telford setup. Pos4

http://www.racing-cars.com/images/Te...ford_print.pdf

Carpet - Orlowski Trencin setup. Pos2

http://www.racing-cars.com/images/Te...n_SK_print.pdf

I tried to play around with those setups as a Base.... and always ended up back at them. Very very good.

dazza1 03-04-2017 09:07 PM

I've just been looking for the kc to kd conversion kit and I can't find much info on it. Is it out yet ? I'm not saying I'm going to buy it I'm just interested to see a few pics.

mark christopher 03-04-2017 09:36 PM

U7137 Cougar KC to KD conversion Kit - Cougar KC

all i can say is it has all the needed parts, currently out of stock

matt 09-04-2017 08:37 AM

Just put my order in for a KC, has anyone found any must have upgrades?

Al3xis007 09-04-2017 08:44 AM

Extras
 
On both cars I changed the spur to an 80 but that's about it

bish 09-04-2017 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 970294)
I've found the setups posted on the Schumacher site perfect.
For Astro - Tom Yardys Telford setup. Pos4

http://www.racing-cars.com/images/Te...ford_print.pdf

Carpet - Orlowski Trencin setup. Pos2

http://www.racing-cars.com/images/Te...n_SK_print.pdf

I tried to play around with those setups as a Base.... and always ended up back at them. Very very good.

Cool, thanks Chris. I've ordered the KC-KD conversation but no idea what's in it. Anyone know if the KD ball diff can be converted to a KC ball diff with the pulley below?

https://www.discountrcstore.com/Schu...KC-p/u4997.htm

Yep, I'm tight but that's £50 i can be using for. Carbon chassis!

Dkfream 10-04-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 970924)
Just put my order in for a KC, has anyone found any must have upgrades?

Carbon chassis, car feels so much better along with using alloy side rails than using the alloy chassis, just give that bit flex needed, but depends what surface your racing on really, i race mainly on high grip EOS carpet and find the carbon chassis better

matt 10-04-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dkfream (Post 970961)
Carbon chassis, car feels so much better along with using alloy side rails than using the alloy chassis, just give that bit flex needed, but depends what surface your racing on really, i race mainly on high grip EOS carpet and find the carbon chassis better

Tat for that. I will be running on sandy astro.

CARB 17-04-2017 02:17 PM

KC / KD
 
Hi there, As the KC has been out a while, how are people getting in the the lack of side supports for the body shell and a method of keeping the dirt and water out if run on wet Astro, this post is for the KC and the KD as they share the same chassis.

I drive out side on Astro so am very interested in the KC on wet Astro, running two cars is not part of my plan if possible.

Cheers

bish 17-04-2017 03:45 PM

I use velcro strip along the chassis/stiffeners, but i don't run on sandy astro.

bish 17-04-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dazza1 (Post 970558)
I've just been looking for the kc to kd conversion kit and I can't find much info on it. Is it out yet ? I'm not saying I'm going to buy it I'm just interested to see a few pics.

dazza1, as attached, this is pretty much the kit. A complete gearbox (with slipper) and body shell. You also get thread lock and shock oil and greases for the gearbox/diff.

I thought that there would be springs and pistons as they are different between KC/KD.

It's cheaper that a whole new car and if you add to the KC, you have Mid, laydown and all the fwd options covered. Apart from motor rewire, i don't think it would take long to swap over from KC layout 4 to KD. Eight screws and motor fit.

mes 25-06-2017 05:39 AM

How have you been liking the KC since its release? Is it likely that a version including the carbon fibre chassis is around the corner, and what about durability? I am about to buy a new 2WD buggy, and every kit on my shortlist (KC, 22 4.0, B6, YZ-2) has other pros and cons. Please tell me what you like more and less about it vs the other cars!

shaun m 25-06-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mes (Post 974688)
How have you been liking the KC since its release? Is it likely that a version including the carbon fibre chassis is around the corner, and what about durability? I am about to buy a new 2WD buggy, and every kit on my shortlist (KC, 22 4.0, B6, YZ-2) has other pros and cons. Please tell me what you like more and less about it vs the other cars!

If you look in my signature I run shuey and may think I'm biased!!

But I love my Kc , I've had many other 2wds (yz2 , xb2) just come from Xray , and thought I was getting on with the Xray but I personally think the Kc is soo much easier to drive and for me as an average driver it's quicker too ..

mes 25-06-2017 07:41 PM

Sounds good, thanks! Do you regard any option parts other than springs as essential? Also, any spares except for suspension parts?

shaun m 25-06-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mes (Post 974715)
Sounds good, thanks! Do you regard any option parts other than springs as essential? Also, any spares except for suspension parts?

Hi , I have got the carbon chassis with sidepods and alloy caster blocks , but I don't think any of it is essential , spare wise I've bought spares but not used anything yet. It's a very good car out the box!

reelman_fishing 25-06-2017 08:06 PM

Its good strait out the box :thumbsup::thumbsup:

matt 25-06-2017 09:30 PM

Really enjoying mine. Only thing I have broke is one hub carrier that has been replaced with the ally versions. Very good out of the box with just a few springs needed. I've got a lot of the ally upgrades but they are mostly for a bit of bling.

bish 25-06-2017 11:23 PM

For what it's worth i just got the Carbon chassis. With everything else as per kit and a chunky Tekin RSX it weighs in race ready with transponder and chassis protector at 1496g with dart rears and stagger fronts. The carbon chassis is very cleverly cut with the longitudinal channels allowing twist whilst remaining longitudinally stiff.

Cougar is not getting much exposure in the US as the Losi/TLR and AE steamrollers are releasing laydown versions. With the proliferation of carpet/astro, the Yokomo/X-Ray seem to get first mention everywhere. Bizarre, as Orlowski won the EOS 2wd with a Cougar KC!

mes 26-06-2017 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bish (Post 974727)
For what it's worth i just got the Carbon chassis. With everything else as per kit and a chunky Tekin RSX it weighs in race ready with transponder and chassis protector at 1496g with dart rears and stagger fronts. The carbon chassis is very cleverly cut with the longitudinal channels allowing twist whilst remaining longitudinally stiff.

Cougar is not getting much exposure in the US as the Losi/TLR and AE steamrollers are releasing laydown versions. With the proliferation of carpet/astro, the Yokomo/X-Ray seem to get first mention everywhere. Bizarre, as Orlowski won the EOS 2wd with a Cougar KC!

I bet this is down to marketing. Among drivers in my region, Schumacher has been considered a real contender since the KF at the latest, but as you used to have hardly any dealers other than the distributor, they were a rare sight. As one of Germany's larger online shops has picked up Schumacher, this may be about to change. In the US, things may look similar, no top tier drivers, no support network that comes close to the domestic brands. It is not always the best kit that sells best... ;)
Although I am a Yokomo guy by heart, I am ready to give the KC a try, at least until the next version of the YZ-2 is around the corner. Who knows, maybe it can convince me to stay. Thank you, guys!

chris24jt 26-06-2017 06:36 AM

to add another voice to the above i havent done anything to my KC other than build it as per kit no upgrades and nothing broken so far - its much easier to drive than the KF2.

mr_timm 26-06-2017 09:55 PM

Wins
 
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Originally Posted by bish (Post 974727)
Bizarre, as Orlowski won the EOS 2wd with a Cougar KC!

Pretty sure he won the main part of the championship with the old car. It's what you can see on the tech shoots posted up on the EOS website.

Arguably he struggled more with he new car if you judge things by results.
Being objective he did have exams and distractions like that at the last couple of rounds - when he was driving the KC vs the old KF2.

I'd be interested to see if Orlowski goes after the clay titles that he has been interviewed as saying he'd like to pick up. And if he does whether he will switch from the motor placement that he was seen to be running and struggling with at Reedy to something more rearward. Ditto also switching to metal chassis instead of carbon which he usually is seen using.

mes 27-06-2017 05:53 AM

Many thanks for your input everyone! Michal Orlowski seemed to struggle a bit at the eos in Andernach, but at the end of the day, his and Oliver Speith's cars looked really good. The level of competition has become insane, but for me as an average driver who intends to run a 13.5 most of the time, the box stock kit seems to be a great package. I can't think of any other reasonably priced kit that comes with as many options and is compatible with preglued tyres. I think I am getting lazy in my old days... :)

Edit: Oh well, I could not help it and bought another YZ-2. Thank you again everyone nonetheless, I really appreciate it!


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